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DeepDish 08-15-2010 02:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SpicyM (Post 17416525)
yeah, its very very hard these day not to make sales .. please protect me from making sales :1orglaugh :1orglaugh

:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

VGeorgie 08-15-2010 08:31 AM

Where's the beef? A program doesn't know a legit chargeback from a fraudulent affiliate. Of course they're not going to pay on a chargeback from a brand new affiliate. Revshare or PPS has nothing to do with it. In fact, under PPS they're more careful to watch for chargebacks as it could indicate carding by the affiliate.

Really, this is Adult Affiliate 101 stuff here.

Adraco 08-15-2010 08:50 AM

I don't have the average or expected number of chargebacks per 100 sales, but let's for the sake of the argument assume it's 2%. The important thing is not the number in itself, rather than it's fairly small.

If a new affiliate comes in, he starts to make a few sales and BAM, here comes the first chargeback. Quite quickly after him joining. Does not look good. And as a free business man, I choose freely who I want to do business with and thus terminate such an account. Both to cut my own losses directly but aslo as a simple security measure, anyone with such high rate of chargeback percentage will not be good business. There's a reason why some big programs have PPS on request only.

Dreamteam 08-15-2010 01:43 PM

So when a member is not happy because they stick an extra 2 or 3 unwanted $39.99 cross sales in his ass then it"s ok to blame the affiliate? Cool.

Besides that .... No chargebacks on PPS sales .. plain and simple.

GotGauge 08-15-2010 01:52 PM

DeepDish what type of Traffic, are you sending?
Chat?

u-Bob 08-15-2010 02:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DBS.US (Post 17415595)
So you think you should still get paid when a sponsor get a chargeback?:disgust

on revshare: no
on pps: yes

DeepDish 08-15-2010 02:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GotGauge (Post 17417397)
DeepDish what type of Traffic, are you sending?
Chat?

most of the traffic is from google, but I also have tgp as well!

james_clickmemedia 08-15-2010 03:11 PM

wow things must have changed.

If you promote a PPS program then usually the credits & chargebacks ( if any ) are NOT taken out of the affiliates payments. However if you get what a program considers a high amount they are likely to terminate your account or switch you to a rev. share account.

If you promote rev-share then the program usually DOES take out all chargebacks & credits from your account.

Revshare however is not where I would send any traffic too these days, far to risky as the programs generally are run hand to mouth and have no bank roll.

DeepDish 08-16-2010 02:09 AM

Yes things has been changed

TeenCat 08-16-2010 02:19 AM

man, you know, depends on money, if you make few dollars with them and they took that few back, fuck the sponsor, if you make thousands and they take hundred or two, fuck it and party less today :winkwink: :2 cents:

TeenCat 08-16-2010 02:22 AM

of course depends on promotion, if you lie and sponsor get cb, its your fault, if you promote something that is on tour but not inside members area, say bye to the sponsor right now cause you are scamming your surfers :2 cents:

DeepDish 08-16-2010 02:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TeenCat (Post 17418140)
man, you know, depends on money, if you make few dollars with them and they took that few back, fuck the sponsor, if you make thousands and they take hundred or two, fuck it and party less today :winkwink: :2 cents:

Very true man, I will do what you said :thumbsup

RazorSharpe 08-16-2010 03:11 AM

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Originally Posted by munki (Post 17416426)
This is case and point one of the larger current problems with our industry. You can barely string together a sentence in proper English, you have no understanding of chargebacks and their overall effect, and you are bitching about payouts you probably shouldn't have had in the first place being so clueless.

This is why the affiliate model is dieing.

Affiliates seem to have a better than thou outlook on everything. You are basically outside sales reps. If this were any other industry you would've been clipped a long time ago.

So English has to be your first language in order to be an affiliate - gotcha!!!
Where do you guys come up with this stuff? This is unadulterated comedy!

Seriously, his English may not be as good as yours but based on this thread, everyone seems to have understood what he's asking so what's the deal? I've yet to see a sponsors TOS asking that only fluent English speakers sign-up to be affiliates.

Historically, PPS has always been free of having chargebacks passed on to the affiliate so his question is a fair one if you ask me.

DeepDish 08-16-2010 07:30 AM

The only thing here is that I'm not agree to have CB's when I use PPS!!!


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