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Amputate Your Head 08-14-2010 09:10 AM

200 muslim centers

BlackCrayon 08-14-2010 09:13 AM

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Originally Posted by The Demon (Post 17415057)
Average citizen lived better back then because the strength of a gold backed dollar. You proved my point that we were at our economic apex in the 50s. COLLECTIVELY, more people were intelligent back then. That's where technology becomes a double edged sword. More people read, more people went outside, etc. Now everybody spends there days sitting on the computer, or playing with social networks.

How did the dollar being backed by gold do anything for the average citizen? I would not want go to back to the 50's personally. Many people were very poor, the KKK was strong as hell and lynching black people wasn't something seen as wrong. Most young men had to drop out of school to help support their families. Women were considered property and the government used its citizens as gineau pigs. Sure, some of this still goes on but its much harder to hide. I am all for bringing jobs back to the US though.

Brujah 08-14-2010 09:14 AM

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brassmonkey 08-14-2010 09:16 AM

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Originally Posted by BlackCrayon (Post 17415066)
How did the dollar being backed by gold do anything for the average citizen? I would not want go to back to the 50's personally. Many people were very poor, the KKK was strong as hell and lynching black people wasn't something seen as wrong. Most young men had to drop out of school to help support their families. Women were considered property and the government used its citizens as gineau pigs. Sure, some of this still goes on but its much harder to hide. I am all for bringing jobs back to the US though.

:1orglaugh the good ole' days when sarsaparilla was 2 bits. https://gfy.com/images/icons/stonedsmilie.gif

GregE 08-14-2010 09:18 AM

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Originally Posted by SL|M! (Post 17414297)
u know what, politically it was stupid for him to say anything. He should have just said, it was a local issue and the city made their decision.

You're right, I don't get this either. Obama is, after all, a politician and up until now he's been a pretty effective one.

The republicans have to be as happy as pigs in shit today :(

cambaby 08-14-2010 09:19 AM

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Originally Posted by The Demon (Post 17415060)
You need to calm the fuck down. You're making us conservatives look bad and giving the moronic left ammo to fight with.

I am not a Republican nor a true conservative if these idiots want to label me as such so be it. Ive voted for Democraps, Republitards and Indys, I subscribe to a common sense view, fuck being politically correct. If people can only see in black and white THEY are the true racists.

The Demon 08-14-2010 09:20 AM

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Originally Posted by BlackCrayon (Post 17415066)
How did the dollar being backed by gold do anything for the average citizen? I would not want go to back to the 50's personally. Many people were very poor, the KKK was strong as hell and lynching black people wasn't something seen as wrong. Most young men had to drop out of school to help support their families. Women were considered property and the government used its citizens as gineau pigs. Sure, some of this still goes on but its much harder to hide. I am all for bringing jobs back to the US though.

How did a gold backed dollar help the average citizen? Simple, everything was cheap as hell.
Since it's easy as hell to prove the Doc wrong by arguing reality, I'll just post this for you.
http://www.data360.org/dsg.aspx?Data_Set_Group_Id=248

Look at the unemployment rate. The Post WWII economic boom we experienced is greater than anything anyone ever had. There were negatives like the KKK sure, but the positives outweighed the negatives. People single out racism as the only reason why the 50s were apparently worse than now. Shit was cheap, people were employed, civility and morality were less debated and more closely followed, and hippies didn't exist.

The Demon 08-14-2010 09:21 AM

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Originally Posted by GregE (Post 17415072)
You're right, I don't get this either. Obama is, after all, a politician and up until now he's been a pretty effective one.

The republicans have to be as happy as pigs in shit today :(

Obama has been an effective politician? Really? Since when? Or are you as delusional as BFT3k and Thedoc?

Amputate Your Head 08-14-2010 09:21 AM

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Originally Posted by brassmonkey (Post 17415071)
:1orglaugh the good ole' days when sarsaparilla was 2 bits. https://gfy.com/images/icons/stonedsmilie.gif

And propaganda was streamed into households via "Leave it to Beaver", "Andy Griffith", and the like, to implant the idea of subservient wives & children as well as bolstering the notion that not only are there second class citizens, but that it's right & just.

