Originally Posted by Vjo (Post 17490658)

I am so certain of the viability of the Epass Wallet for someone in the US that I would transfer money to the wallet no prob or be paid thru the wallet no prob from anywhere.

If it gets to my wallet. I know I can get it via ACH.

So altho things are more shakey for those outside the US right now, sponsors dont completly write off epass esp for us in the US.

Some sponsors are leaving it up to the wm. That seems like a good way. If the wm takes the risk and if you are also in the US it should still be a viable way to pay wms.

ACH seems pretty solid.

Originally Posted by Vjo (Post 17490658)

I am so certain of the viability of the Epass Wallet for someone in the US that I would transfer money to the wallet no prob or be paid thru the wallet no prob from anywhere.

If it gets to my wallet. I know I can get it via ACH.

So altho things are more shakey for those outside the US right now, sponsors dont completly write off epass esp for us in the US.

Some sponsors are leaving it up to the wm. That seems like a good way. If the wm takes the risk and if you are also in the US it should still be a viable way to pay wms.

ACH seems pretty solid.

Originally Posted by Atticus (Post 17490672)

Pure speculation but...

An ACH is coming from one US account to another. Those funds are not frozen. What happens when those funds become limited?

Again, I dont have any knowledge of their inner workings but it seems pretty obvious that the funds being received via ACH are originating from a different US based account, not tha bank account(s) affected in St Kitts.

Originally Posted by lagcam (Post 17490696)

"Past results are no guarantee of future performance".

Strangely, the same goes for overly pro-epassporte statements by key industry figures.

Whilst we all have our own degrees of confidence or otherwise in the situation being satisfactorily resolved for all, these are our OWN opinions and people should treat them as such but people like Shap who is considered very knowledgeable and respected in this industry, is an AUTHORITY FIGURE and as such should IN MY OPINION be especially careful how endorsing he is.

Nothwithstanding the fact that most people noticed that whilst patting Chris Mallick on the back with one hand, the other hand was busy withdrawing his own cash.

Anyway, not knocking Shap. Not knocking epassporte. Just making a personal observation.

Originally Posted by KarupLou (Post 17490741)

Congrats Shap! I spoke to Chris earlier via text message earlier and it's definitely on it's way :). He just needed time which of course not many people have the respect or patience to give him on this board but whatever to each his own opinion I guess so I'll leave my opinion too. Chris is as stand up of a guy as they come. I don't care if u believe it or not but he is. What's the worst case scenario for me here? That U will flame me for my 250 post count Lmfao! Shap u r my boy from the earliest of days in this biz and a complete class act thru and thru. And Chris Mallick u r my boy for life. Handle your biz my friend. Don't let these guys stop u from doing what u gotta do. They don't know and will never know what kind of person u r even after they get paid which is sad but that's the way life is so I get that. Chris Mallick is the man! He escrowed all 20 million plus advertising money of the middlemen movie money 3 years b4 any of u on GFY ever even heard of Middlemen so he didn't use your funds to produce the movie. Give the man some time and a chance to do right by u. I'm confidant he won't disappoint any of u. That's my thoughts take it or leave it. Flat out!

Originally Posted by KarupLou (Post 17490741)

Congrats Shap! I spoke to Chris earlier via text message earlier and it's definitely on it's way :). He just needed time which of course not many people have the respect or patience to give him on this board but whatever to each his own opinion I guess so I'll leave my opinion too. Chris is as stand up of a guy as they come. I don't care if u believe it or not but he is. What's the worst case scenario for me here? That U will flame me for my 250 post count Lmfao! Shap u r my boy from the earliest of days in this biz and a complete class act thru and thru. And Chris Mallick u r my boy for life. Handle your biz my friend. Don't let these guys stop u from doing what u gotta do. They don't know and will never know what kind of person u r even after they get paid which is sad but that's the way life is so I get that. Chris Mallick is the man! He escrowed all 20 million plus advertising money of the middlemen movie money 3 years b4 any of u on GFY ever even heard of Middlemen so he didn't use your funds to produce the movie. Give the man some time and a chance to do right by u. I'm confidant he won't disappoint any of u. That's my thoughts take it or leave it. Flat out!

