Lawyers made it easy to divorce, now they look at this as added income for gay divorce.

so like William Shakespeare said, kill all the lawyers

I don't believe in any sanctity in marriage anymore, but that's me, I do believe that the people that are married, they have a say in it's meaning and weather a group of people can change the meaning of that word or title. It's just about the gay community beating up the straights for the sake of a title

like house wives being called domestic engineers
When I built elevators, we called ourselves vertical transportation engineers
As a bartender, I was a Master Mixologist
A waitress is now a server
An Airline stewardess is a flight attendant

Yet the guy that serves you coffee for $3 a cup is a Barista

Some people want to change the title to fit them, others, more of them, want it to keep it the way it is

If the the pillow-biters want to abuse each other's colons, so be it.

But calling that sort of nonsense a marriage is a bit of a stretch, don't you think?

The whole issue isn't exactly worth losing any sleep over though.

Well said!

Is there such a thing as a civil union with same benefits? there isn't
Why shouldn't gays have the same rights, regardless of the stupid title associated with it?
Why shouldn't they be allowed hospital visits and death benefits?

Hell, even my fiancee and I'd rather our union be called a civil union rather than marriage....but regardless of what we call it, we will still receive benefits from that our gay friends would not...

That's mighty bigoted of you. lol

But I suppose that if you were a lesbian (we'll keep this about women so as not to offend your delicate sensibilities) and the girl you have lived with and loved for 20 years and shared a home with...suddenly became very ill. Or was in a horrible car accident. And had to be put in the hospital and was near death...
And then you came to see the love of your life and was told you CAN'T because you aren't "family"

Well while the person you have shared your life lies in a room that you aren't allowed to go into and dies...you might be a little bit pissed about that.

then that needs to be changed, not the title, if the gay community is truthful in why they want this, for equal rights, then having a civil union with the same rights as a marriage would be agreeable to them. And I'm all for them having those rights, but what about the rights of the 7 million voters that don't want to change the meaning of the title?

They want the title, not the rights and until I see that they would be happy with the rights, I will not be convinced otherwise

a civil union with the same rights as a marriage would cover that

The amount of effort they've launched in "defending their title" is just idiotic.


It's just another fucking label in a long list of labels. Anyone that gets attached to a label or is using one to define themselves or justify their self-worth (reason for living), then they've got much deeper problems than a couple of gay people getting "married".


Keep your labels. I reject them.

I'll chalk this up to you not hanging out with any gay people...I'm friends with some very outspoken gay rights advocates and that is exactly what many of them are doing...wanting the rights...the reason they have to use that title is there is not other title available for that...


I love how a lot of right wingers (not you specifically, but many) want the government out of their lives, but want it in the lives of gay people....they complain about gays ramming their views down there throats, but why is it ok for heteros to ram their lifestyle down the throats of gays? For the record, I don't care if you answer this question or not, it's not directed right at you, but rather a rhetorical question...

If 2 people of the same sex want to get married,all the power to them.it's nobodies business but their own

marriage in general should be outlawed.

Religion is all a bit of a joke anyway and marriage is in the eyes of God, how come the ancient Greeks used to have a male / male relationship before having a male / female one ? and some still kept the male / male relationship up even after so called marriage...

As for Pakistanis and Arabs hell the one's I have met don't give a shit what they shag, there may well be exceptions to rule, but just speaking as I find and not being raciest here at all...

I just see all things covered in hypocrisy.... same sex marriage what's the big deal all it is, is a bit of paper at the end of the day now anyway, live with the same person for a while at least in the UK you have the same rights as if you were married...

I think there is much more globally important things at stake here than governments being concerned about who the fuck marries who... Live and let live, hell with all this political correctness bullshit in the past 5 years or so are the government's not guilty of being politically incorrect themselves for not allowing same sex marriage ?

It's not a title...it's a word.

who cares, let them marry and be miserable like the rest of us :1orglaugh

That's your opinion about the title, some, 7 million think differently
I've been around plenty of gay people, I have an old friend that I have known for almost 30 years and she's gay.
Point being, if it's just about rights, then change the rights included with having a civil union, this not only satisfies what the gay community is asking for, but it shows respect for what others believe. Isn't respect something they want too?

You have never asked if someone is married? People get the title of married when they are married, it's on your tax form

married and bored, single and lonely - Chris Rock

I'm for it. Marriage is pretty much a joke now-a-days. What is it with people getting married 2,3,4 fucking times?? Since they are changing the law, they should throw in there you get one chance at marriage, if it fails, tuff shit. Maybe people who decide to get married after knowing someone only 3 weeks might think it through a little bit.

Yep. That's my opinion. And I don't give a fuck what 7 million other people think. (about anything)

and apparently, the court doesn't either

It's a word and no one owns it. Some people try to make it "theirs"...but really it belongs to everyone...it's not a title. There aren't quota's on it. It's a word that describes a relationship.

If you want a "title" pronounce" yourself the Queen of Sheba. Now that's a title.

Good for them. (I don't really care what the court thinks either though) (about anything)

well approx 7 million Muslims want to kill you.... might wanna give a fuck about that :2 cents:

why fucking care? let people get happy the way they wannit :2 cents:

and why pray tell should I give a fuck about that?

Maybe you pronouce yourself as the Queen of Sheba, but I don't

why do you call a married woman Mrs and a single woman Miss?
it puts someone in a different group, like "all the married people"

what kind of Bull Shit is that?
you think that there are 7 million extremist out there? Most Muslims are very peaceful people

Religion is a joke to you maybe. Atheism is a joke to me. Let's believe in people! And the ancient Greeks and other civilizations married women, while having sex with men, so your example isn't even applicable.


So take a civil partnership and stop bitching about being recognized as a "married couple".

It's a word that happened to describe a heterosexual relationship for thousands of years, with REALLY NOTABLE exceptions. Try again.

And ignore Amputate's simple minded isolationist attitude. "If it doesn't involve me I don't care!!!"

You got a problem with isolationists?

I thought I was pretty clear on that...

Just double-checking.

:2 cents::2 cents:

I feel homosexuality is wrong, but I'm not a 'gay basher' nor am I going to go out there and tell other people how to live their lives. I know gay people and have never once said negative comments towards them about their lifestyle. What they do behind closed doors is their fucking business, as long as they don't do that shit around me; I'm neither for or against it.

Someone will still call you a bigot.

I feel religion is wrong, but gay people don't knock on my front door on Sunday while I'm eating dinner. Mormons & christians do. Hence, the new sign out front: "No Jesus Freaks. Insurance Solicitors Welcome."

against... marriage is by definition between a man and woman, and also religious.

I'm for gay marriage, but whenever I see gay couples with children, I always feel sorry for the children. Although gay couples would argue otherwise, I believe they raise their children in an environment which influences and confuses the child's biological instinctive sexual preference.

Funny how you equate all religious people to "jesus freaks". Man I'm glad I'm not a dumb atheist.

I'm glad you aren't either. We have a rule about only letting in intelligent thinkers, not fairy tale worshippers.

Nothing about you says "intelligent" or "thinker" so I'm glad I'm not in the dumb atheist group.

I'm glad you aren't either.

Deja vu.