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Robbie 09-04-2010 02:31 AM

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Originally Posted by marketsmart (Post 17466602)
no they are not...

although i support your cause, you obviously have now idea how this works..

your efforts would be better spent producing new content and protecting it... :2 cents:
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No, you're wrong.

I'm currently making a 60/40 split on nailing surfers uploading our stuff. Piracy is turning out to be a nice little revenue stream after all. GroobyBucks and Lightspeed are following in the footsteps of a few others who have now figured out how to put a hurt on it.

I'm the one laughing all the way to the bank. The 60/40 split with the lawyers is nice for me. Way better than watching assholes make 100% with stolen content for damn sure. And it's padding my bank account. :pimp

Dirty Dane 09-04-2010 02:53 AM

That's great Steve. Good luck with it.

SteveLightspeed 09-04-2010 02:59 AM

Thanks everyone for the support.

Steve Lightspeed

Nick_Merlot 09-04-2010 03:08 AM

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Originally Posted by marketsmart (Post 17466635)
wow, you are a narrow minded cunt...

its ok for you to shake your pussy all over the net, but its not ok for prostitution?

get your head out of your ass and the squirrels out of your pussy...

selling sex is selling sex...

quit trying to put your whorish ways on a silver plate..

at the end of the day you are still just a whore, not an actress, not a model, but a whore.. :2 cents:


btw, in case you dont think you are a whore, i will post the definition for you below:


whore (hôr, hr)
n.
1. A prostitute.
2. A person considered sexually promiscuous.
3. A person considered as having compromised principles for personal gain.
intr.v. whored, whor·ing, whores
1. To associate or have sexual relations with prostitutes or a prostitute.
2. To accept payment in exchange for sexual relations.
3. To compromise one's principles for personal gain.



please take note of numbers 3 and 3 and also the fact that you share the same definition as a prostitute...





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:2 cents: :2 cents:



Good luck to the Steves. Somebody needs to pave the way.

punkpred 09-04-2010 03:15 AM

Hats off to Steve!

Tim 09-04-2010 03:35 AM

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topnotch, standup guy 09-04-2010 03:39 AM

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Originally Posted by JaneB (Post 17466613)
Hooker, pimps and johns should all be arrested. The sites and the users should all be busted.:2 cents:

With opinions like that shouldn't you be wearing a Burka, or at the very least covering up the squirrel's tunnel?


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ContentPimp 09-04-2010 03:45 AM

Good luck steve! I hope you go after the tubes as well

Sergio Payingsolutions 09-04-2010 04:08 AM

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Originally Posted by NaughtyRob (Post 17466585)
That is a great idea but isnt it kind of like arresting the "Johns" instead of the hookers and pimps? I mean, the companies that have the sites download sites are the ones that people should be suing right?

That would be all well and good, if the majority of these torrent sites were hosted and run in the confines of the United States. Most of the big ones are run by some crazy foreign bastards who laugh at US law.

While I agree with the people that say nothing will come of this from a legal perspective or monetary perspective it does have value in getting out to the media and to the people that might be thinking of doing the same, rather than doing it currently, to think twice or get sued.

CarlosTheGaucho 09-04-2010 04:16 AM

Sure Supporting Mr. Lightspeed in this case

Interesting discussion :)

Blingbaby 09-04-2010 04:25 AM

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Originally Posted by SteveLightspeed (Post 17466464)
Things are about to get interestinger!

Really? You think you have even a half rat's ass chance of getting anything from this?? :1orglaugh

Blingbaby 09-04-2010 04:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Mutt (Post 17466638)
billion dollar entertainment companies haven't figured out how to protect content from piracy :2 cents:

Looks like a good time to figure it out no? Or is adult industry exempt from progress?

crazytrini85 09-04-2010 04:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Blingbaby (Post 17467372)
Really? You think you have even a half rat's ass chance of getting anything from this?? :1orglaugh

Did you miss what they were doing with Hurt Locker?

Jon Oso 09-04-2010 04:36 AM

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Originally Posted by JaneB (Post 17466613)
johns should be arrested.

Hey now. :disgust

Blingbaby 09-04-2010 04:38 AM

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Originally Posted by ********** (Post 17466986)
I don't fully agree.

While this may be true of some "expert" torrent users who sell or otherwise re distribute what they get, there are a surprising number of people who steal every day without even realizing that its stealing.

I confronted 3 people I know recently. When asked why they downloaded movies, porn etc, one of them said "It's on the Internet, so its free, so its legal". Another said "Why pay $20 a month when I can pay $10.00 a year to pirates?". Another person gleefully goes out of his way to find new hollywood movies online because "The theatres just want to make money from stuff they get for free anyway".

Yes all 3 of them are idiots (I need smarter friends) but none of them think they're stealing. I really hope that Lightspeed's lawsuit scares the shit out of some people.

It won't. If Hollywood can't do it why do you think Steve could? People are fucking serious about this? I'm hearing revenue projections out of this, you are all deep dreaming in a collapsing nightmare. There was a good thought in this thread: deliver superior content and protect it and you'll be ok..

