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Bryan G 08-31-2010 12:30 PM

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Originally Posted by cambaby (Post 17455649)
LOL :1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

Thanks Captain Spell Check!!!!

"Lunatics" Feel better now?

TheDoc 08-31-2010 12:31 PM

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Originally Posted by cambaby (Post 17455659)
Claiming your opponents are dumb is the least intelligent argument, but then coming from someone who bases their decisions and thoughts on pure emotion I would expect nothing less. :thumbsup

If I have any emotion, it's feeling sad for for the statistically uneducated American that line up like sheep to follow an entertainer.

Speaking of stats.... Your daily American reads at a 6-9th grade level, which means they comprehend information at the same level. News once was produced at a 12-15 level, today most stations are 6-10th grade level, with a few reports/reporters that still go up. The majority of people get information at the most basic level, comprehend the information at the most basic level and aren't able to rationalize the full picture even if it's explained to them with pretty pictures and drawings.

Legal documents, lawyers, local laws are written around level 15-25. Government acts, policies, laws, etc are written between levels 35-50+. I don't actually expect the mass majority of people to truly understand this information, and the mass majority don't. They have no choice but to get the information from a 3rd party source.


When I see Beck spewing twisted, backwards, jacked up information that is clearly misguided, incorrect and sometimes pure straight up stupid and then a few 100k people line up to agree with him... I only need to know the stats and look at that rally to understand why America is truly fucked.

quiet 08-31-2010 12:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Agent 488 (Post 17455295)
he's a retard.

/thread.

cambaby 08-31-2010 12:44 PM

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Originally Posted by TheDoc (Post 17455763)
If I have any emotion, it's feeling sad for for the statistically uneducated American that line up like sheep to follow an entertainer.

I agree... I feel pity for those negros, latinos and mutts that follow Obama.

quiet 08-31-2010 12:45 PM

https://youtube.com/watch?v=KZ0mdxXw8Ac

TheDoc 08-31-2010 12:48 PM

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Originally Posted by cambaby (Post 17455814)
I agree... I feel pity for those negros, latinos and mutts that follow Obama.

Sounds like you have a lot of misdirected emotional hate stock piled up probably due to your religious teachings as a child. You can rid yourself of this emotional demon by exposing yourself to a tiny bit of culture in your life.

Vendzilla 08-31-2010 12:54 PM

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Originally Posted by theking (Post 17455653)
I suspect that his followers are on the negative side of the average American's IQ...of which there are tens of millions.

I think the are the average,

dyna mo 08-31-2010 01:01 PM

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Originally Posted by TheDoc (Post 17455763)
If I have any emotion, it's feeling sad for for the statistically uneducated American that line up like sheep to follow an entertainer.

Speaking of stats.... Your daily American reads at a 6-9th grade level, which means they comprehend information at the same level. News once was produced at a 12-15 level, today most stations are 6-10th grade level, with a few reports/reporters that still go up. The majority of people get information at the most basic level, comprehend the information at the most basic level and aren't able to rationalize the full picture even if it's explained to them with pretty pictures and drawings.

Legal documents, lawyers, local laws are written around level 15-25. Government acts, policies, laws, etc are written between levels 35-50+. I don't actually expect the mass majority of people to truly understand this information, and the mass majority don't. They have no choice but to get the information from a 3rd party source.


When I see Beck spewing twisted, backwards, jacked up information that is clearly misguided, incorrect and sometimes pure straight up stupid and then a few 100k people line up to agree with him... I only need to know the stats and look at that rally to understand why America is truly fucked.

don't people do the same with stewart/colbert? or is their audience smarter and know that it's satire?

i did a quick google for more info re: what educational level the news is written at now and historically and could not find anything, where do you get those #s?

:)

cambaby 08-31-2010 01:08 PM

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Originally Posted by TheDoc (Post 17455829)
Sounds like you have a lot of misdirected emotional hate stock piled up probably due to your religious teachings as a child. You can rid yourself of this emotional demon by exposing yourself to a tiny bit of culture in your life.

I am a conservative, we are devoid of emotion. You must be talking from experience.

MrBottomTooth 08-31-2010 01:17 PM

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Originally Posted by cambaby (Post 17455553)
That is a common thing in churches, obviously you atheists would never understand about charity, except giving OTHER peoples money away. :error

I don't consider pedophiles and men who believe in people in the sky to be charity. I regularly give to the cancer society.