Personally, I think Demon is just sore that he can't dress like the Fonz in 2010 and not get laughed at.

The Demon 08-14-2010 09:21 AM

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Originally Posted by cambaby (Post 17415075)
I am not a Republican nor a true conservative if these idiots want to label me as such so be it. Ive voted for Democraps, Republitards and Indys, I subscribe to a common sense view, fuck being politically correct. If people can only see in black and white THEY are the true racists.

Except you're arguing like the liberals, without any real common sense and just a bunch of emotions. Just calm down.

HandballJim 08-14-2010 09:23 AM

he just guaranteed himself a 1 term president :2 cents:

The Demon 08-14-2010 09:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Amputate Your Head (Post 17415079)
And propaganda was streamed into households via "Leave it to Beaver", "Andy Griffith", and the like, to implant the idea of subservient wives & children as well as bolstering the notion that not only are there second class citizens, but that it's right & just.

Personally, I think Demon is just sore that he can't dress like the Fonz in 2010 and not get laughed at.

Aside from your hilariously made up assertions, I CAN dress like the Fonz AND get away with it. Then again, Happy Days was actually made in the 70s, the Fonz DID dress like that outside the set, and he DIDN'T get laughed at so....:winkwink:

cambaby 08-14-2010 09:25 AM

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Originally Posted by GregE (Post 17415072)
You're right, I don't get this either. Obama is, after all, a politician and up until now he's been a pretty effective one.

He did it on purpose, there is a sinister reason behind it, there is no other conclusion why he would have made that calculated speech. Every poll Ive looked at well over 60% of Americans do not think that mosque is a good idea, yes legal but not a good idea and for a President on very shaky political ground to so blatantly be insensitive to the victims families and the New York community as well as most Americans opinion is pure stupidity/

Amputate Your Head 08-14-2010 09:28 AM

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Originally Posted by cambaby (Post 17415088)
He did it on purpose, there is a sinister reason behind it, there is no other conclusion why he would have made that calculated speech. Every poll Ive looked at well over 60% of Americans do not think that mosque is a good idea, yes legal but not a good idea and for a President on very shaky political ground to so blatantly be insensitive to the victims families and the New York community as well as most Americans opinion is pure stupidity/

This might be just too obvious for my pea brain to comprehend, but why aren't you cheering Obama's speech and the building of this muslim center? You obviously want Obama out of office as soon as possible and are convinced that this is going to do it, hell I would think you'd be the first one in line to help build it. It will further your agenda, will it not? You're certain it will put Obama out of office, so let's get you on the labor crew and get you & Demon started building this thing.

brassmonkey 08-14-2010 09:30 AM

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Originally Posted by HandballJim (Post 17415084)
he just guaranteed himself a 1 term president :2 cents:

that's what they said about bush :winkwink: "The Great White Hope"

cambaby 08-14-2010 09:31 AM

Your tax dollars are paying for this radical muslim imams trip overseas
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/38653657...more_politics/

This is the guy who will be preaching his support of Hamas inside the Ground Zero victory mosque.

rogueteens 08-14-2010 09:32 AM

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Originally Posted by cambaby (Post 17414241)
Shut up Red Coat, you have NO RIGHTS in this thread.

Red Coat? Do you mean the old style British army tunics ... ?

http://st.cuthbert.3417.tripod.com/s...ures/zulu2.jpg

Cheers for the compliment! :thumbsup

Vendzilla 08-14-2010 09:32 AM

I don't have a problem with them building it or where they're putting it, it's insensitive of them, but that's their right.
What gets me is why Obama had to make a comment on it?
Why he had to send the Imam to the middle east , paid for by us taxpayers?
Why are we having a Ramadan dinner at the pentagon?

Amputate Your Head 08-14-2010 09:34 AM

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Originally Posted by cambaby (Post 17415104)
Your tax dollars are paying for this radical muslim imams trip overseas
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/38653657...more_politics/

This is the guy who will be preaching his support of Hamas inside the Ground Zero victory mosque.

