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Brent 3dSexCash 08-17-2010 09:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Half man, Half Amazing (Post 17423357)
Looking at that pic of the diltron, i'm not getting it, it's not stablized in any way, it just lays there. and the hook used to connect it, well that will cause a whole lot of jerking around. Is that your final version?

It isnt the best picture and I will need to get some more uploaded soon. It is a lot more stable than it looks there.

If you are interested in seeing it in action on webcamclub, shoot me an email I will get you a demo setup, so you can get a better feel for it.

chronig 08-17-2010 09:57 PM

pretty basic flaw in vsex system... using your mouse instead of a fleshlight... I'd assume most people masturbate with the same hand they use their mouse with! That is... unless they practice "The Stranger"

Half man, Half Amazing 08-17-2010 10:09 PM

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Originally Posted by chronig (Post 17423368)
pretty basic flaw in vsex system... using your mouse instead of a fleshlight... I'd assume most people masturbate with the same hand they use their mouse with! That is... unless they practice "The Stranger"

:1orglaugh Their system is up, running and making money. I don't see it quite like you do.

Brent 3dSexCash 08-17-2010 10:10 PM

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Originally Posted by chronig (Post 17423368)
pretty basic flaw in vsex system... using your mouse instead of a fleshlight... I'd assume most people masturbate with the same hand they use their mouse with! That is... unless they practice "The Stranger"

Definitely. That was something we had think about when making the device work with games like 3d-sexgames.com and the Thrixxx line of 3d adult games. Once the device is active, you don't want to be messing around with the mouse.

Going to be interesting to see what happens in this industry in the next few years...

chronig 08-17-2010 10:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Half man, Half Amazing (Post 17423384)
:1orglaugh Their system is up, running and making money. I don't see it quite like you do.

Well what the shit is it that you don't see? :uhoh

What I'm saying makes sense.... flawed systems can still make money wise guy...

Brent 3dSexCash 08-17-2010 10:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Half man, Half Amazing (Post 17423384)
:1orglaugh Their system is up, running and making money. I don't see it quite like you do.


There is no doubt in my mind they will make a killing with their current model.

chronig 08-17-2010 10:15 PM

The plus side of vsex is that you don't need to buy a device and wait for it to arrive before playing... maybe you should look into a non-fleshlight version too

Brent 3dSexCash 08-17-2010 10:17 PM

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Originally Posted by chronig (Post 17423394)
Well what the shit is it that you don't see? :uhoh

What I'm saying makes sense.... flawed systems can still make money wise guy...

The company with rights to the patent might be the winner in all this.

We got a license 7 years ago so we shall see..

Many have tried this same thing over the years only to be shut down by a certain law firm (comprised of all patent attorneys) who bought the original patent.

Brent 3dSexCash 08-17-2010 10:21 PM

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Originally Posted by chronig (Post 17423399)
The plus side of vsex is that you don't need to buy a device and wait for it to arrive before playing... maybe you should look into a non-fleshlight version too

The Diltron works with just the mouse as well. So if you don't have a toy, no problem.

Half man, Half Amazing 08-17-2010 10:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Brent 3dSexCash (Post 17423387)
Definitely. That was something we had think about when making the device work with games like 3d-sexgames.com and the Thrixxx line of 3d adult games. Once the device is active, you don't want to be messing around with the mouse.

Going to be interesting to see what happens in this industry in the next few years...

From the sales i've been seeing from the tube traffic we've been sending Vsex, the actual customers don't see it as a flaw at all, i'm sure once you are actually up and it's running, you'll find out what you've done right and wrong. I know you're trying to get some good mileage out of this thread, but bagging on a company that already seems to be doing well makes you just look kinda desperate since no one can actually go to a site "live" right now and make their own determination of your system.

Half man, Half Amazing 08-17-2010 10:26 PM

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Originally Posted by chronig (Post 17423399)
The plus side of vsex is that you don't need to buy a device and wait for it to arrive before playing... maybe you should look into a non-fleshlight version too

That is a major plus. from what i've read, Real touch isn't exactly flying out of the warehouse. However, using a fleshlight is a great idea because those did/do.