Why would I give to the local church? So the local preacher can buy himself a new TV? Give me a break.

SpongeBub 08-31-2010 01:20 PM

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Originally Posted by cambaby (Post 17455703)
The only time I see Jew Stewart is when he is reporting accurate news.... which is never.

Are you really as ignorant as your posts make you appear or is it an act for this board?

TheDoc 08-31-2010 01:23 PM

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Originally Posted by dyna mo (Post 17455880)
don't people do the same with stewart/colbert? or is their audience smarter and know that it's satire?

i did a quick google for more info re: what educational level the news is written at now and historically and could not find anything, where do you get those #s?

:)

Stewart/Colbert are both on a comedy channel, if anyone is getting news from them rather than entertainment, then yes they would fall under the stupid category, for more than one reason.

I don't recall where I got the numbers about the media not producing content at the same level as they once did. However, even if it's still 9th/10th grade that's still greatly below the reading level of laws, acts, gov regs, and so on.

cambaby 08-31-2010 01:30 PM

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Originally Posted by SpongeBub (Post 17455924)
Are you really as ignorant as your posts make you appear or is it an act for this board?

Stating that Jew Stewart does not report accurate news is ignorant? :error

You do realize its a comedy show right? :1orglaugh

cambaby 08-31-2010 01:33 PM

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Originally Posted by MrBottomTooth (Post 17455916)
I don't consider pedophiles and men who believe in people in the sky to be charity. I regularly give to the cancer society.

Why would I give to the local church? So the local preacher can buy himself a new TV? Give me a break.

Yes you give charity to negros too lazy to work they have 12 children and think that "axe" is a inquisitive statement.
And you donate all your money to an organization that believes animals should have more rights than human beings. :1orglaugh

SpongeBub 08-31-2010 01:36 PM

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Originally Posted by cambaby (Post 17455957)
Stating that Jew Stewart does not report accurate news is ignorant? :error

You do realize its a comedy show right? :1orglaugh

I do indeed. But you will hear more truth spoken in one of his segments than you would in a month's worth of Fox news programming. Just because he points out the insanity going on in the modern "conservatist" movement using humour does not make it any less true.

dyna mo 08-31-2010 01:37 PM

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Originally Posted by TheDoc (Post 17455935)
Stewart/Colbert are both on a comedy channel, if anyone is getting news from them rather than entertainment, then yes they would fall under the stupid category, for more than one reason.

I don't recall where I got the numbers about the media not producing content at the same level as they once did. However, even if it's still 9th/10th grade that's still greatly below the reading level of laws, acts, gov regs, and so on.

i don't think the channel is the differentiating factor here. for example, i never watch cnn, but for some reason i tuned into cnn during the world cup soccer finals , they were doing a major cover story on an octopus that predicts the winner of the world cup, that is not news, yet it was on cnn.

see what i am saying? the line between entertainment and news today is blurry. news shows are just as concerned with ratings as the "entertainment" shows.

MrBottomTooth 08-31-2010 01:42 PM

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Originally Posted by cambaby (Post 17455966)
Yes you give charity to negros too lazy to work they have 12 children and think that "axe" is a inquisitive statement.
And you donate all your money to an organization that believes animals should have more rights than human beings. :1orglaugh

What in the fuck are you talking about? For one, I hate animals. The only charity I have donated to is the cancer society. The shit about negros, I have no idea what you are talking about. Bums need to get off their ass and work.

Just because I recognize Beck as a retard and dislike religion doesn't mean I am some sort of socialist.

GotGauge 08-31-2010 02:06 PM

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Originally Posted by TheDoc (Post 17455617)
Because they aren't actually able to comprehend what the present administration is doing, thus watch him to get a skewed view and pure out lies from a person that is on the same mental level as a crazed maniac.

Honestly I believe the current things the administration is doing will have a Huge impact a couple of years down the road. For the good or the bad, we will have to wait and see, I am leaning towards the BAD.

Vendzilla 08-31-2010 02:48 PM

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Originally Posted by TheDoc (Post 17455617)
Because they aren't actually able to comprehend what the present administration is doing, thus watch him to get a skewed view and pure out lies from a person that is on the same mental level as a crazed maniac.

