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GrouchyAdmin 08-25-2010 03:37 AM

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Originally Posted by dyna mo (Post 17438400)
you are mixing up your mustangs. the car we are discussing is the mass production boss 302. moreover, you are referring to the warranty for an upgrade.

You are actually bog serious about a bog stock 302 vs an M3? Really? Ok, I'm out, I feel a thrombosis coming on before it turns into a '92 V6..

Jon Oso 08-25-2010 03:57 AM

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Originally Posted by NetHorse (Post 17437322)
From a tuner standpoint, and a factory standpoint.

$30,000 less
Gets WAY better gas mileage, 26mph on the hwy vs 20mpg.
Has more midrange torque
Accelerates around the same

Yeah, they're comparable, but they're in two totally different classes. A guy looking for an M3 isn't going to say "Hey I could get a Mustang for half the price, it's just as fast... sounds like a winner." Just like the guy who is looking for the Mustang isn't going to buy the BMW because of it's prestige or build quality.

I'd take the Mustang over the BMW if it was a money game, just because I've worked on cars and I know taking care of a BMW gets expensive.

For 60K they should have been comparing it to the GT500, not the GT. BMW guys would be hiding in the corner if they put those two next to each other.


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Originally Posted by NetHorse (Post 17437322)
Of course it is a better built car, but not because it's a BMW, but because it's $30,000 more.

Not disagreeing with you, at all.

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Originally Posted by NetHorse (Post 17437322)
That's just it though, the older Mustangs were built like shit compared to the new ones. The quality of Fords vehicles has gone up 10 fold, why is it you think they're comparing a Mustang GT to an M3 in the first place? A Mustang could NEVER brake or handle like an M3 until now. Mustangs were never built like they are now, never had a high tech, high revving V8 with variable valve timing and never had a German engineered Getrag transmission.

The Mustangs you've owned never looked or performed remotely on the same level as this one.

http://j.imagehost.org/0058/mustang.jpg

Of course not. The build quality of my 04 was okay. I bought that one new. Put 19,000 miles on it in a year and sold it and ended up buying the 89 LX with the intention of turning it into a race car. I couldn't deal with the rattles, shit quality, outside door handles exploding when trying to open the doors... etc. The 98 was my first car, actually never had any problems with it until I sprayed WAY too much nitrous through the car and blew out both of the headgaskets. That was the end of that.

64-67 the Mustangs were nice. 88-93 are great for drag cars. 94-98 had IMO the best body style and in the first two years still had the 5.0 powerplant. 99-04 were pretty much worthless aside from the blown 03-04 Cobras. Then you get into the newer style mustangs that were still junk without a blower, and now they've brought back the 5.0 in a mod motor fashion, and they're finally making a car worth the money.

james_clickmemedia 08-25-2010 04:32 AM

Since the 80's mustangs have been a p.o.s.
A four cylinder mustang was the beginning of the end for them to be taken seriously.
Now the 60's mustang are classic from when America built cars people wanted to buy without have to beg them into the dealerships with finance, & $$$ of sticker incentives.....

rant over....

pornguy 08-25-2010 05:16 AM

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Originally Posted by k0nr4d (Post 17437309)
I woudln't be caught dead in that mustang. You don't buy the bmw to be faster or slower then a mustang, you buy it because it has prestige so you look like a somebody when you pull up to your clients office.

Thats one way to think about it.

Minte 08-25-2010 08:52 AM

The Germans designed and engineered cars for the Autobahn. The Americans for the interstate. I've more experience owning German cars, but from what I hear from friends that sport drive and race, the Americans have caught up to the Europeans. The new Vette will run with an Enzo at about 1/10th the cost.

If I had my choice I'd still go with the M3 because I have owned a lot of BMW's over the years including an M3smg and they were all great cars.

If I was looking to save a few dollars I'd have no issues owning a Mustang. I think the Americans biggest problem now is perception. There is no way an Enzo is worth 10 times the cost of a Corvette. And I feel confident in saying that the M3 isn't worth twice the price of these new Mustangs.

dyna mo 08-25-2010 08:55 AM

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Originally Posted by GrouchyAdmin (Post 17439995)
You are actually bog serious about a bog stock 302 vs an M3? Really? Ok, I'm out, I feel a thrombosis coming on before it turns into a '92 V6..

umm, what?

could someone translate this for me?

Semi-Retired-Dave 08-25-2010 08:57 AM

Both cars Chirped in third gear. I think they added the sound affect.

american pervert 08-25-2010 09:01 AM

when i had my mini cooper S the only ppl who wanted to race me regularly were douchebag mustang drivers.

NetHorse 08-25-2010 09:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Jon Oso (Post 17440011)
Yeah, they're comparable, but they're in two totally different classes. A guy looking for an M3 isn't going to say "Hey I could get a Mustang for half the price, it's just as fast... sounds like a winner." Just like the guy who is looking for the Mustang isn't going to buy the BMW because of it's prestige or build quality.

Agreed..Two different classes.

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Originally Posted by Minte (Post 17440547)
The Germans designed and engineered cars for the Autobahn. The Americans for the interstate. I've more experience owning German cars, but from what I hear from friends that sport drive and race, the Americans have caught up to the Europeans. The new Vette will run with an Enzo at about 1/10th the cost.

If I had my choice I'd still go with the M3 because I have owned a lot of BMW's over the years including an M3smg and they were all great cars.

If I was looking to save a few dollars I'd have no issues owning a Mustang. I think the Americans biggest problem now is perception. There is no way an Enzo is worth 10 times the cost of a Corvette. And I feel confident in saying that the M3 isn't worth twice the price of these new Mustangs.

Also agree with this. :thumbsup

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Originally Posted by dyna mo (Post 17440554)
umm, what?

could someone translate this for me?

That would be impossible. :upsidedow

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Originally Posted by american pervert (Post 17440569)
when i had my mini cooper S the only ppl who wanted to race me regularly were douchebag mustang drivers.

:1orglaugh :1orglaugh mini cooper :1orglaugh :1orglaugh

That post wins best post of the day, cute little cars for sure. :)

american pervert 08-25-2010 09:42 AM

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Originally Posted by NetHorse (Post 17440678)



:1orglaugh :1orglaugh mini cooper :1orglaugh :1orglaugh

That post wins best post of the day, cute little cars for sure. :)


you ever drive a mini cooper S?


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