Fitty Internext pics,
the FUBAR Ones will be up by wed :thumbsup

I can say I'm glad I didnt go and I used to love the florida show

Damn the way y'all are describing it maybe they should rename the show: "Geek Fest"
lol

What a let-down. My first show in five years and I get this? Very sad. The only traditional style expo booths were fucking penis enlargement pills and dildos. It wasn't a total waste because the project I'm involved in has traffic that can be monetized in that way but DAMN! I really thought we were missing something.

The regulars had the cabanas but it was hotter than the surface of the sun this year so they sat bored most of the time. Shame...FL show was my favorite for many years.

Are any shows like the old days (not the GOOD old days, but the 2002-2006 days at least)?

It was good to finally put a face to the name when I ran into Mr Frisky.

http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-..._3212662_n.jpg

Lie... I was there..

I had sex with this man.

Your just being jelous.


Sabby:)

Im sorry thos was just a funny pic... and so not me...



Sabby:)

:thumbsup

In that post you just quoted it makes a point:
"A smaller, more intimate show allows you to meet with everyone you need to, while being able to focus on the ones you want to."

My problem with that is this: There won't be as many people to do business with BECAUSE it's smaller.

I have a quick question for everybody that should end the debate:

How many affiliates were there, how many actual owners were there?

If the answer is no affiliates and a half dozen owners...then it was TOO damn "small and intimate" for the majority of this industry to do biz there.

It's nice that we've heard the billing companies and "join brokers" and such had a great show.

But the rest of us who do many different things and have lots of different facets to our business like I do need a big ass show to reach more than just the folks on the outer fringe of porn.

I need to rub elbows with lots of folks who are in the game of selling porn. Not just a couple of them and then a show full of billers and accountants. That's where the shows are falling short in my opinion. And have been for quite a few years now.

Anyway, can somebody who was there give an honest answer to that question: Let me know an estimated number based on who you saw there of affiliates and paysite owners.

Did you see 3 paysite owners? 2 affiliates? Or was the place crawling with them?

I can tell you that back when there were only a couple of shows a year...the late 90's and early part of this decade, you could throw a rock in any direction and hit the owner of a big program and he would be surrounded by affiliates. I'm thinking the Sands Expo center at the turn of the decade.

I know that ain't gonna happen again...but I had the same phenomenon when I went to the Amsterdam show in 2007
Owners and affiliates everywhere. And money being made with deals struck in bars, and in my hotel room with party favors and fucking going on too! lol

So what was the number of affiliates and what was the number of owners at this show?

Sounds like you needed to aim anyways to avoid hitting the affiliates.

I sent you a email today regarding the meeting we had. hope to hear from you soon.

robbie if you spent the time you spend here arguing with morons on building your sites and shit, you'd be bigger than manwin. god man, stop wasting your life.

I was just about to post something to that effect

Stop whining about shows you didn't even attend

I wasn't "Whining" I was asking about the show. And commenting that there are TOO DAMN MANY SHOWS which dilutes the value of each show.

If you thought the show was just great the way it is and don't see anything wrong...then great! Sounds like everything is just fine for whatever you do in this business.
I was asking if there were actually any affiliates and paysite owners in attendance in enough numbers to do business OTHER than just billers and fringe people.

So far nobody has been able to say if there were 5 affiliates there, 500 affiliates there, or zero affiliates there.

Guess that means I'm "whining" about the show. And the only reason I wasn't there is because 90% of the people I needed to see told me in advance that they wouldn't be there. :(

No need to name call. They aren't "morons" I was just kinda wondering if the show turned out the way it was predicted to. And to make my observation that we need less shows with more value.

I'll STFU now because instead of a discussion...I'm accidentally pissing off the people who did spend their money and time to be there. And I didn't really mean to do that.

I know that YES you can get something out of EVERY show. You really can. And I know the folks who went did the best they could to get an ROI out of it.

I was just being Capt. Obvious and saying that IF you only had one or two shows a year...then EVERYBODY would be there and give you more opportunity to do good business and not spread your resources out over a dozen shows.

Sorry for any misunderstanding. :)

It doesn't seem that long ago that some people were complaining that there were to many "not big enough" affiliates at shows :)