So what are they TRYING to do? Unemployment is worse, the whole economy is in the toilet, it's not about what he's trying to do, it's about what's getting done

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Originally Posted by Bryan G (Post 17455633)
No because the people that follow him are raging lunitics.

So 400k or so raging lunatics were in DC on Saturday?, Not to mention how many people watch his show and listen to his radio show. Is everyone that believes differently from you a lunatic?
If so, you might need to talk to someone.....

theking 08-31-2010 03:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Vendzilla (Post 17456165)
So what are they TRYING to do? Unemployment is worse, the whole economy is in the toilet, it's not about what he's trying to do, it's about what's getting done



So 400k or so raging lunatics were in DC on Saturday?, Not to mention how many people watch his show and listen to his radio show. Is everyone that believes differently from you a lunatic?
If so, you might need to talk to someone.....

In my opinion...which I have stated before...most of those that have lost their jobs will not get those jobs back. As for the economy...it has small growth every quarter...and will stumble along for a few more years.

Neither party is going to stop spending...or increase taxes to pay as they go...and pay down the deficit so ultimately there will be a really bad end...just a question of how many more years we can stumble along.

Beck's followers are not lunatics...but in my opinion they are not very bright...and as I stated I suspect the majority of them are on the negative side of having an average IQ.

TheDoc 08-31-2010 03:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Vendzilla (Post 17456165)
So what are they TRYING to do? Unemployment is worse, the whole economy is in the toilet, it's not about what he's trying to do, it's about what's getting done

The Gov stepping in to correct problems is going to mean more regulations when the problem we're in is largely due to corporate greed.

What he has done is stopped the worst economic drop in history from turning into a depression. With this some growth and stability has returned. Today we're trying to get it growing, more. Not again, not starting over, not stopping a slow down - getting it to grow, more.

Obama, "Well, look, we ? we anticipated that the recovery was slowing. The economy is still growing, but it's not growing as fast as it needs to. I've got things right now in ? before Congress that we should move immediately. And I've said so before I went on vacation, and I'll keep on saying when I ? now that I'm back. We should be passing legislation that helps small businesses get credit, that eliminates capital gains taxes so that they have more incentive to invest right now."

This is what's getting done, exactly what we need... this is how you grow the eco and lower unemployment.

Unless you have something else in mind?

Vendzilla 08-31-2010 03:33 PM

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Originally Posted by theking (Post 17456198)
In my opinion...which I have stated before...most of those that have lost their jobs will not get those jobs back. As for the economy...it has small growth every quarter...and will stumble along for a few more years.

Neither party is going to stop spending...or increase taxes to pay as they go...and pay down the deficit so ultimately there will be a really bad end...just a question of how many more years we can stumble along.

Beck's followers are not lunatics...but in my opinion they are not very bright...and as I stated I suspect the majority of them are on the negative side of having an average IQ.

I think the biggest problem is we hired a lawyer to run our business. Lawyers know nothing about business, they know academia, which doesn't help in the real world. Jobs they can create by limiting trade with giants like China. If labor costs are cheaper in China, then business is going to manufacture from China. The trade deficit is way out of balance and can be controlled, we are about the only country that doesn't, we just buy everything.
Then there is our immigration, we need to change it, when 1 in 12 babies in the US are born to illegal aliens, I think it we need to adopt the immigration policies of countries like Australia or Denmark. Basically, one parent has to be a citizen. And if you want to move there, better have a job waiting for you. Billions are spent by states that could do better spending it on our roads and schools

Vendzilla 08-31-2010 03:48 PM

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Originally Posted by TheDoc (Post 17456249)
The Gov stepping in to correct problems is going to mean more regulations when the problem we're in is largely due to corporate greed.

What he has done is stopped the worst economic drop in history from turning into a depression. With this some growth and stability has returned. Today we're trying to get it growing, more. Not again, not starting over, not stopping a slow down - getting it to grow, more.

Obama, "Well, look, we ? we anticipated that the recovery was slowing. The economy is still growing, but it's not growing as fast as it needs to. I've got things right now in ? before Congress that we should move immediately. And I've said so before I went on vacation, and I'll keep on saying when I ? now that I'm back. We should be passing legislation that helps small businesses get credit, that eliminates capital gains taxes so that they have more incentive to invest right now."