My tax dollars pay for all kinds of shit I'm not happy about, like public schools for all your rotten fucking kids, state & federal employees that get 90% of their highest salary for life, and fucking old people on Medicare. Why should I or anyone else give a fuck about some dude getting a free plane ride?

Vendzilla 08-14-2010 09:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Amputate Your Head (Post 17415098)
This might be just too obvious for my pea brain to comprehend, but why aren't you cheering Obama's speech and the building of this muslim center? You obviously want Obama out of office as soon as possible and are convinced that this is going to do it, hell I would think you'd be the first one in line to help build it. It will further your agenda, will it not? You're certain it will put Obama out of office, so let's get you on the labor crew and get you & Demon started building this thing.

they may need them, going to be hard to find union crews to work on that project

cambaby 08-14-2010 09:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Amputate Your Head (Post 17415098)
This might be just too obvious for my pea brain to comprehend, but why aren't you cheering Obama's speech and the building of this muslim center? You obviously want Obama out of office as soon as possible and are convinced that this is going to do it, hell I would think you'd be the first one in line to help build it. It will further your agenda, will it not? You're certain it will put Obama out of office, so let's get you on the labor crew and get you & Demon started building this thing.

You dont get it, I dont give a fuck WHO is President, if Obama shut his jiggaboo mouth and fought for the REPUBLIC of the United States of America and stopped being such a pansy socialist ass kissing puppet I wouldnt have a fucking problem.

I love how you think my opposition to this mosque is because Im conservative or Republican, really makes me laugh. Common sense tells me its a BAD idea to build it when most Americans are extremely offended, common sense also tells me Obama is a political idiot for coming out in support when he didnt need to say anything at all. He went out of his way to defend Muslim rights but he has NEVER went out of his way to protect any other religion. Doesnt take a rocket scientist to figure out why.

Amputate Your Head 08-14-2010 09:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Vendzilla (Post 17415114)
they may need them, going to be hard to find union crews to work on that project

Fuck the union.

cambaby 08-14-2010 09:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Amputate Your Head (Post 17415113)
My tax dollars pay for all kinds of shit I'm not happy about, like public schools for all your rotten fucking kids, state & federal employees that get 90% of their highest salary for life, and fucking old people on Medicare. Why should I or anyone else give a fuck about some dude getting a free plane ride?

You posted the anarchist symbol, I know exactly where you stand, you must be in the throes of teenage angst still trying to define who you are, because frankly you are no one and you know it and this is why you worship anarchy. :thumbsup

cambaby 08-14-2010 09:39 AM

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Originally Posted by rogueteens (Post 17415107)
Cheers for the compliment! :thumbsup

No problem, just leave it to us Yanks to take care of you. RIP.
http://www.eyetrixme.com/portfolio/W...%20Officer.jpg

directfiesta 08-14-2010 09:39 AM

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Originally Posted by cambaby (Post 17415075)
I am not a Republican nor a true conservative if these idiots want to label me as such so be it. Ive voted for Democraps, Republitards and Indys, I subscribe to a common sense view, fuck being politically correct. If people can only see in black and white THEY are the true racists.

There are no Republicans or conservatives on this board .

There are Democrats ( liberals ) ... and the OTHERS ....

HandballJim 08-14-2010 09:41 AM

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Originally Posted by brassmonkey (Post 17415102)
that's what they said about bush :winkwink: "The Great White Hope"

I never heard bush ref as "The Great White Hope", you must be confused working on that watermelon farm. :1orglaugh

Amputate Your Head 08-14-2010 09:41 AM

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Originally Posted by cambaby (Post 17415116)
You dont get it,

Yes, I do.

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Originally Posted by cambaby (Post 17415116)
I dont give a fuck WHO is President,

Yes, you do.

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Originally Posted by cambaby (Post 17415116)
if Obama shut his jiggaboo mouth and fought for the REPUBLIC of the United States of America and stopped being such a pansy socialist ass kissing puppet I wouldnt have a fucking problem.

Yes, you would. Because you're an agenda driven douche.

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Originally Posted by cambaby (Post 17415116)
I love how you think my opposition to this mosque is because Im conservative or Republican,

Never said any such thing.

