http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-503544_1...76-503544.html
http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/news/ni...towering-debt/

What now? Reject

oh snappppppppppp what did i starttttttttttt

It's election time again already? Didn't you guys JUST get obama?

Obama did not create the 2 trillion in debt, we can see exactly what he spent his stimulus on and how much - and it isn't anywhere close to 2 trillion. You can't find where Obama spent 2 extra trillion dollars, you can't find it in the budget, on the books, war records, any place. Because a big part of it is a correction. And of course Jobs being down makes the debt go up, the automatic stabilizer kicks in. Again, not Obama's doing or fault. Bah....

People like you make American one sad place to live.. uneducated shit stains running all over this Country pretending like they have any type of clue - you make me sick.

It's simple, in the next 2 years the economy turns around then yes, if it doesn't than no... :winkwink:

I think that it really depends on who the Republicans can put up against him. In the current climate the only way one will be able to get the nomination is if they pander to the tea party and by doing that they will be moving to a too extreme point which will not appeal to the overall electorate.

So unless the Republicans can start to move more towards the middle I think they do not have a chance at the White House in 2012

I think you are wrong. McCain was in the middle, Bush was in the middle. We know how that worked out. The more libertarian the republican candidate is the better chance they have.

Isn't Libertarian in the middle? I really don't know, I just assumed it was.

Bingo.

It's one thing to go on and on about what a disappointment the current President is. It's quite another to come up with a viable flesh and blood alternative.

I sure hope he doesn't get in for a 2nd term

He will get in for a 2nd term because..

1. There is no reasonable opponent
2. I am not entirely sure the GOP wants to get in this time round. Give the man enough rope to hang himself.

i can't say if this guy is just a joke or for real :helpme

Thread saver,
:1orglaugh

holy fuck.

So true, I was all for McCain until I heard Sarah Palin's first speech.

The country is at a crossroad. Most people believe we need to fix a lot of problems that no one has been able to fix in decades, like healthcare, energy dependence, pollution, etc.

The corporations who stand to lose the most, once any of these issues are realistically addressed, do not want to accept these inevitable changes coming down the pike.

They buy our politicians (both sides of the aisle), they set up fear campaigns for distractions, and they bamboozle legitimately angry Americans to follow movements, like the Tea Party, which they have already hijacked right out from under you.

If you do not realize this, then you are blind to the truth.

Obama is facing opposition, controlled by these corporations, who do not give a SHIT about you! In return for offering nothing productive whatsoever, they think they can gain back power, as they had for the past 8 years. Years where the corporations shipped out US jobs, did nothing about healthcare, virtually eliminated the middle class, did not address energy, did not address the environment, did not monitor wall street's insane non-regulated gambling, etc.

It is possible that these forces are so strong now, that they WILL be able to stop Obama from doing ANYTHING worthwhile. Half of you idiots think that's just fine, and somehow feel it is a good move. You are true assholes.

United we stand and divided we fall, as they say, and some of you are more than happy to fan the flames of division, totally against your very own best interests.

It is sad to see, to say the least, but unless the people who govern this country unite for the common good of the people, instead of for the fat cats that are their true owners, we are all fucked, regardless of which way you lean politically.

Now the GOP is about to begin a litigation campaign against this administration, along the lines of what they did to Clinton. If they can't get their way, they act like fucking 2 year old brats, ALL AT OUR EXPENSE.

How many of you are in the top 2% income bracket? If you are not, and you are railing against the Bush tax breaks for the rich expiring (as just one example), then you are being played - clear and simple.

WAKE THE FUCK UP!

This coming from a moron who probably didn't graduate high school, can't deduce delusion from reality, and embarrasses himself on a porn forum. Keep making us laugh clown:) I guess too much head trauma got the better of you.:) :) :)

You mean sort of like shoving a health care bill nobody wanted down our throats?

Your insults are weak and played out Demon. Time to go back to the dollar store for another 'Big Book of Forum Zings'.