Blingbaby 09-04-2010 04:39 AM

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Originally Posted by crazytrini85 (Post 17467390)
Did you miss what they were doing with Hurt Locker?

Did you miss that any of that had any effect on piracy whatsoever?

SteveLightspeed 09-04-2010 04:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Blingbaby (Post 17467404)
Did you miss that any of that had any effect on piracy whatsoever?

We won't defeat piracy. But if someone buys my site's content, the easy way or the hard way, I'm happy.

Its hard to understand why anyone in our industry is supporting piracy and outright theft. My guess is you don't own any content yourself. :2 cents:

Steve Lightspeed

Blingbaby 09-04-2010 04:53 AM

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Originally Posted by SteveLightspeed (Post 17467412)
We won't defeat piracy. But if someone buys my site's content, the easy way or the hard way, I'm happy.

Its hard to understand why anyone in our industry is supporting piracy and outright theft. My guess is you don't own any content yourself. :2 cents:

Steve Lightspeed

My only point is that I find your approach ineffective. There are any number of content providers, adult or mainstream that find ways within the pirate community that actually seem likely to increase sales - it just requires a little creativity; fighting piracy head on didn't work 200 years ago, it's even less likely to work now..

ottopottomouse 09-04-2010 05:02 AM

Congrats to the lawyers.

If you manage to make something $$$ wise out of it well done but don't expect to have much of an impact on piracy - too many people now don't see sharing something as theft.

crazytrini85 09-04-2010 05:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Blingbaby (Post 17467404)
Did you miss that any of that had any effect on piracy whatsoever?

Your simple mind doesn't see the large picture.

Nevermind. Go back to doing whatever it is you do. Leave the important stuff to people who take action.

cambaby 09-04-2010 05:09 AM

He isnt fighting piracy he is trying to squeeze money out of people since he know they wont buy his content. He isnt planning on actually winning any cases just getting settlements. This is not uncommon in the business world as a matter of fact there are many businesses that exist specifically to do this.

Piracy will continue, sales will diminish if there is no more technological innovation from adult content producers. The days of take pix of a random whore and posting it on the internet for people to see at 29.95 a month are over and they all know it.

Smart move by Steve, he cant possibly fight the big tubes theres no way. :1orglaugh:1orglaugh

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Originally Posted by Blingbaby (Post 17467425)
My only point is that I find your approach ineffective. There are any number of content providers, adult or mainstream that find ways within the pirate community that actually seem likely to increase sales - it just requires a little creativity; fighting piracy head on didn't work 200 years ago, it's even less likely to work now..


crazytrini85 09-04-2010 05:30 AM

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Originally Posted by cambaby (Post 17467457)
he cant possibly fight the big tubes theres no way. :1orglaugh:1orglaugh

Not yet. But that day will come.

scottybuzz 09-04-2010 05:54 AM

Word on surfer boards may spread like wildfire that actually paysites are not just sitting back, may deter some of them into buying. successful or not successful that alone could be worth it.
got to look on the positive side of things here.
Best of luck :)

cambaby 09-04-2010 05:55 AM

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Originally Posted by crazytrini85 (Post 17467498)
Not yet. But that day will come.

By that time they will have flipped their model.

Mark my words you will be paying the big tubes to get your content listed for premium exposure.

JenC 09-04-2010 05:58 AM

That won't even cause a dent in the amount of free porn out there. Why aren't you going after Porn Hub? Are they any better than a torrent site?

Rochard 09-04-2010 06:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Blingbaby (Post 17467403)
It won't. If Hollywood can't do it why do you think Steve could? People are fucking serious about this? I'm hearing revenue projections out of this, you are all deep dreaming in a collapsing nightmare. There was a good thought in this thread: deliver superior content and protect it and you'll be ok..

Clearly you haven't been paying attention. Hollywood is doing exactly this.

The music industry is taking people who downloaded music illegally to court and winning thousands of dollars per case. They don't even take them to court; They just send them a huge itemized bill saying "this is the music you illegally downloaded, this is the website you downloaded it from, and this is day you downloaded it".

The makers of the Hurt Locker are doing the same.

People on the Internet seem to think that they can do whatever they want. The average surfer doesn't understand that every single thing you do on the Internet is tracked a dozen different ways.

crazytrini85 09-04-2010 06:04 AM

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Originally Posted by cambaby (Post 17467543)
By that time they will have flipped their model.

Mark my words you will be paying the big tubes to get your content listed for premium exposure.

When they all have legal content, then there is no problem. If they are legit and simply a traffic source, then that is what they will be. I don't have an issue with "tubes" for the sake of them being tubes. It's the illegal use of everyones videos that I have a problem with.

Dirty Dane 09-04-2010 06:05 AM

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Originally Posted by JenC (Post 17467549)
That won't even cause a dent in the amount of free porn out there. Why aren't you going after Porn Hub? Are they any better than a torrent site?

