Robbie, nor anyone else, needs to 'defend' me. I appreciate them pointing out the facts and bringing some sanity to threads. But I handle myself just fine.

We have seen what happens when even others working with the same clients have piped up verifying this person is real, and not me....whether for content, design, etc.. what happens? They are attacked as well. When other clients have chimed in the thread, they are all attacked and accused of being fake nicks.

So for them it's not worth it to say anything, and those who contact me prior referencing the thread I tell them to stay out of it. It's a lose-lose. If all the people I worked with came into a thread, they would all just be called fake nicks or my 'butt buddies'.

Few have the patience, and I do not blame them. I am used to it after years of DJ.

Who said I didn't? It's the arrogance of the spammer that grates me.

You didn't answer, would you still defend him today?

If you answered like this every time I wouldn't be in this thread. Just saying.

black widow, errrr woops I mean barefootsies - loves this stuff

Id rather be called bf's buttbuddy then be in the group of anon broke trolls who keep thinking their opinion is worth a shit lol.

At least we are making money in this biz, while you guys sit at home wondering why your internet date isnt showing up :)

im barefootsies too btw.

That's amusing considering the actual FACTS compared to your 'interpretations' or perceptions of events. Seems like you can't simply can't come to terms with your own agenda and hatred.
:2 cents:

Broke ass buttbuddy. Nice !!!

12 Clicks? I don't remember "defending" him really. But I may have.

I like Ron just fine. And I never understood why people were attacking his business model.

Hell, I gotta be honest with you. I don't understand why anybody would try to ruin another person's business. It's how they feed their family. It just makes no sense to me, and when I see it I kinda get defensive over it.

Probably shouldn't though. But I just can't understand it.

It's one thing to use GFY to air a grievance over something to do with somebody you actually do business with.

But to me, all these threads with people attacking other people's business...and the people doing the attacking having NO business dealings with the attacked person is just insane.

You know what I mean?

I could understand it if you and I had a business deal, I did something to fuck you over, and you come to GFY to cause me grief and force me to do the right thing.

I can't understand it if you were to look at my business, decide from afar that you just don't like it. And then play "Capt. Save-A-Ho" by making it a crusade to hurt me and cost me money.

For the life of me, that's what these kinds of threads look like to me. And the majority of the guys doing it are folks who won't tell what THEY do or what their websites are or how they conduct business.

Just wrong on a lot of levels to me.

Ball busting is one thing. But when you go after a man's livelihood it crosses the line in my eyes.

For instance, if I came after you and tried to hurt your business on GFY. I could potentially cost you some money. And if that happened....I have no idea how your finances are and how close you are each month in meeting your financial responsibilities. Do you have a family member that you are having to help out? Is your wife very sick with high medical costs? Are you struggling with a high mortgage?

I don't know. But my b.s. on GFY might cost you a few hundred bucks that could be the difference between keeping your head above water and drowning.

That's the kind of thing that I don't think people consider when they do this to other people with absolutely no reason other than they don't "like" him.

No, I wrote it before you posted your explanation above.

Like I said, if you had answered like that before, even once, I wouldn't be here at all :2 cents:

You're going to see whatever you want to see. Believe whatever you want to believe.

Just like thinking testimonial dude is me. Despite people verifying it isn't.
:2 cents:

Yes. :2 cents:

Edit: 50 babies crying over BF's testimonials.

What am I seeing? I just extended a hand.

You wrote a sensible post before, that is good enough for me. Would have been all along :2 cents:

:1orglaugh

http://www.chicagonow.com/blogs/geek...x270-72909.jpg

http://i223.photobucket.com/albums/d...8media0047.jpg

Robbie, I won't go into the other story, when business models involve being in bed with the industries biggest thieves they deserve to be messed with.

I agree with the rest, but BF should understand even on the internet it isn't about the product it is all about people.

http://18hub.com/images/kid-crying.jpg

I agree. I think BF could make more money if he didn't call people "champ", "chief", and "toots"
But that's none of my business.

And speaking of it being about people...it looks like when he did get a person who was impressed by what he offered and the follow up support he has provided...he got blasted with both barrels by people for absolutely no reason.