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Originally Posted by cambaby (Post 17415116)
really makes me laugh.

Laughter is good for you.

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Originally Posted by cambaby (Post 17415116)
Common sense

Wait.... what? You?! Baaaahahahahahahaaaaa!

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Originally Posted by cambaby (Post 17415116)
tells me its a BAD idea to build it when most Americans are extremely offended,

There's lots of bad ideas. Get over it. Who gives a fuck who is offended. I'm offended that you think it fucking matters.

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Originally Posted by cambaby (Post 17415116)
common sense

Wait.... again? You?! Baaaaaaahahahahahahahhaaaaaa!!

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Originally Posted by cambaby (Post 17415116)
also tells me Obama is a political idiot for coming out in support when he didnt need to say anything at all.

Who fucking cares what you think. Who are you? You're a fucking nobody.

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Originally Posted by cambaby (Post 17415116)
He went out of his way to defend Muslim rights but he has NEVER went out of his way to protect any other religion. Doesnt take a rocket scientist to figure out why.

Doesn't take a rocket genius either to figure out you're spewing hate for the sake of spewing hate and nothing else. But that's your fucking right. Enjoy it.

Cyandin 08-14-2010 09:41 AM

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Originally Posted by cambaby (Post 17414220)
So if a Mormon raped your wife and murdered your child and when he got out he bought the house next door and every day came out and said "Hello neighbor God Bless" you wouldnt go fucking ballistic.

Fuck you too, I suspect you have no allegiance to this country at all.


Unfortunately, your thesis posits that the 9/11 attack was perpetrated by the Muslim religion, when in fact it was not. It was carried out (putting aside all 9/11 truth debate for a moment) by people who were Muslim, but not by the religion itself.

Also, your example which I quoted differs critically from the 9/11 attack which you are comparing it to. Your theoretical example above would only be accurate if an actual perpetrator of the 9/11 attack was to be worshipping/attending the mosque in question. The accurate comparison would be if a Mormon raped and murdered your wife and child, and then some other Mormon moved in next door to you.

You cannot blame every member of a race, religion, ethnicity, gender, or sexual preference for the actions of a small minority in that same group. If you do, you're committing a cardinal sin against intelligence and history.

Sorry, but your argument is wholly invalid.

BlackCrayon 08-14-2010 09:41 AM

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Originally Posted by cambaby (Post 17415116)
You dont get it, I dont give a fuck WHO is President, if Obama shut his jiggaboo mouth and fought for the REPUBLIC of the United States of America and stopped being such a pansy socialist ass kissing puppet I wouldnt have a fucking problem.

I love how you think my opposition to this mosque is because Im conservative or Republican, really makes me laugh. Common sense tells me its a BAD idea to build it when most Americans are extremely offended, common sense also tells me Obama is a political idiot for coming out in support when he didnt need to say anything at all. He went out of his way to defend Muslim rights but he has NEVER went out of his way to protect any other religion. Doesnt take a rocket scientist to figure out why.

i can only assume most americans are against it because they are misinformed. why are certain news channels calling it a mosque or saying its on the ground zero site? neither is true. i would wonder how many islamic organizations have been in that area for decades already? I'm sure there are at least a few.

Amputate Your Head 08-14-2010 09:41 AM

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Originally Posted by cambaby (Post 17415120)
You posted the anarchist symbol, I know exactly where you stand, you must be in the throes of teenage angst still trying to define who you are, because frankly you are no one and you know it and this is why you worship anarchy. :thumbsup

Talk about clueless.

rogueteens 08-14-2010 09:44 AM

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Originally Posted by cambaby (Post 17415122)
No problem, just leave it to us Yanks to take care of you. RIP.

sure, just remember to call on us to sort it out when it goes tits up again. (i'm quite sure that when you guys come a-calling we wont wait a year or so like you johnny-come-latelys in the two world wars) Your record on wars isnt the greatest is it now? Picking on tiddly little countries and not always winning. Vietnam went into extra time and ended up with you lot throwing in the towel.

cambaby 08-14-2010 09:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Amputate Your Head (Post 17415125)
You are spewing hate

Oh I am spewing hate for a reason, directed at pansy wishy washy fucks like you, and you care enough to respond so I know it affects you. You are nothing but my internet bitch for me to toy with, and its so fun.