This is what's getting done, exactly what we need... this is how you grow the eco and lower unemployment.

Unless you have something else in mind?


You want a plan, ok
It's been said that every green job replaces 2 regular jobs, so scrap the green approach till things get better

Healthcare law is full of flaws and needs to be scraped till things are better, we can't add entitlements to 30 million people during a recession, that's just fucking stupid

Adding regulations will do nothing to the bank system, and not including Fannie and freddie was stupid. They fucked up, we bailed them out, with the kind of money they made, do you really think it won't happen again?

Immigration needs to be rewritten, one parent has to be American for a baby to become a citizen at birth, just like many other countries. And immigrant have to get a job, or they have to leave, we can't afford them anymore

NAFTA needs to go bye bye and trade with other countries needs to be balanced, US companies can't compete with foreign labor

Balance the budget, if we can't afford the entitlement, it needs to go away, if a government agency needs to trim the fat, so be it. End all wars and pull half of the US bases in foreign countries, hell they always say they don't want us there anyways, we'll pull the bases and they will cry about that, fuck them.


And anytime any money is spent on any project, someone needs to make sure it's worth it

Obama said let a bill pass on it's own merits, lets start doing that.

If any congressmen or senate is ever convicted of fraud, he is sent to prison, not happy acres, they are required to pay into the SSN system and not given any pay after there time in office over time served towards a responsible retirement, with the exception the President and the Vice President.

theking 08-31-2010 03:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Vendzilla (Post 17456268)
I think the biggest problem is we hired a lawyer to run our business. Lawyers know nothing about business, they know academia, which doesn't help in the real world. Jobs they can create by limiting trade with giants like China. If labor costs are cheaper in China, then business is going to manufacture from China. The trade deficit is way out of balance and can be controlled, we are about the only country that doesn't, we just buy everything.
Then there is our immigration, we need to change it, when 1 in 12 babies in the US are born to illegal aliens, I think it we need to adopt the immigration policies of countries like Australia or Denmark. Basically, one parent has to be a citizen. And if you want to move there, better have a job waiting for you. Billions are spent by states that could do better spending it on our roads and schools

I think that of course there are things that can be done...that would help to improve the current situation...but I do not see...on the near horizon or the distant horizon...a Congress and a President working together to improve the current situation. A President has very little domestic power...that lies in the hands of Congress...so even if a great President were to be elected (and I do not know of a single person currently alive that I would consider as being a potentially great President) it still is the 535 members of Congress whose mercy he is at.

In my lifetime...partisanship has always played a role...but they still made some effort to work together for the perceived betterment of the country...but now...from my perspective...it appears to be all about partisanship and the hell with the country.

No matter which of the two major parties fare better in November...and no matter which party elects the next President I do not expect to see any significant improvement for the country...or any significant attempts to change what has been business as usual. It will continue to be business as usual...a trend that has been in play since President Reagan started it off...borrow...and spend...and increase the deficit...as many more years as possible....before the house of cards collapses.

TheDoc 08-31-2010 04:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Vendzilla (Post 17456304)
You want a plan, ok
It's been said that every green job replaces 2 regular jobs, so scrap the green approach till things get better

Healthcare law is full of flaws and needs to be scraped till things are better, we can't add entitlements to 30 million people during a recession, that's just fucking stupid

Adding regulations will do nothing to the bank system, and not including Fannie and freddie was stupid. They fucked up, we bailed them out, with the kind of money they made, do you really think it won't happen again?

Immigration needs to be rewritten, one parent has to be American for a baby to become a citizen at birth, just like many other countries. And immigrant have to get a job, or they have to leave, we can't afford them anymore

NAFTA needs to go bye bye and trade with other countries needs to be balanced, US companies can't compete with foreign labor

Balance the budget, if we can't afford the entitlement, it needs to go away, if a government agency needs to trim the fat, so be it. End all wars and pull half of the US bases in foreign countries, hell they always say they don't want us there anyways, we'll pull the bases and they will cry about that, fuck them.


And anytime any money is spent on any project, someone needs to make sure it's worth it

Obama said let a bill pass on it's own merits, lets start doing that.