Who is "nobody"? You? :1orglaugh

Extremely well said. Bravo. Very clearly stated and I could not agree more. The only thing I would add is that as long as the the powers that be can keep the rest of us name calling and squabbling they can easily make sure there is no real credible threat to their control of the government

People who do not want healthcare reform have been trained to "not want healthcare reform" They are thoughtless, shortsighted, corporate-controlled, fox-watching douche bags, much like yourself.

In reality, healthcare reform is imperative for this country, and if you think it is not, then you are too stupid to converse with.

Of course everyone here already knows that about you, but sometimes I like to state the obvious for any newcomers who may think ANYTHING you say has even a HINT of intelligence. YOU are the problem.

No because John Boehner will be the new majority leader who ushers in an era of change by giving tax cuts to the richest 2% of america and doing nothing else because that solves everything you idiots.

Our new black jesus.

I'm confused. Are you talking about Obama or Bush? Because most of those apply to both.

You ignored the actual post made, another example why people like you make America sick - unable to confront the truth but have no problem spewing lies and false information.

P.S. I know lots of people that wanted the health care bill, anyway we could get it - on both sides of the fence. Most of us use logic and know that getting our foot in the door is more important that doing the impossible and creating the perfect system from day one.

I don't need "zings" to make you look stupid. I just do it for fun:) And "Nobody" would be the majority of Americans.

You've never demonstrated an iota of logic on this forum, which is why you're usually ridiculed. And I didn't ignore the actual post because you ignored the facts and then turned it on me. You're so hilariously simple. :1orglaugh:1orglaugh

"everyone". Right. Like everyone knows your intelligence is on the same level as thedoc, and why you're not taken seriously. Also, your premise is hilarious. Welcome to the strawman world of BFT3K. I'll try and dumb it down for you.

My Premise: The majority of Americans didn't want the current health care bill that was passed.

Your assertion: Anyone who doesn't want healthcare reform is (insert simple minded insult here). Understand? Don't think it can get any simpler than that.:1orglaugh

So the majority of Americans wanted it then. Sounds like it worked out alright. :1orglaugh

I rest my case. Way too easy.:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

You've been "resting your case" here for a long time Demon.... nobody is really even sure what your "case" is any more... lol :1orglaugh

The Demon: An example of someone with absolutely nothing worthwhile to offer, but so mentally unstable, that he continues to offer nothing worthwhile.

It's like a person who vomits, eats the vomit, vomits it back up, eats it again, etc... Just a constant cycle of valueless nonsense

Now sit back and wait for his brilliant retort, always along the lines of "I know you are, but what am I, nya nya nya".

In 3.... 2.... 1.....

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And we have predictable BFT3K. In the face of facts and logic, he runs away like a scared little girl and tries to divert attention through his own stupidity.:1orglaugh

Dude, we see who's the one that gets bashed in every thread by the majority of the people, it isn't anyone else - but you. Your brain is mashed.

Again, you ignore the 'fact' that you can not explain how Obama some how generated this magical 2 trillion in debt out of thin air when he didn't spend the money. Just because an opinion article says under Obama the debt went up 2 trillion - doesn't mean Obama himself made the debt go up 2 trillion. For sure, when neither article explains what Obama did to make it go up.

You truly can't be that brain dead.

yes.... he can. I've witnessed enough Demon posts to know without a doubt, he's as batshit crazy as Sharon Angle.

1. You get bashed in MOST threads, even I'm not as dumb as you to use quantifiers such as "every". The majority of the people on this forum think you're a joke, which is why not even 10 people vouched for you when you had the opportunity to show your worth, which is nil.

And I CAN explain how Obama generated that debt. It's called the printing press. He had the FED use it. HIS OWN stimulus programs failed. His cash for .... failed. You're a stupid human being TheDoc, we realize this.:winkwink:

pot.kettle.black.:1orglaugh

Christ you are thick.

Does someone water you twice a week?