Brent 3dSexCash 08-17-2010 10:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Half man, Half Amazing (Post 17423411)
From the sales i've been seeing from the tube traffic we've been sending Vsex, the actual customers don't see it as a flaw at all, i'm sure once you are actually up and it's running, you'll find out what you've done right and wrong. I know you're trying to get some good mileage out of this thread, but bagging on a company that already seems to be doing well makes you just look kinda desperate since no one can actually go to a site "live" right now and make their own determination of your system.

Nah.

The Diltron isn't our main product and is still very much in beta. I actually hope vsex does really well. It will be good for other products like it.

You have to understand how many of these type of sites i have seen over the years come and go because it violates a certain patent. I really hope they don't fall as these other sites did, because like i said, if they succeed it helps everyone in this niche.

This technology isnt new. It has just been squashed legally every time someone has tried to run with it.

chronig 08-17-2010 10:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Half man, Half Amazing (Post 17423411)
From the sales i've been seeing from the tube traffic we've been sending Vsex, the actual customers don't see it as a flaw at all, i'm sure once you are actually up and it's running, you'll find out what you've done right and wrong. I know you're trying to get some good mileage out of this thread, but bagging on a company that already seems to be doing well makes you just look kinda desperate since no one can actually go to a site "live" right now and make their own determination of your system.

You sound like a vsex employee you little faggot... 3dsex Brent didn't say anything bad about vsex... infact... he said quite the opposite. He simply responded to something that I pointed out, which you also ragged on... if you're just an affiliate why would you give a flying fuck? Wouldn't you want to keep the signups for yourself??? Why discredit my perfectly reasonable opinion of trying to use the shit system of a mouse in your right hand while masturbating at the same time with gasp... your right hand?

Oh that's why, because you're not actually getting those ratios you quoted originally it's because you're a fucking vsex employee. Faggot.

chronig 08-17-2010 10:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Half man, Half Amazing (Post 17423421)
That is a major plus. from what i've read, Real touch isn't exactly flying out of the warehouse. However, using a fleshlight is a great idea because those did/do.

Looks like this actually isn't a plus at all since the vstroker system is capable of using both mouse, new fleshlight OR CURRENTLY OWNED FLESHLIGHT. :thumbsup

The receiving end of the vsex machine does look quite a bit more impressive than the DiLTr()NaT0r though...

Half man, Half Amazing 08-17-2010 10:41 PM

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Originally Posted by chronig (Post 17423426)
You sound like a vsex employee you little faggot... 3dsex Brent didn't say anything bad about vsex... infact... he said quite the opposite. He simply responded to something that I pointed out, which you also ragged on... if you're just an affiliate why would you give a flying fuck? Wouldn't you want to keep the signups for yourself??? Why discredit my perfectly reasonable opinion of trying to use the shit system of a mouse in your right hand while masturbating at the same time with gasp... your right hand?

Oh that's why, because you're not actually getting those ratios you quoted originally it's because you're a fucking vsex employee. Faggot.

wrong on all counts. you really need to try decaff. And yes, we really are getting those ratios. I wasn't discrediting you, I actually agreed with you in my post after that about the fleshlight. I just thought it was absurd to say something is a flaw, when you are just throwing out an opinion with no factual basis from any experience.

chronig 08-17-2010 10:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Half man, Half Amazing (Post 17423437)
wrong on all counts. you really need to try decaff. And yes, we really are getting those ratios. I wasn't discrediting you, I actually agreed with you in my post after that about the fleshlight. I just thought it was absurd to say something is a flaw, when you are just throwing out an opinion with no factual basis from any experience.


It's absurd to think that using your RIGHT HAND to use your mouse and also needing to use your RIGHT HAND to masturbate is a flaw??? :uhoh :uhoh :uhoh :uhoh

You sound like that idiot MisterPeaBody in a different thread. Just because something is making money doesn't mean that it can't be improved or DOESN'T HAVE FLAWS.

