Originally Posted by theking (Post 17451074)

No. I had a friend that went to a bar to retrieve his wayward wife. He demanded that she leave the bar with him and when she refused the ensuing argument attracted the security guards. They told him to leave the premises and he told them that he would not leave without his wife. They grabbed him...and escorted him from the bar. When he broke loose from them outside the bar he began fighting back. There were three security guards and he of course lost the battle. The security guards called the cops and when the cops saw that my friend was sober and listened to his story...saw that he was pretty beaten up...they refused to arrest him and instead...asked him if he wanted to make a citizen's arrest...which he did. The cops took the security guards to jail where they were booked on battery charges.

When the case went to court the security guards pled no contest to the charges. They had to pay a fine and was given suspended jail sentences.

BTW...this happened in California.

Originally Posted by Amputate Your Head (Post 17451090)

Not really much to go on there since they pled no contest. They gave up without even trying.

As a security guard, I never touched anyone. I observed, and called the cops when I had to. But as private security, I've tossed many. I got out of it because I was tired of guns in my face.

Originally Posted by theking (Post 17451103)

I am satisfied that they gave up on advice of their attorney...as they did not have a legal leg to stand on. When he refused to leave the premises their only legal power was to call the police...once they touched him...they violated the law.

Originally Posted by theking (Post 17451103)

I am satisfied that they gave up on advice of their attorney...as they did not have a legal leg to stand on. When he refused to leave the premises their only legal power was to call the police...once they touched him...they violated the law.

Originally Posted by sicone (Post 17451115)

You should ask for a refund on your law degree...

According to your story, the only time they broke the law was when they continued to be physical with him outside of the bar. While they were still in the bar they are allowed to physically remove any person they want from the premises.

And for all of you woofing about rent-a-cops... perhaps you may want to take a minute and read the news about the incident. The security was a off duty state trooper.

Originally Posted by Amputate Your Head (Post 17451110)

you're not supposed to beat the guy up after you get him out

Originally Posted by Vendzilla (Post 17451197)

I would love to know if that guy is going to sue and how much he will get

Originally Posted by Amputate Your Head (Post 17451050)

ever been kicked out of a bar?

Originally Posted by Bill8 (Post 17451209)

yes, thats the interesting part, the test in civil court.

it will take a while.

it might make a good cause for the tea party, but i think when the party bosses realize that means an official alliance with the larouche, they will pass.

i cant recall, anybody know of similar cases that resulted in civil awards?

Originally Posted by Agent 488 (Post 17451148)

you can use reasonable force to remove someone from a private premises if they refuse to leave. those guards did. nothing will happen to them.

Originally Posted by Vendzilla (Post 17451230)

I ran a bar in LA for a year, you have to be careful when kicking someone out of a bar, you can only use force when they become violent. I had to call the cops on several occasions



Security guards can only defend themselves, he didn't act aggressively. The fact that 2 300lb men was on one 175 old guy, not good. He should sue, they broke a few laws I believe and if he was injured at all.
Since the place had no admition and open to the public, they let him walk in with that, and there was no way he could have concealed that sign, I mean it was like 8 ft long, a good lawyer could get a lot of money by suing the state since it was a state function and they didn't enforce at the gate, but later by wrestling him to the ground.
I don't think the Tea Party will rally behind him, he wasn't part of them, he was part of La Rouche

Originally Posted by theking (Post 17451271)

A person I knew owned a bar and acted as a bartender during the day. A person brought a guitar into his bar and began picking and singing. He told him to knock the noise off but the guy continued picking and singing...he left from behind the bar...with one hand he grabbed the guitar from the guy and with the other hauled him to the door. He pushed the guy out the door and threw the guitar out behind him. The guy fell down when he was pushed and busted his lip open on the concrete.

Twenty or thirty minutes later the cops showed up at the bar...the guy made a citizen's arrest and the cops told the owner to call in a bartender as they were taking him down to be booked on battery charges. At a later point the guy threatened to sue for his doctors bills and damage to his guitar. The owner paid him off without being sued...and the guy also withdrew his citizens arrest.

Originally Posted by ********** (Post 17451160)

Why did you title this post "Obama's Goons"?

Originally Posted by Slutboat (Post 17451519)

Cambaby I bet you can't stand that they can do whatever they want regardless of your pathetic little opinion... right? you mad bro?

Originally Posted by cambaby (Post 17450149)

Obama goons hurt disabled man

Your days are numbered liberals. This man was peacefully demonstrating against Obama and then was tackled, held down, crushed by private security guards(no doubt liberals) at the Alaskan State Fair.

Originally Posted by cambaby (Post 17450520)

Conservatives dont hate you idiot, they love business, they may disagree on a moral level and want to regulate this business(which wouldnt be a bad idea financially) but the liberal politicians will fuck just the same, they dont give a fuck about you. At least with conservatives you know who your customer base is, you think liberals BUY porn? :1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

Originally Posted by nation-x (Post 17451634)

Since the huge majority of "conservatives" identify themselves as Republicans and vote Republican...

Originally Posted by cambaby (Post 17451645)

Oh fucking bullshit, libertarians are conservative, most indepenent voters swing to the right of center which is slightly conservative. Fine I will start labeling every one of you liberals Democrats. You watch way too much Jon Stewart, you do realize its a comedy show dont you? :1orglaugh

Originally Posted by PornAffiliate (Post 17451655)

lol, would be fun to see the crowd have hired a security team of their own!