If any congressmen or senate is ever convicted of fraud, he is sent to prison, not happy acres, they are required to pay into the SSN system and not given any pay after there time in office over time served towards a responsible retirement, with the exception the President and the Vice President.

Remember, you asked what he was trying to actually improve things...

Green technology is the way to go, if we want to ever be back on top of the economic empire we must set the standard for a technology and create the technology. It's one direction to take, out of many that are being taken.

Healthcare isn't costing us and caring for the health of a nation cares for the stability of a nation in the future.

Yes, more regulation could have been put in, however F&F aren't banks.

Obama recently said, AZ had the right goal in mind, they just took the wrong path. We can't have states/cities making up various regulations for immigration when the fed needs to tackle the issue. Getting that law changed will be like pulling a bears teeth.

No mater who you elect, NAFTA isn't going away and it for sure isn't all bad.

Obama has stated many times they have been and continue to work towards balancing the budget and has made several statements about spending. Which is why the war has a pull out of date in 2011. Realistically, Obama doesn't have the power to close all bases in foreign countries.

More over site means a larger government.

He has passed several bills on his own merits, healthcare anyone? Of course that's the same process Bush used to get the war funding and other crap though.

Being that congressmen/senators would be the one that votes on that, I just don't see it going through.



Most of these things Obama can't actually do... most of these things wouldn't actually grow our economy or add more jobs. A wish list of a perfect Gov that doesn't have all things you don't like, doesn't help our Country.

GotGauge 08-31-2010 04:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Vendzilla (Post 17456304)
You want a plan, ok
It's been said that every green job replaces 2 regular jobs, so scrap the green approach till things get better

Healthcare law is full of flaws and needs to be scraped till things are better, we can't add entitlements to 30 million people during a recession, that's just fucking stupid

Adding regulations will do nothing to the bank system, and not including Fannie and freddie was stupid. They fucked up, we bailed them out, with the kind of money they made, do you really think it won't happen again?

Immigration needs to be rewritten, one parent has to be American for a baby to become a citizen at birth, just like many other countries. And immigrant have to get a job, or they have to leave, we can't afford them anymore

NAFTA needs to go bye bye and trade with other countries needs to be balanced, US companies can't compete with foreign labor

Balance the budget, if we can't afford the entitlement, it needs to go away, if a government agency needs to trim the fat, so be it. End all wars and pull half of the US bases in foreign countries, hell they always say they don't want us there anyways, we'll pull the bases and they will cry about that, fuck them.


And anytime any money is spent on any project, someone needs to make sure it's worth it

Obama said let a bill pass on it's own merits, lets start doing that.

If any congressmen or senate is ever convicted of fraud, he is sent to prison, not happy acres, they are required to pay into the SSN system and not given any pay after there time in office over time served towards a responsible retirement, with the exception the President and the Vice President.

Obama should read this Live Tonight!

uterpie 08-31-2010 04:08 PM

I hate Glenn Beck because he's a secret muslim terrorist racist and he lies about not being born in the US. I never seen his birth certificate.

DaddyHalbucks 08-31-2010 04:08 PM

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Originally Posted by tony299 (Post 17455239)
my problem is people dont see him as an entertainer but as a serious voice of the news.

Glenn Beck is as much an entertainer as your standard university professor.

Beck is serious news. He has a huge team to vet his material and seldom makes factual mistakes.

And, he tackles the stories you don't hear in the lamestream media.

It all makes him the best political commentator --maybe of all time.

TheDoc 08-31-2010 04:12 PM

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Originally Posted by DaddyHalbucks (Post 17456352)
Glenn Beck is as much an entertainer as your standard university professor.

Beck is serious news. He has a huge team to vet his material and seldom makes factual mistakes.

And, he tackles the stories you don't hear in the lamestream media.

It all makes him the best political commentator --maybe of all time.

Hahaha, Beck has about as much substance as your posts on GFY, unless that substance is being full of shit.

DaddyHalbucks 08-31-2010 04:13 PM

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Originally Posted by TheDoc (Post 17456339)
Remember, you asked what he was trying to actually improve things...

Green technology is the way to go, if we want to ever be back on top of the economic empire we must set the standard for a technology and create the technology. It's one direction to take, out of many that are being taken.

Green technology by government mandate has been a failure in Denmark, England, and Spain.