You stand for nothing.
You are nothing.

Amputate Your Head 08-14-2010 09:45 AM

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Originally Posted by cambaby (Post 17415137)
Oh I am spewing hate for a reason, directed at pansy wishy washy fucks like you, and you care enough to respond so I know it affects you. You are nothing but my internet bitch for me to toy with, and its so fun.

You stand for nothing.
You are nothing.

You and you're agenda are falling apart cambaby. :1orglaugh

cambaby 08-14-2010 09:46 AM

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Originally Posted by rogueteens (Post 17415133)
sure, just remember to call on us to sort it out when it goes tits up again. (i'm quite sure that when you guys come a-calling we wont wait a year or so like you johnny-come-latelys in the two world wars) Your record on wars isnt the greatest is it now? Picking on tiddly little countries and not always winning. Vietnam went into extra time and ended up with you lot throwing in the towel.

We dont CALL you anymore, we call the Australians, you just tag along.

GregE 08-14-2010 09:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Vendzilla (Post 17415108)
I don't have a problem with them building it or where they're putting it, it's insensitive of them, but that's their right.
What gets me is why Obama had to make a comment on it?
Why he had to send the Imam to the middle east , paid for by us taxpayers?
Why are we having a Ramadan dinner at the pentagon?

I don't get it either but, one thing's for sure, the Republican Party has just been handed a gift they neither expected nor deserve.

Dumb, dumb, dumb.

Amputate Your Head 08-14-2010 09:50 AM

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Originally Posted by GregE (Post 17415143)
I don't get it either but, one thing's for sure, the Republican Party has just been handed a gift they neither expected nor deserve.

Dumb, dumb, dumb.

I'm not seeing it that way. If the re-pubes try to use this against him, what are they standing for? Government interfering with religion? Discrimination? Intolerance? I have no doubt the re-pubes would love to use it, but I don't see how they really can. Dems have the law on their side on this one. The baggers are probably just confused and don't know what to do.

Vendzilla 08-14-2010 09:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Amputate Your Head (Post 17415117)
Fuck the union.

You can say that, but from working in high rise construction for about 7 years, I can tell you that you can't build that building there without the unions and in New York, they have considerable power

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Originally Posted by GregE (Post 17415143)
I don't get it either but, one thing's for sure, the Republican Party has just been handed a gift they neither expected nor deserve.

Dumb, dumb, dumb.

Politically a bad move by Barry, but it doesn't surprise me, his Islamic upbringing has shown before when dealing with Israel.
He would have done well to be quite about it

TheDoc 08-14-2010 09:53 AM

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Originally Posted by The Demon (Post 17415059)
Yup Doc, you really don't know your history which doesn't surprise anyone anymore. But it's clear that you're not actually bringing facts into the discussion. You usually don't when you include "anyone who thinks..." But I guess we get to laugh at you early this Saturday.

Oh look, another typical The Demon reply... use what is said against you to the other person, yawn. And as usual claim facts are wrong but never, not once back up your own mouth by taking the opportunity to prove a person wrong.

What a pathetic stain on society and gfy you are.

Amputate Your Head 08-14-2010 09:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Vendzilla (Post 17415150)
You can say that, but from working in high rise construction for about 7 years, I can tell you that you can't build that building there without the unions and in New York, they have considerable power

I've crossed union lines personally in the past, so I know it can be done.

sortie 08-14-2010 09:54 AM

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Originally Posted by CaptainHowdy (Post 17414959)
Go protest outside, please...


BEST POST EVER!



:thumbsup

cambaby 08-14-2010 09:55 AM

This is the man Obama fucked a nation over to defend
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Feisal_Abdul_Rauf

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Columnist Jonathan Rauch wrote that Abdul Rauf gave a "mixed, muddled, muttered" message after 9/11. Nineteen days after the attacks, he told CBS’s 60 Minutes that fanaticism and terrorism have no place in Islam. Rauch said that the message was mixed, however, because when then asked if the U.S. deserved the attacks, Rauf answered: "I wouldn’t say that the United States deserved what happened. But the United States’ policies were an accessory to the crime that happened." Rauch observed: "Note the verb. The crime "happened"?"

