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Barefootsies 08-05-2010 09:06 AM

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Originally Posted by baddog (Post 17391927)
No SEO needs an entire C. Mailers must be your clientele.

Hmm... you again with your remarks. I guess my previous assessment of you was wrong.

Quote:

Originally Posted by rowan (Post 17391955)
An entire class C is 256 IPs, not 8...

Did I use the word 'entire'? Didn't think so.

Carry on.
:pimp

baddog 08-05-2010 09:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Barefootsies (Post 17391909)
I can sell you an entire class c for $4.00, which is 8IP/5 usable,

Quote:

Originally Posted by Barefootsies (Post 17391964)


Did I use the word 'entire'? Didn't think so.

Carry on.
:pimp

Looks like you did to me too.

Barefootsies 08-05-2010 09:18 AM

You're right. Messed that up when I did the original edit re-typing that paragraph. That's what I get for trying to talk on phone, answer IM and post all at the same time. Whoops.

However, common sense as provided, "8IP/5 usable', would have clued most people not trying to argue about petty crap that I what I meant was, an entirely DIFFERENT c-class. No one is going to give you 256 IP's for $4.00.

My bad on missing that with the edit. Apologies to rowan. Carry on.

Varius 08-05-2010 09:52 AM

As said above, masking your footprints is the single most important element in interlinking strategies. The footprint includes: host location, IP, site code, content, registrar, nameservers, DNS record modification dates, domain transfer history, whois information and more.

SEO hosting can help with a few of those, but you still need to handle the rest of the factors if you want to succeed.

Another free tip is for interlinking networks, pay close attention to link velocity/acceleration. You want things to seem as natural as possible, so the following throws up a flag to google:

- Many new links all appearing at once
- Links almost all using the same keyword anchor text
- No links dropping
- All links coming to the same/main page of the domain

What you want to do, is:

- Links added gradually
- Links dropped gradually (of course, always keep a positive link acceleration pace)
- Mix up / rotate anchor texts, throwing in some non-relevant or domain name (as would naturally happen)
- Mix linking to main pages and deep links

Enjoy :thumbsup

signupdamnit 08-05-2010 10:13 AM

I think you're better off doing it yourself. Think about it. If you use a "SEO host" then it's likely they attract a certain clientèle who tends to do certain things which MAY be seen badly by Google. Consider who your neighbors are within that class C.

For most it isn't even something to worry about in the first place. And indeed it's often better to keep it organic. Far less chance of being banned.

marketsmart 08-05-2010 10:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Varius (Post 17392101)
As said above, masking your footprints is the single most important element in interlinking strategies. The footprint includes: host location, IP, site code, content, registrar, nameservers, DNS record modification dates, domain transfer history, whois information and more.

SEO hosting can help with a few of those, but you still need to handle the rest of the factors if you want to succeed.

Another free tip is for interlinking networks, pay close attention to link velocity/acceleration. You want things to seem as natural as possible, so the following throws up a flag to google:

- Many new links all appearing at once
- Links almost all using the same keyword anchor text
- No links dropping
- All links coming to the same/main page of the domain

What you want to do, is:

- Links added gradually
- Links dropped gradually (of course, always keep a positive link acceleration pace)
- Mix up / rotate anchor texts, throwing in some non-relevant or domain name (as would naturally happen)
- Mix linking to main pages and deep links

Enjoy :thumbsup



all correct except for mentioning that linking any sites internally that are less than pr4/5 is a waste of time now..

gaming google is getting harder... better off just putting in the work... :2 cents:

longtails are still kicking ass even after the mayday update..

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Varius 08-05-2010 10:35 AM

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Originally Posted by marketsmart (Post 17392199)
longtails are still kicking ass even after the mayday update..

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Agree, I would much rather have rank for 5,000 phrases getting 10 uniques each a day than a single top-ranking that gets 50,000 uniques a day.

AliGbone 08-05-2010 11:30 AM

total snake oil

rollinthunder 08-05-2010 12:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by baddog (Post 17391927)
No SEO needs an entire C. Mailers must be your clientele.

You really are a tool, baddog. Just cause he's offering something for half the price you do and actually knows what he is talking about, you bash him.:321GFY

Shut up and go away already...:2 cents:

Go sell some more free $500 SEO reports to newbies. Asshole.

Grapesoda 08-05-2010 12:38 PM

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Originally Posted by CunningStunt (Post 17391147)
Do me a favour, never write in my threads again. You are obviously totally and utterly fucking clueless.


nope, that would be me :thumbsup

harvey 08-05-2010 12:51 PM

http://www.recipeapart.com/wp-conten...ard-google.jpg


PS: can I be trashed/insulted? I feel so left out :(

CunningStunt 08-05-2010 02:20 PM

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Originally Posted by harvey (Post 17392668)
http://www.recipeapart.com/wp-conten...ard-google.jpg

PS: can I be trashed/insulted? I feel so left out :(

Not by me. I've never had any problems with anything you've ever said.

StarkReality 08-05-2010 02:35 PM

To the original question: The problem is certainly the way these packages are promoted, since it takes ALOT more than just a bunch of dedicated and different class C IPs to mask a network properly, totally agreed.

Ironically, it fits the whole sheme SEO services are often sold to people. Shaving affiliates in adult looks like a childish prank compared to what some self proclaimed SEO agencies do to their customers...

Sabby 08-05-2010 02:39 PM

hmmm... I dont get it.

Sabby:)

CunningStunt 08-05-2010 03:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Sabby (Post 17392991)
hmmm... I dont get it.

Sabby:)

Most people don't, that's why they get fleeced, and it annoys me.

Great avatar, I want to have a play.

CunningStunt 08-05-2010 04:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Barefootsies (Post 17391909)
If other hosting companies out there are charging you insane prices for this stuff, then I understand your gripe. But when I can provide you the same or better, for less than you are currently paying, then I do not see the point of the banter.

Agreed.

Do some research yourself, it's rife in this industry.

Relentless 08-05-2010 04:26 PM

Varius should charge people $100.00 each just to be able to read his posts.
They are worth more than most consultants will teach you for 5K :2 cents:

CunningStunt 08-05-2010 04:29 PM

Yes, he's on the ball.

CunningStunt 08-05-2010 11:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by StarkReality (Post 17392977)
Ironically, it fits the whole sheme SEO services are often sold to people. Shaving affiliates in adult looks like a childish prank compared to what some self proclaimed SEO agencies do to their customers...

I agree.

In theory, SEO agencies shouldn't even exist. If they are so good at what they do, why not just do it for themselves like myself and most other guys do? Or do they need some kind of rod for their back, or psychological crutch or need to be loved? LOL.

FetishWeb 08-06-2010 02:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by StarkReality (Post 17392977)
Ironically, it fits the whole sheme SEO services are often sold to people. Shaving affiliates in adult looks like a childish prank compared to what some self proclaimed SEO agencies do to their customers...



Most children could see the difference between criminal fraud (shaving) and clowns willingly handing over their money to self-described SEO experts.

Barefootsies 08-06-2010 02:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Relentless (Post 17393329)
Varius should charge people $100.00 each just to be able to read his posts.
They are worth more than most consultants will teach you for 5K :2 cents:

He's a smart guy. That's for sure.
:thumbsup


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