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JA$ON 09-10-2010 10:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Randy West (Post 17487108)
Someone track down these douchebags. Too much money to just let go. This guy needs a beating.

All the major players behind Ibill have been attending shows for years doing new things, onto projects and businesses that ALOT of the people here do business with, wether they know it or not. Nobody says anything. The reason is the same reason people in the US let the super rich get away with stealing trillions and nobody rises up....Because deep down, 99.999% of people want to be players. Rich, powerful etc. And there is this feeling that someday, somehow "I too" will get too be a member of that club. So people keep their mouths shut because the power and allure of $$ and one day being alowed to play in that sandbox is stonger than the drive to say in person what people have no problem saying on a mess board. :2 cents:

beta-tester 09-10-2010 10:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Captcha (Post 17488747)
again, lawyer time

not yet, not yet... but almost...

directfiesta 09-10-2010 10:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Ethersync (Post 17488633)
It's clear SKNA handles Visa transactions and United has Wallet funds. Here is the problem with your logic: For some mysterious reason, Chris claims to not know, SKNA shut down Visa transactions for ePassporte. One good reason for that would be if there were not enough funds on deposit at SKNA to cover the amount on cardholder Visa accounts. That is obviously something Chris would not want to admit to. Furthermore if United does not have enough funds on deposit to cover what is in cardholder's wallet accounts who is going to shut ePassporte down? Chris? Of course not. If there were not enough funds on deposit with United to cover everyone's Wallet accounts what action might ePassporte/United take? Oh, I don't now... Maybe withhold/delay wire transfers? Maybe this is all wrong, but until we get some real answers from ePassporte (or SKNA) all we can do is speculate.

Bravo ! A perfect analysis of the scenario .... :thumbsup

notime 09-10-2010 11:01 AM

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Originally Posted by SiMpLe (Post 17488447)
Has anyone got a wire from their wallet yet? I'm going on 5 days after my request as of now.

Sean, Brad from Mojohost and 3 others confirmed receiving a wire I read between these million epass posts.
You have his contact info, ask him.

lucPL 09-10-2010 11:05 AM

ok ONE wire went out, fingers crossed for more.

lucPL 09-10-2010 11:06 AM

NO they got ACH not wire

LexiLexxx 09-10-2010 11:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Alprazolam (Post 17488363)
the movie studios will distance themselves even further from the porn industry now. the studio will be embarrassed by this.

mark walberg is lucky he is in so good with HBO or his new show on the porn biz would prob get cut.

Oh, I must have missed that memo! Love me some Mark Walberg.

So, I hope all works out with the epass cash....ekkk! Scary shit, WHY do people put so much time and money into thing's...then get cheap in the end with advertising? :helpme
I see it all the time.... I've only seen a few posts, with the movie trailer. Even if the movie sucked, I bet it would have made more $$$. Some movies do suck, but they still make $$.

poisson 09-10-2010 11:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Ethersync (Post 17488019)
It is also worth noting that ePassporte suggesting people keep money in their wallet accounts makes sense now that we know the bank that handles wallet deposits is more or less owned by ePassporte/Chris Mallick. I think when the dust settles we may find that this ePassporte bank is way over leveraged because of non performing loans to fund various other business Chris Mallick has. I would not be surprised to find personal loans on the books as well. Everyone scrambling to pull money out of their wallets is only going to add to the balance sheet problem. The Visa Electron/Virtual money is likely not even all on deposit with the bank in St. Kitts. That is the only reason I can see them shutting down the cards. What a fucking mess.

:thumbsup :(

Kingfish 09-10-2010 11:13 AM

The really ironic thing if this scenario is true is that webmasters and programs funded the Middle Men advertising on the Tubes.

DWB 09-10-2010 11:18 AM

If you guys did your research BEFORE someone fucked you, the way you do AFTER they fuck you, you'd probably avoid 90% of the fuckings.

Shap 09-10-2010 11:22 AM

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Originally Posted by notime (Post 17488909)
Sean, Brad from Mojohost and 3 others confirmed receiving a wire I read between these million epass posts.
You have his contact info, ask him.

Brad got an ACH

Jdoughs 09-10-2010 11:23 AM

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Originally Posted by DirtyWhiteBoy (Post 17488966)
If you guys did your research BEFORE someone fucked you, the way you do AFTER they fuck you, you'd probably avoid 90% of the fuckings.

Come on now, it's real easy to say this after the fact.