HandballJim 08-14-2010 10:00 AM

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Originally Posted by sortie (Post 17415159)

Originally Posted by CaptainHowdy View Post
Go protest outside, please...

BEST POST EVER!


:thumbsup

True, if a million Yankee fans can go to a World Series parade...can you imagine how many people will protest. (sounds good, but no more than 100 people will show up)

Vendzilla 08-14-2010 10:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Amputate Your Head (Post 17415155)
I've crossed union lines personally in the past, so I know it can be done.

I crossed lines on a wild cat strike on a 35 story high rise by the iron workers, UM, yeah it can be done, but people die from that shit. We couldn't work because things kept flying down the elevator shafts, our lines kept getting cut, stuff got loosened. We played a lot of poker. And we were union!
Rules in New York City are the worse for trying to build anything non union and they get serious there. Bent nose Bada Bing serious.
And the city will not pass anything that's not built by certified people, they're all union in that city

Amputate Your Head 08-14-2010 10:03 AM

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Originally Posted by cambaby (Post 17415160)
This is the man Obama fucked a nation over to defend
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Feisal_Abdul_Rauf

I agree with him. :)

cambaby 08-14-2010 10:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Amputate Your Head (Post 17415170)
I agree with him. :)

You celebrate the killing of your own people, disgusting pig. You are the type of guy that when his asshole buddy gets in a fight and is jumped by 12 people you just sit back and drink your beer and quietly sneak out giggling. Fucking pussy.

BlackCrayon 08-14-2010 10:06 AM

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Originally Posted by The Demon (Post 17415076)
How did a gold backed dollar help the average citizen? Simple, everything was cheap as hell.
Since it's easy as hell to prove the Doc wrong by arguing reality, I'll just post this for you.
http://www.data360.org/dsg.aspx?Data_Set_Group_Id=248

Look at the unemployment rate. The Post WWII economic boom we experienced is greater than anything anyone ever had. There were negatives like the KKK sure, but the positives outweighed the negatives. People single out racism as the only reason why the 50s were apparently worse than now. Shit was cheap, people were employed, civility and morality were less debated and more closely followed, and hippies didn't exist.

Actually, if you compare the price of things in relation to how much money people made, things are cheaper today. Sure things sound cheap back then but people also made much, much less. I won't argue the unemployment, we need to start making things over here. I'd be willing to pay a bit more knowing that we're helping people at home rather thank cheaping out buying stuff made in china.

Amputate Your Head 08-14-2010 10:07 AM

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Originally Posted by cambaby (Post 17415178)
You celebrate the killing of your own people, disgusting pig. You are the type of guy that when his asshole buddy gets in a fight and is jumped by 12 people you just sit back and drink your beer and quietly sneak out giggling. Fucking pussy.

I celebrate your stupidity. :)

cambaby 08-14-2010 10:10 AM

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Originally Posted by BlackCrayon (Post 17415179)
Actually, if you compare the price of things in relation to how much money people made, things are cheaper today. Sure things sound cheap back then but people also made much, much less. I won't argue the unemployment, we need to start making things over here. I'd be willing to pay a bit more knowing that we're helping people at home rather thank cheaping out buying stuff made in china.

Things are MADE cheaper these days... no one uses real sugar in soft drinks anymore, they use high fructose corn syrup, more things are made of plastic instead of wood/metals, cheap labor from overseas importing cheap goods.

bronco67 08-14-2010 10:11 AM

Holy shit, when I read the thread title I thought it said Osama.

sortie 08-14-2010 10:18 AM

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Originally Posted by HandballJim (Post 17415166)
True, if a million Yankee fans can go to a World Series parade...can you imagine how many people will protest. (sounds good, but no more than 100 people will show up)

STFU watermelon face. :1orglaugh

100 people is all that really give a shit but their mouths are so fucking big that
it seems like a million.


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