It's easier to get to pirates at torrents. Just log their IP, get them from ISP, sue them. P2P users are not protected by DCMA. With tubes you'll need help from law enforcements, if you want to log it live.

CarlosTheGaucho 09-04-2010 06:06 AM

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Originally Posted by ottopottomouse (Post 17467440)
Congrats to the lawyers.

If you manage to make something $$$ wise out of it well done but don't expect to have much of an impact on piracy - too many people now don't see sharing something as theft.

I'll message you

scottybuzz 09-04-2010 06:13 AM

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Originally Posted by JenC (Post 17467549)
That won't even cause a dent in the amount of free porn out there. Why aren't you going after Porn Hub? Are they any better than a torrent site?

why do anything in life? why not just sit back and let a giant dildo smash you in the ass?

seriously people, some of the comments in this thread. Users on this board have been moaning for years for programs to do something about the current state of free content, for the big boys to act. Now they are and now people complain.

come on think positive.

ottopottomouse 09-04-2010 06:26 AM

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Originally Posted by CarlosTheGaucho (Post 17467574)
I'll message you

Me or my avatar?

gideongallery 09-04-2010 08:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Dirty Dane (Post 17467570)
It's easier to get to pirates at torrents. Just log their IP, get them from ISP, sue them. P2P users are not protected by DCMA. With tubes you'll need help from law enforcements, if you want to log it live.

you do realize the dcma safe harbor provision was balance to the take down notice rights granted.

dcma doesn't protect anyone, it just enforces a balance for a protection that already exist called fair use

that protection exists for torrenters already

in fact given what steve said about this being contingency based, i will make another prediction

this is going to result in establishment that seeding is fair use (given that fact that you never give away a single working copy, and create #pieces -1 redundant backups before a single working copy is produced)

doing a half assed jobs with these court cases is part of the reason the guys actually having good cases have to jump thru so many hoops before they can get to a judgement.

prediction you guys will be "thanking" steve for making it way harder, to get the pirates.

SteveLightspeed 09-04-2010 08:23 AM

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Originally Posted by SteveLightspeed (Post 17466678)
I'm still waiting for GideonIdiot's armchair legal opinion too, I know he won't be able to resist this one. :1orglaugh

I called it. GideonIdiot has spoken. :1orglaugh :1orglaugh :321GFY

CaptainHowdy 09-04-2010 08:26 AM

Fight the good fight :drinkup...

Dirty Dane 09-04-2010 08:30 AM

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Originally Posted by gideongallery (Post 17467828)
this is going to result in establishment that seeding is fair use (given that fact that you never give away a single working copy, and create #pieces -1 redundant backups before a single working copy is produced)

doing a half assed jobs with these court cases is part of the reason the guys actually having good cases have to jump thru so many hoops before they can get to a judgement.

prediction you guys will be "thanking" steve for making it way harder, to get the pirates.

Tell that to the student who have to pay thousands of dollars for those MP3s. :2 cents:

dyna mo 09-04-2010 08:33 AM

it's more interestinger already!

Robbie 09-04-2010 08:36 AM

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Originally Posted by gideongallery (Post 17467828)
prediction you guys will be "thanking" steve for making it way harder, to get the pirates.

Steve isn't the first to do this...and not the last either. Hustler is already raking in the cash as is a certain big gay producer. As usual, you are wrong gideon.

I'm getting 60% off of settlements now. As Steve put it...if they want MY content, they can pay like everyone else, or do it the hard way. Either way I'm getting paid now, and everyone else is taking the same legal steps. And yes, we are nailing them on actual copyright infringement. I just hope YOU upload one of my vids gideon. I'd love to come after you.

dyna mo 09-04-2010 08:37 AM

wait, i sure hope the word *interestinger* is not considered lightspeed content.

take down take down!

V_RocKs 09-04-2010 08:51 AM

This is why I love Steve. There are a lot of detractors and I have received a lot of shit for backing the guy in the past, but who does the dirty work that needs to get done? Who spends the money to get that work done? Steve!

On a less serious note...

Now I just gotta make sure I set those torrents to stop!

Back to serious...

I love the tranny stuff. No, not the videos - never were my thing. I am talking about the customers that will now be sued in court for distributing tranny content in an illegal fashion. Their families will now know about dad's sick obsession... about juniors Freudian desire to fuck his mommy... AND his daddy!

This brings me back to some hacking stuff I did about ten years ago... really surprised me just how many German's and Frenchmen enjoy trannies and farm sex... Those people really like their farm sex!

DamianJ 09-04-2010 08:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Rochard (Post 17467563)
The music industry is taking people who downloaded music illegally to court and winning thousands of dollars per case.

Actually the RIAA STOPPED attempting to sue the individuals they claim were sharing files, back in 2008 because it was costing too much time and generating a huge loss for them.

http://www.engadget.com/2008/12/19/r...r-music-pirac/

To be clear, this is NOT me being pro-piracy. Only an idiot would be pro-piracy. This is just me stating a fact.


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