Your explanation for my absurdity made it sound like you've never touched your dick before either... is that why you are half man? Do you not have a penis?

I only masturbate about once every day or two but I used to masturbate like 13 times a day when I was a kid and NOT ONCE DID I EVER USE MY LEFT HAND! I also use my computer for countless hours daily and guess what.... NOT ONCE HAVE I EVER USED MY MOUSE WITH MY LEFT HAND!!!!!!!!!!!!

This to me, makes for an akward system. What was your explanation again... once they 'figure everything out' it's all good? And what is it that they 'figure out' ... it's that they compromise by using their mouse with their left hand I'm sure. And I'm sure the site STILL MAKES GOOD MONEY even with this flaw, but it's still a flaw.

Half man, Half Amazing 08-17-2010 10:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Brent 3dSexCash (Post 17423425)
Nah.

The Diltron isn't our main product and is still very much in beta. I actually hope vsex does really well. It will be good for other products like it.

You have to understand how many of these type of sites i have seen over the years come and go because it violates a certain patent. I really hope they don't fall as these other sites did, because like i said, if they succeed it helps everyone in this niche.

This technology isnt new. It has just been squashed legally every time someone has tried to run with it.

That's all good. I wasn't trying to be rude. I hope everyone in this niche succeeds also. From what i've seen, this is the future of online adult.

chronig 08-17-2010 10:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Half man, Half Amazing (Post 17423437)
you really need to try decaff.

funny because I did have a coffee AND expresso today - and I'm not a coffee drinker - one or two a week typically and that's only because Colombia has the best coffee. :thumbsup

chronig 08-17-2010 10:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Half man, Half Amazing (Post 17423444)
From what i've seen, this is the future of online adult.

Well that's one thing we can all agree on... and I hope it's right

Refreshing to at least see a POSSIBILTY of such... instead of idiot hippies like Paul Markham writing their completely useless and irrelevant reasons as to why adult is dying... over... and over... and over... and over... and over again for the past 3 years straight.

Half man, Half Amazing 08-17-2010 10:52 PM

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Originally Posted by chronig (Post 17423443)
It's absurd to think that using your RIGHT HAND to use your mouse and also needing to use your RIGHT HAND to masturbate is a flaw??? :uhoh :uhoh :uhoh :uhoh

You sound like that idiot MisterPeaBody in a different thread. Just because something is making money doesn't mean that it can't be improved or DOESN'T HAVE FLAWS.

Your explanation for my absurdity made it sound like you've never touched your dick before either... is that why you are half man? Do you not have a penis?

I only masturbate about once every day or two but I used to masturbate like 13 times a day when I was a kid and NOT ONCE DID I EVER USE MY LEFT HAND! I also use my computer for countless hours daily and guess what.... NOT ONCE HAVE I EVER USED MY MOUSE WITH MY LEFT HAND!!!!!!!!!!!!

This to me, makes for an akward system. What was your explanation again... once they 'figure everything out' it's all good? And what is it that they 'figure out' ... it's that they compromise by using their mouse with their left hand I'm sure. And I'm sure the site STILL MAKES GOOD MONEY even with this flaw, but it's still a flaw.

From what I've seen, they have auto patterns to choose from as well. So the customer can set a pattern, then wank. flaw fixed.:)

Half man, Half Amazing 08-17-2010 10:53 PM

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Originally Posted by chronig (Post 17423448)
Well that's one thing we can all agree on... and I hope it's right

Refreshing to at least see a POSSIBILTY of such... instead of idiot hippies like Paul Markham writing their completely useless and irrelevant reasons as to why adult is dying... over... and over... and over... and over... and over again for the past 3 years straight.

Now that's 2 things we can agree on :thumbsup

Brent 3dSexCash 08-17-2010 11:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Half man, Half Amazing (Post 17423444)
That's all good. I wasn't trying to be rude. I hope everyone in this niche succeeds also. From what i've seen, this is the future of online adult.

No worries. I am more interested in the discussion regarding this technology than anything else.

gl


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