TheDoc 08-31-2010 04:15 PM

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Originally Posted by DaddyHalbucks (Post 17456363)
Green technology by government mandate has been a failure in Denmark, England, and Spain.

But Gov backed rail technology in Spain didn't... just like our Gov backing Internet growth, standards, etc didn't fail in our technology growth last time.

dyna mo 08-31-2010 04:15 PM

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Originally Posted by daddyhalbucks (Post 17456352)
glenn beck is as much an entertainer as your standard university professor.

Beck is serious news. He has a huge team to vet his material and seldom makes factual mistakes.

And, he tackles the stories you don't hear in the lamestream media.

It all makes him the best political commentator --maybe of all time.

bam!!1!!!

TheDoc 08-31-2010 04:16 PM

double post...

TheDoc 08-31-2010 04:19 PM

Technology.... America could easily change the world in Green Technology. Changing the road way to an electric grid with glass.


Vendzilla 08-31-2010 04:22 PM

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Originally Posted by TheDoc (Post 17456339)
Remember, you asked what he was trying to actually improve things...

Green technology is the way to go, if we want to ever be back on top of the economic empire we must set the standard for a technology and create the technology. It's one direction to take, out of many that are being taken.

what so we can get a $41k electric car? Investing it is fine, but if you read how much was spent and what we got out of it, it was done poorly
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Healthcare isn't costing us and caring for the health of a nation cares for the stability of a nation in the future.
LOL, maybe you should read this http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...051104714.html
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Yes, more regulation could have been put in, however F&F aren't banks.
they got bail out, what they are called is doesn't matter, they should have been included
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Obama recently said, AZ had the right goal in mind, they just took the wrong path. We can't have states/cities making up various regulations for immigration when the fed needs to tackle the issue. Getting that law changed will be like pulling a bears teeth.
Still waiting for Obama to do anything about reform? While the ICE agents are turning illegal aliens loose? Yeah, Obama just wants to make them all citizens and not fix anything

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No mater who you elect, NAFTA isn't going away and it for sure isn't all bad.
Even Hilary said it needed to be redone during her campaign


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Obama has stated many times they have been and continue to work towards balancing the budget and has made several statements about spending. Which is why the war has a pull out of date in 2011. Realistically, Obama doesn't have the power to close all bases in foreign countries.
Yes he does, Clinton closed all sorts of bases, as for the rest, he's a fucking politician, he says a lot of things, nothing gets done
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More over site means a larger government.
What over site? When someone wants to pass a bill, they better prove it's going to benefit the American people
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He has passed several bills on his own merits, healthcare anyone? Of course that's the same process Bush used to get the war funding and other crap though.
LOL, Healthcare didn't pass on it's own merits, lots of pork on that baby

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Being that congressmen/senators would be the one that votes on that, I just don't see it going through.
if enough people push it, yes it can


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Most of these things Obama can't actually do... most of these things wouldn't actually grow our economy or add more jobs. A wish list of a perfect Gov that doesn't have all things you don't like, doesn't help our Country.
that's what the politicians want you to believe, but it's not true

slavdogg 08-31-2010 04:41 PM

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Originally Posted by TheDoc (Post 17456375)
Technology.... America could easily change the world in Green Technology. Changing the road way to an electric grid with glass.


ok that was pretty cool
but everything else you post makes you a far left lunatic.

TheDoc 08-31-2010 04:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Vendzilla (Post 17456381)
what so we can get a $41k electric car? Investing it is fine, but if you read how much was spent and what we got out of it, it was done poorly

Roughly 10,000 green technologies in America alone, fastest growing technology, investments, etc. Green schools make more money than non-green schools. Green houses use less resources and can now cost less money. This isn't one thing or one industry or one technology, it's 10,000's of them.

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Originally Posted by Vendzilla (Post 17456381)

Your point was we're in a recession and can't pay for it now. I pointed out we aren't paying for it. And of course it's cost money, healthcare costs this Country billions every year. But it isn't like we're paying for it by taking out more Loans.


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Originally Posted by Vendzilla (Post 17456381)
they got bail out, what they are called is doesn't matter, they should have been included

Well, to be fair it wasn't Obama that bailed them out. And GM didn't get the bank rules either, probably because they aren't a bank. And they all got some regulations, loan %'s, things they can/can't collect.