Talk about jumping the bandwagon.

nikki99 09-10-2010 11:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Captcha (Post 17488747)
again, lawyer time

not yet

u never had troubles with your bank yourself?

spazlabz 09-10-2010 11:44 AM

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Originally Posted by McSpike (Post 17487244)
This means a few things:

1) By everyone requesting wires from Epass we are actually conducting a run on their own bank. Our funds are not kept in a bank one would recognize as trustworthy, but a bank they can only talk in very very biased tone about. Your money is safe in our pocket. Not some other bank's pocket, but our own bank's pocket. So by taking all the money out we are fucking this bank up and to prevent it from going tits up and all the shit to implode they will delay the wires. After all, how can that be, this is not your local bank you can take a step into in 5 minutes and withdraw everything you have there.

2) Since these people own the bank and own epass and fund shitty movies, then it could be they did secure the loans they took for the movies with bank's assets (read: our assets). After all that's how banks operate. Nothing new. Yet now when shit hit the fan for some reason in St. Kitts they had to announce it, but at the same time can't release the wires because they are being deposited as insurance in order to get their own Hollywood loans. after all... all this money in epass (especially in accounts where it wasn't the last station, like B2B accounts, trading etc) was mostly circling from account to account, from affiliate payments further to programmers, writers, who also had their own online projects and who ordered services from other epass account holders and paid them and so the majority of this money ciccled around the system and never exited. For the most part. The money was at the reach of the owners there in the bank all the time. They only moved the numbers around in our epass accounts, not the actual money. The majority of millions was there all the time, not going anywhere. So... what do you do with all this money in your bank as a bank owner? Jesus you do what every other bank does - you invest it. That's why banks come down if everyone wants to withdraw the money - the majority of the money is never in the bank actually. It's invested. To get it out they have to dump that little part of the investment they have and give you your money. HOWEVER THE SHIT HITS THE FAN IF that investment gets stuck and you have a small tiny private bank we are talking about here, then ouch, we can't give you your money just right now because it's somewhere else and it's stuck there as an investment insurance and we are doing everything possible to get it released... if it only wasn't for this shitty st. kitts bank that cut us off you would never know and we would be able to pay you since you wouldn't all be requesting the money right away and right now and at the worst possible time since the movie didn't make it... well... you do the math...

yup :thumbsup

SiMpLe 09-10-2010 12:02 PM

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Originally Posted by notime (Post 17488909)
Sean, Brad from Mojohost and 3 others confirmed receiving a wire I read between these million epass posts.
You have his contact info, ask him.

kk thanks :)

SiMpLe 09-10-2010 12:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Shap (Post 17488990)
Brad got an ACH

sigh :disgust

jalami 09-10-2010 12:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Ethersync (Post 17488633)
For some mysterious reason, Chris claims to not know, SKNA shut down Visa transactions for ePassporte. One good reason for that would be if there were not enough funds on deposit at SKNA to cover the amount on cardholder Visa accounts.

It's entirely possible that SKNA did not require the Virtual Visa balances to be 100% funded by deposits with SKNA. After all, every ePassporte user has a daily ATM withdrawal / POS purchase limit. It's likely there would be a daily reconciliation between United and ePassporte's account with SKNA. This also makes sense in light of the fact that daily limits were reduced a few weeks ago. Of course this is pure speculation.

notime 09-10-2010 12:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Shap (Post 17488990)
Brad got an ACH

Is that a check? Not sure what ACh is.

chronig 09-10-2010 12:40 PM

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Originally Posted by nikki99 (Post 17489082)
not yet

u never had troubles with your bank yourself?

nothing to worry about ... you sound just like my friend here that thinks everything will be fine

only difference is she doesn't have a dingaling between her legs

signupdamnit 09-10-2010 12:42 PM

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Originally Posted by notime (Post 17489324)
Is that a check? Not sure what ACh is.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Automated_Clearing_House

Argos88 09-10-2010 12:54 PM

is Saint Kittis and Nevis related to the dutch gov or anything dutch?

Because curacao is...

saint kittis and nevis was english or dutch in the past?

.

notime 09-10-2010 12:54 PM

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Originally Posted by signupdamnit (Post 17489334)

Thanks for this link to explain it to a Dutchie. Much appriciated.

Ethersync 09-10-2010 12:58 PM

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Originally Posted by jalami (Post 17489197)
It's entirely possible that SKNA did not require the Virtual Visa balances to be 100% funded by deposits with SKNA. After all, every ePassporte user has a daily ATM withdrawal / POS purchase limit. It's likely there would be a daily reconciliation between United and ePassporte's account with SKNA. This also makes sense in light of the fact that daily limits were reduced a few weeks ago. Of course this is pure speculation.

