If Chris stole your money he would be on a small island right now. Why stay and go to prison when you supposedly have millions at your disposal?

As for Paramount. They are only the distributor of the film. They didn't pay anything and, in fact, they received a payment to distribute the film. So the point of them not making a film they thought would flop isn't correct. They would love everyone to make films so they can rent out sets, cameras, designers, distribution, etc...

whoever controls the funds, they can only be winning from this because of the interest they will be gaining on our millions and millions combined....

It's quite easy to see how and why Mallick would use others money for a film. I mean shit, how risky is a movie? Very. Surely though he wasn't willing to risk a successful company on an indie film? Surely...

Who knows.

Someone track down these douchebags. Too much money to just let go. This guy needs a beating.

http://www.asiandivagirls.com/gfy/ch...ng-mallick.jpg

ADG

more than a beating....no offshore island is going to save him now

Interesting information.

I guess a lot of Dutch folks know who Gregory Elias is:

- current shirt sponsor for soccer club NEC Nijmegen
- the wealthiest man on Curacao
- suspected for tax fraud (Dutch webmasters: search for "De N.V. Patrick Kluivert" on Google for an article from De Volkskrant)

http://www.nytimes.com/2007/02/04/bu.../04amster.html
http://www.expatica.com/nl/finance_b...nds_14039.html
http://www.cnbc.com/id/15840232?play=1&video=1114724581

Also, it is NOT Visa that shut down ePassporte.
It was the St Kitts bank, that asked Visa to suspend the cards due to deficiencies.

From Visa:
So according to Visa the prepaid cardholders are still able to access their funds through SKNA or SKNA’s agent, ePassporte.com.

So if anyone blocked it, it is ePassporte themselves.

Hmmm. It's still not quite a smoking gun, but the info in this thread is starting to concern me.

When did production of MM start? Around the time the bank was incorporated?...

And why hasn't epass disclosed that they've founded a bank? Surely that would make their customers feel more secure?

It's not stealing if you take a loan from a bank you or your buddy owns.

If true, that is the beauty of it all ... well, not beautiful for those of us out of money (me included), but beautiful for the person that set it up. It would just be a loan gone bad...happens all of the time for banks.

I hope it's not the case ... but now that a closely held bank has been unearthed ... it could add up to nothing or be the answer to everything.

Time will tell.

In the meantime we're all speculating because Epass has told us nothing. In fact, a random security blog has given us the info we do know, which is St. Kitts had processing shut down with Visa because they felt something was afoul.

Scary
 

Almost scary to think that if these banks are indeed epass related whats going on? LOL

:thumbsup:thumbsup:thumbsup

Its our skin :(

lol

I got the exact same message in my epass account today. And yes I have also sent the documents before and verified my account.
Does not look good.

This means a few things:

1) By everyone requesting wires from Epass we are actually conducting a run on their own bank. Our funds are not kept in a bank one would recognize as trustworthy, but a bank they can only talk in very very biased tone about. Your money is safe in our pocket. Not some other bank's pocket, but our own bank's pocket. So by taking all the money out we are fucking this bank up and to prevent it from going tits up and all the shit to implode they will delay the wires. After all, how can that be, this is not your local bank you can take a step into in 5 minutes and withdraw everything you have there.

2) Since these people own the bank and own epass and fund shitty movies, then it could be they did secure the loans they took for the movies with bank's assets (read: our assets). After all that's how banks operate. Nothing new. Yet now when shit hit the fan for some reason in St. Kitts they had to announce it, but at the same time can't release the wires because they are being deposited as insurance in order to get their own Hollywood loans. after all... all this money in epass (especially in accounts where it wasn't the last station, like B2B accounts, trading etc) was mostly circling from account to account, from affiliate payments further to programmers, writers, who also had their own online projects and who ordered services from other epass account holders and paid them and so the majority of this money ciccled around the system and never exited. For the most part. The money was at the reach of the owners there in the bank all the time. They only moved the numbers around in our epass accounts, not the actual money. The majority of millions was there all the time, not going anywhere. So... what do you do with all this money in your bank as a bank owner? Jesus you do what every other bank does - you invest it. That's why banks come down if everyone wants to withdraw the money - the majority of the money is never in the bank actually. It's invested. To get it out they have to dump that little part of the investment they have and give you your money. HOWEVER THE SHIT HITS THE FAN IF that investment gets stuck and you have a small tiny private bank we are talking about here, then ouch, we can't give you your money just right now because it's somewhere else and it's stuck there as an investment insurance and we are doing everything possible to get it released... if it only wasn't for this shitty st. kitts bank that cut us off you would never know and we would be able to pay you since you wouldn't all be requesting the money right away and right now and at the worst possible time since the movie didn't make it... well... you do the math...

Yes, but you did selective quoting.

I originally said that in response to the possibility of Paramount have money into Middle Men. I was saying Mallick wouldn't be credited unless he had skin in the gave -- where the money came from is still a mystery but there appear to be a few options, one of which is discussed in this thread.

:2 cents::2 cents:

(I gave you an extra two cents in case you have money tied up in Middle Men. You're welcome!) :1orglaugh

:thumbsup

Epass owner: United International Trust
New Epass bank for wire since a couple of weeks: United International Bank

Good post!

I've always been incredibly impressed with the people of GFY and their ability to figure shit like this out. I hope this whole thing works out for the people who relied heavily on Epassporte. :2 cents:

This all sounds like research that should have been done in the past by people who had tens of thousands of dollars sitting in Epass accounts. :2 cents:

Don't forget that if an investment loses money (like say, totally hypothetically, an investment in a movie that doesn't even come close to breaking even) it won't be possible for a bank to reconcile everyone's balances with liquid funds. At that point it's a little like a pyramid scheme: the early ones to cash out get the $, but the later ones are lucky to get cents in the dollar, if anything.

Of course if the funds have been frozen by an authority then it's more likely that everyone will receive xx% (where xx is less than 100% of their balance)

Ego is a powerful emotion.

this will burst after weekend!

get your wet suit on :helpme

All I can say is this thread rocks, as far as real info goes. It beats all the BS Michael has been shoveling, (not that it is really his fault). How this will finally play out is going to be very intense for sure.:helpme

How do you know he isn't? I could be sitting on Mars and you would never know.

There are other frauding industry folk reading this board right now that have fled the United States in hopes of not being caught. Do you know who they are?

I always thought that Curacao is some drink and now my money is there? That sucks...

Wow...good research from the OP on this.

correction: your money WAS there!

Shoehorn, can you please return any of my messages.

thank you

Oh, well...

Maybe Chris Mallick is trying to make drama and use us to make his co-production film Middle Man more popular. He would like to go in the news and make free commercial for his shitty movie . What do you say Sherlock ?

FAIL! :1orglaugh:1orglaugh
there goes OUR money

I don't really see the problem with this to be honest.

The Netherlands Antilles is one of the places where one can obtain a banking license (easier as in the US for example).
So instead of using a bank they decided to start their own. Paypal has their own bank license as well. It gives great advantages for financial institutions like epassporte.

By the way several banks in the Netherlands Antilles (like the ORCO Bank on Curacao) isn't connected to the international SWIFT system, therefore they use intermediary banks which is quite common actually.

Curaçao is an island in the southern Caribbean Sea, off the Venezuelan coast.
Looks like a beautiful place.
Goodluck.