One things for sure, he tries to keep up a brave front...which is exactly what he should do in the face of all the attack threads. But my feeling is he would make a bit more money and have a better life if the attack threads didn't exist.

I could be wrong. But in my humble opinion, when people go after him for absolutely no reason like they did in that testimonial thread they are hurting his money.
That would make me VERY defensive and in the real world I'd hurt somebody physically over my money.

I think a lot of those guys get caught up in the board and don't think about the real life consequences that they are causing barefootsies. Or maybe they do and are just mean spirited people who like hurting people from behind a keyboard.

Either way, it isn't right.

Haven't you already been warned for stirring the pot? You are well overdue for a ban. :2 cents:

Fair enough

Slappin Fish you're a pretty cool guy. I want to visit Thailand so bad I can't stand it. If I ever get there me, you, and Dirty White Boy are going on a 3 day binge.

Now that will be a party :1orglaugh

We'll get wasted and troll the fuck out of barefootsies! :1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

Grow up people

don't feed the hate, share the love :(

65 fucktards giving another fucktard attention.

:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh :1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

Stirring the pot? I am just pointing this out to Eric as a help. You know Eric can't see everythings going on...so if someone breaks the rules I gladly help out to make GFY a better community :thumbsup

It's not my fault Eric made the rule about excessive sig spamming is it? :Oh crap

Robbie
Jason
Helix
Stinkyfingerz
Benn626 and the "testimonial guy" seems to be GFY bodyguards on GFY nowdays. :1orglaugh:1orglaugh

I'm pretty sure that even Stevie Wonder would have a hard time not seeing all the barefootsies hate threads, but thank God you made another one! :1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

Why do you keep lumping me into this? Oh because I think your excessive hate spewing towards BF is not only fueling the hate for you, but also not helping the situation AT ALL?

Best advice in this thread:

because you defend bf 24/7.

Priceless

There ya are! was just waiting for you!


But for the record to Jason and Robbie..this is not a hate thread in any way. I am just seekings Eric's attention about some people clearly NOT care about Eric's rules on GFY.

BF has had warnings about the exact same issue before..not sure why he doesnt learn..... :Oh crap

Who said I was defending him? Have you seen me defend him? I'm just saying you guys riding his dick every second of the day is useless and you need to find something more productive to do.

I am beginning to think that all of this is a mass conspiracy created by Barefootsies. I cannot for the life of me figure out any other reason for all of the threads, LOL.

This thread=Clusterfuck.

Robbie, you're obviously a rational, empathetic person who can actually - gasp! - put yourself in someone else's shoes and make allowances. These trolls who try and destroy someone's livlihood don't give two fucks about anyone but themselves because, to them, none of this is 'real". It's just a board, it's fun time for them, it's all a virtual game. But you are right, of course - people on GFY who do actual business have an actual reason to come and "play" here, other than their own inadequacies, self-loathing, boredom or worse.

There's no talking sense to them, or trying to be reasonable. They are incapable of normal human functionality. They are trolls, and sad, pathetic humans that I actually feel sorry for. So the way i cut these trolls some slack - because I want to be consistent here in my opinions about board nicknames - is to:

1. Laugh at them
2. Stay out of their way because I have real, concrete things I have to do with my life and business. What a concept.

I'll tell ya tho: what's great about these BF-bashing threads is I really don't have to read them anymore, just scroll past the avatars and see all the usual, sad suspects and chuckle, chuckle away.

And you know that notion, just crossed my mind! :thumbsup He is brilliant at exposure!

Just a tip
here is BF his list with ICQ buddies, as he calls them Industry People.
http://vicevalley.com/references.html
Just make sure you avoid answering posts of one of those people on his list

Eric also made rules about

1. Excessive Harassment. Inciting Harassment.
2. Personal Attacks.
3. Accusations without Proof.

So feel free to make a thread about yourself, and recommend to Eric you get a 60 day ban until you learn to play well with others, or act like an adult. Which ever comes first. You won't be missed.
:2 cents:

A list of people grown up, FULL TIME, industry professionals that have been around for many years serving the needs of the community. Which is more than I can say for many around here.
:thumbsup