I'm sure it is not 100%. It is, and this is only a guess, probably roughly equal to the amount that cardholders can take out (by ATM, card transaction and virtual visa use) over a set period of time. Lowering daily limits a few weeks ago very well could have been an attempt to lower the amount they need to keep on deposit with SKNA because of liquidity problems.

notime 09-10-2010 01:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Argos88 (Post 17489394)
is Saint Kittis and Nevis related to the dutch gov or anything dutch?

Because curacao is...

saint kittis and nevis was english or dutch in the past?

.

Don't think it is Dutch. The name of the bank is not anything I ever saw in Holland.
Curacao was a part of the Dutch Kingdom. That changed recently I believe. So they are no longer under the Dutch flag but still coop with Holland somehow. Google can probably tell you how this works now.

Sly 09-10-2010 01:09 PM

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Originally Posted by DirtyWhiteBoy (Post 17488966)
If you guys did your research BEFORE someone fucked you, the way you do AFTER they fuck you, you'd probably avoid 90% of the fuckings.

Incredible Dollars taught you a pretty good lesson, eh?

borked 09-10-2010 01:11 PM

If I'm not mistaken and all this in this thread is true, it probably is best to have all your money in your visa account and not your wallet account...

At least that cash is probably guaranteed (hence the freeze) by at least St kitts, if not Visa. The money in the ewallet appears guaranteed by no banking regulation...

nikki99 09-10-2010 01:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Sly (Post 17489449)
Incredible Dollars taught you a pretty good lesson, eh?

where is Gleen the boss?, Jail?

uno 09-10-2010 01:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Alprazolam (Post 17487051)
please tell me you are not a math teacher, or planning to be one when you fail at adult internet. :error

want to try again?

:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

I could use a few mg of you.

ladida 09-10-2010 01:57 PM

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Originally Posted by borked (Post 17489457)
If I'm not mistaken and all this in this thread is true, it probably is best to have all your money in your visa account and not your wallet account...

At least that cash is probably guaranteed (hence the freeze) by at least St kitts, if not Visa. The money in the ewallet appears guaranteed by no banking regulation...

Yea, i kind of got the same feeling.

epitome 09-10-2010 02:06 PM

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Originally Posted by borked (Post 17489457)
If I'm not mistaken and all this in this thread is true, it probably is best to have all your money in your visa account and not your wallet account...

At least that cash is probably guaranteed (hence the freeze) by at least St kitts, if not Visa. The money in the ewallet appears guaranteed by no banking regulation...

Which, if true, would mean a man with close ties to a bank (Chris Mallick) gave misleading guidance to its unwitting shareholders.

tiger 09-10-2010 02:15 PM

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Originally Posted by adult-help (Post 17486963)
Time for a brief pause for everybody to calm down and separate FACT (original post) from FICTION (most things subsequently posted).
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epass is fueling this themselves because of those statements they issued which dont tell us anything..

:2 cents::2 cents:

TheSwed 09-10-2010 06:32 PM

very interesting readings in this thread
:thumbsup

gumdrop 09-10-2010 10:25 PM

Very interesting how all these ePass threads are sliding...

gooddomains 09-11-2010 01:17 AM

way too much speculation

rowan 09-11-2010 08:39 PM

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Originally Posted by gooddomains (Post 17491123)
way too much speculation

Bump for more speculation. :winkwink:

BossDVDs 09-13-2010 10:24 AM

Simply Business

gumdrop 09-17-2010 08:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Konda (Post 17486865)
Funny how someone from oxymoronent.com (= Oxymoron Entertainment / Middlemen) informs ePassporte customers about their new wire info to United International Bank

Hey Konda,

I betcha Krebs would be interested in that email:

http://krebsonsecurity.com/2010/09/f...porte-edition/

Either he's been reading what's here or just came up with the same conclusion.

sgreen 09-17-2010 08:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Psychosis (Post 17497639)
2 weeks later and nobody has confirmed to receive a wire yet. Yup keep dreaming boys. Tomorrow tomorrow I'm sure it will come :)

Yes they bloody well have!! there are hundreds of people who have confirmed they have received them, I know 2 people personally who have received theirs. I haven't received anything myself because my funds were in VV.

Matyko 09-17-2010 08:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Sly (Post 17489449)
Incredible Dollars taught you a pretty good lesson, eh?

:party-smi

Chris 09-17-2010 09:03 AM

so .... was the movie any good?


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