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I've also always wondered why, with so many sponsors with the $100 minimum payout, you end up getting to 85-95 dollars ... THEN NADA for months on end. :(
You wouldn't think it's possible that because you aren't a WHALE in sending hits their plan is to keep the 85-95 dollars and then some how, with a fancy script, re-direct your traffic to a 'we're selling hits - just name your fetish' - only 1.00 per 1000. Been my suspicion for a few years. :mad: |
The car business in the usa there were originally has 200 companies building cars in America.Now there are three. Also it seems alot of the sponsors that went bye were in the card banging biz not the porn biz.
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and i made millions and millions on exclusive video content. first you get the traffic, then you get the content. then you make the money. then you get the girl.
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.XXX passing and having to pay $60 per domain for the pleasure of being "responsible."
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Adult has a bright future. Just not for a lot of the folks in it today :2 cents: |
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The world has been ending since it began, you have been dieing since you were born !
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I'm doing awesome. Sign ups are steady, rebills are good. I love 2010!
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well here is a reality check..
the general economy and business has improved over last year and is improving as we speak. however adult is a different animal altogether, Shap mentions a turning point, which i think is very optimistic, i doubt there is a turning point... it is a slide. look at it this way, those who got into adult in 2001 had huge opportunities, made loads of bank, those who got in in 2006 still had very good money making opportunities, and even in 2010 it is easier to make money in adult compared to any other (legal) industry. If the adult community cant get together and control the content/piracy/free content then in a few years the industry will consist of perhaps 3 or 4 very large entities and i dont believe they will give a shit about affiliates... |
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Governments are going after offshore, tax evasion, anonymous debitcards/creditcards. So they MAKE Visa and banks do shit like this most likely. Netherlands in on USA's whitelist. Curacao in Dutch Antilles is now independant.... Fortis (a former Belgian bank) will merge this weekend with ABNAMRO bank. ABNAMRO is owned by the Dutch government. Holland have a tax treaty with USA and EU governments agreed to give all bank info to US that they request. ACTA is being build by 20+ goverments to come up with new laws for the internet and how to regulate it better and tax it. Now everyone will give their bank details and passports and money will arrive thru banks because people are scared and react in fear. Goverments ask banks to report any wires coming in from epass. Bingo. Hope I am wrong. |
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I guess I could say as far as the payout method is concerned, I live in the US. So I get checks and deposit them. I would never rely on an outside system like epass to get my money. Just by reading this board for the last few years I see a lot of the bad comes from these financial companies.
As far as sponsors are concerned. You do have to test the waters with sponsors to see how your traffic is working, but I think people should try to stick with a smaller base of companies that have been around for a while and pay all the time (not including CCBill sponsors). It costs more money now to start a new business and run it then it ever has in the past. Companies who have been around for longer already have there investments covered. But I guess at the rate things are going now, you never know who is going to close shop. I know as long as I keep building more sites and putting more content out there. My traffic will still grow and no matter what. Traffic is still king. You may night be getting as many paysite affiliate sales. But you do have the traffic and have to find other way to monetize it. |
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"recent events" has prevented people from going forward. I see a huge purge of people from this industry over the nxt couple years, which will be good for those of us who stick it out. Shap, you are pretty well insulated with your good tube names/sites. You have in house traffic and can sell ads, promote your own sites, be a cams and dating affiliate etc... with little to no cost to you. 9 out of 10 other companies don't have that, if you see how your income sales are going, most other companies are 10x worst off. Rename the porn business to " the last man standing ". |
This is why I do not believe the answer is in traffic.
Getting traffic has nearly always meant putting up more free content. Now we are competing with 10 or so major Tubes giving away full scenes. To compete at that level are we to give away even more free full length scenes? If your only answer is yes, you're running into a brick wall. Because one of the reasons sales are falling is TOO MUCH free content on the Internet. Adding to it will mean the surfer has even more options to NOT BUY. We need to convert more of the traffic we have, not give the surfer less reasons to buy. |
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Homegrown Video's loves amateur porn and this sagely chinese proverb
"There is great chaos underneath the Heavens and opportunities abound" - think that one was a Lao Tzu nugget but my memory may fail me there
And Sun Tzu offered this choice one... "Victory is living long enough to see the bodies of your enemies floating by in the river" Shap - please email me when you have a chance, timlake a homgrownvideo d com. |
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I don't mind the shrinking of the affiliate industry, really. I don't get as much writing work, but the people I get it from are the people who really stick with it and are doing well. It's nice because the people I'm writing for know what they are doing and what they want, which makes my life much easier :)
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Oddly enough I think the sponsor pool is shrinking much faster than the affiliate pool is.
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More Lao Tzu... ?Be careful what you water your dreams with. Water them with worry and fear and you will produce weeds that choke the life from your dream. Water them with optimism and solutions and you will cultivate success. Always be on the lookout for ways to turn a problem into an opportunity for success. Always be on the lookout for ways to nurture your dream.? |
I think it's time to take a step back and look to old school. Although 90% of my banks haven't had issues, it's clear the 'offshore' banks are double dealing and Visa is pounding them hard for it. Quite frankly they (the bank's) should and DO know better, they're just straight up greedy.
anyhooo, having said that, there are still some very solid solutions available (and will continue to be available) outside the current & forcasted storms. just my years of dealing with international banks speaking : ) |
Hope and change.
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homegrown video, sex is food people have to eat
Lao Tzu just tends to have the best stuff for these occassions... "As the soft yield of water cleaves obstinate stone, So to yield with life solves the insolvable: To yield, I have learned, is to come back again"
As of today, that is going to become a Homegrown Video company mantra, along with "sex is food, people have to eat" which I came up with on my own. To follow that food analogy, look at grocers, which used to be largely mom and pop establishments but that has long ago given way to large controlling brand conscious supermarkets... and small niche specialty shops. If any of you think making a living on the margins left in adult is difficult you should look at how slim the margins are in the grocery business. |
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lol what a depressing thread ..... makes me laugh but sad at same time <sigh>
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I think this year will clearly show who is surviving paycheck to paycheck and who has retained earnings that can absorb some large hits like we've been seeing. Good luck to all our survival!
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I would love to see what the results of these kind of threads would be for other industries.
And I Wouldn't mind putting money on the fact that almost every business in the world is shitting itself right now. The world has never seen such a big rise in the economy and such a big fall in this small space of time. I would say we are going through a period of calm and things will gradually continue upwards afterwards. Stay put and be reserved. |
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