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Originally Posted by Vendzilla (Post 17456381)
Still waiting for Obama to do anything about reform? While the ICE agents are turning illegal aliens loose? Yeah, Obama just wants to make them all citizens and not fix anything

Even Hilary said it needed to be redone during her campaign

And so has Obama...and no I'm not waiting, I don't expect him to do it this term. ICE has deported more illegals so far this year than under any other President in history.


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Originally Posted by Vendzilla (Post 17456381)
Yes he does, Clinton closed all sorts of bases, as for the rest, he's a fucking politician, he says a lot of things, nothing gets done

Congress reduced the number of military personal, allowing them to close many supply bases. The money was put into military research.


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Originally Posted by Vendzilla (Post 17456381)
What over site? When someone wants to pass a bill, they better prove it's going to benefit the American people

You said... "And anytime any money is spent on any project, someone needs to make sure it's worth it"

That means more Gov growth..more over site.


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Originally Posted by Vendzilla (Post 17456381)
LOL, Healthcare didn't pass on it's own merits, lots of pork on that baby

I thought you meant get it passed... Very few things pass on it's own merits, everyone puts in something or they wont sign it. It's not like Obama adds in the pork, congressmen, etc do.


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Originally Posted by Vendzilla (Post 17456381)
if enough people push it, yes it can

People can push all day, they haven't voted for what the people wanted in 30 years, it isn't going to start now.


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Originally Posted by Vendzilla (Post 17456381)
that's what the politicians want you to believe, but it's not true

I'm not listening to the politicians. Most of what you listed wouldn't help at all simply because the things you listed aren't one way doors of death as you think they are.

TheDoc 08-31-2010 04:47 PM

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Originally Posted by slavdogg (Post 17456419)
ok that was pretty cool
but everything else you post makes you a far left lunatic.

I don't think you could point out what I said that is left, at all.. I'm going to guess and say that's probably because I'm not left or even a registered democrat or really share any of those values. The video is cool though, it's truly one of endless technologies growing in America right now.

dyna mo 08-31-2010 05:13 PM

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Originally Posted by TheDoc (Post 17456375)
Technology.... America could easily change the world in Green Technology. Changing the road way to an electric grid with glass.


i wholeheartedly agree. it will be these sorts of things that are a game changer, we've done it before and will do it again. this solar roadway does have some kinks in it though, even though it solves many problems, including a couple of key components of our decaying infrastructure. and i also don't think we will embrace this sort of thing without being forced to.

BFT3K 08-31-2010 07:08 PM

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Originally Posted by uterpie (Post 17456350)
I hate Glenn Beck because he's a secret muslim terrorist racist and he lies about not being born in the US. I never seen his birth certificate.

:1orglaugh :1orglaugh :1orglaugh

I agree! :thumbsup

BFT3K 08-31-2010 07:10 PM

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Originally Posted by SpongeBub (Post 17455971)
I do indeed. But you will hear more truth spoken in one of his segments than you would in a month's worth of Fox news programming. Just because he points out the insanity going on in the modern "conservatist" movement using humour does not make it any less true.

Amen to that brother! :thumbsup

cambaby 08-31-2010 07:14 PM

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Originally Posted by BFT3K (Post 17456678)
Amen to that brother! :thumbsup

Jew Stewart called... he says the joke is on you.

BFT3K 08-31-2010 07:22 PM

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Originally Posted by cambaby (Post 17456688)
Jew Stewart called... he says the joke is on you.

The biggest douche in the world called. He wants to retire his crown to you.

cambaby 08-31-2010 07:25 PM

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Originally Posted by BFT3K (Post 17456705)
The biggest douche in the world called. He wants to retire his crown to you.

Obama called you?!

BFT3K 08-31-2010 07:37 PM

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Originally Posted by cambaby (Post 17456711)
Obama called you?!

Nope, it was this guy...

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...South_Park.jpg

cambaby 08-31-2010 07:40 PM

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Originally Posted by BFT3K (Post 17456731)
Nope, it was this guy...

Looks just like the real Jew Stewart. :thumbsup

TheStout 09-01-2010 01:42 PM

Glen Beck is a clown...FACT

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/bill-l..._b_698571.html


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