Originally Posted by KarupLou (Post 17490795)

Gleem I had very little money in epass at the time this all went down so I didn't have any money to lose or gain. I simply believe in Chris. And I truly feel bad for the people affected by this. I'm a very generous and compassionate person. All I'm asking give him some time to work things out. He's doing his best to get things righted asap. Things have gone smooth for years and now things get messed up for him and everyone else all without warning. Just allow him the chance to make it right before lynching him. That's all im saying. He dont have a bro network. 1 dollar or 1 million owed is the same to him. Please just give him a chance is all im saying. I have respect for most people here and I don't post much but just allow him the chance and opportunity to get u guys straightened out. Don't judge him by other companies actions. I know companies have fucked ppl in the past including myself and my partners. It's happened twice to us by DMR and then WTS. So I feel the pain and I'm concerned for everyone affected but please just let him have a chance to work it out.

Originally Posted by BVF (Post 17490782)

a notification of cash ACTUALLY being in the account would easily shut the haters up....Why start this whole thread based on a NOTIFICATION?....Why make a thread saying "wire sent", when he SHOULD be making a thread called "wire RECEIVED".

Originally Posted by Shap (Post 17490382)

Hey Guys. I?ve been in constant contact with my rep (as well as a few other people) at Epassporte. Personally, the biggest thing I?ve been waiting to see is when wires would start being sent out. In my opinion that is the first step in the right direction. Today I heard one of my two wire requests was approved and sent. I have yet to receive it and as soon as I do I will update everyone. I believe this is the first step in the right direction.

I just wanted to add two things for you guys to think about.

First.. I?ve said this before and I think it?s worth repeating. This industry has had it?s fair share of companies that have gone under and disappeared with people?s money. Chris has been involved in a few situations where his companies ran into difficulties but EVERY single time those companies survived and paid everybody every single penny that was owed. I have never heard of a single person that Chris Mallick has screwed over. You may not like the guy but everything I?ve ever read shows that in a situation like this you WANT Chris Mallick involved. He?s our best chance at survival and getting paid. He fights his ass off and does whatever possible to make sure his clients get paid. That is huge in my opinion.

Second... You guys have to remember the people at Epassporte are human, they can read, and they have good memories. If you treat them like shit and rip them to shreds you can be DAMN sure it isn?t doing you any favors. I?ve seen this in the past. People that attack and try to bury a company usually get fucked the hardest. Those that are supportive and hopeful are usually the first to get paid. It?s human nature. Put yourself in their shoes. If you had 10 people that were supportive and 10 people that were real assholes. Who would you pay first? Might want to consider that before making your next post.

To those of you that think MiddleMen caused this. Are you kidding? Do you know how hollywood works? That movie started 3 years ago. He had all the money put aside in escrow back then. You think the big name stars he had would show up for a nobody if the money wasn?t guaranteed? Come on. The timing is ironic but that?s all it is.

All in all I think this is a step in the right direction. I?ve done a lot of research this week. I?ve made a lot of phone calls. There has been a lot of information posted that really makes the situation look bad. I?ll be honest I?ve been worried. But for every bad thing I?ve seen posted I?ve heard a good thing from people with some REAL knowledge of what?s going on. Obviously nobody is saying it publically because if it turns out to not be true the mob will turn their attention towards them. That said I think with funds starting to be released people should tone it down a little. People reporting this to the news, calling the feds etc is retarded. Have you read the posts on here this week? There are some great posts and some intelligent people HOWEVER for every great post there are 10 retarded ones. Our industry is under enough stress as it is. We don?t need any more.

Give the man time. If the wires went out today it?s a huge step and shows Epassporte is far from dead. Supporting them gives us a better shot of getting paid than attacking them.

Originally Posted by Shap (Post 17487951)

2010 has been really crazy. I knew things would be rough but I don't think anybody expected things to get as crazy and bad as they have.

Money that is earned and owed is VANISHING in thin air.
- Sponsors are closing up shop and not paying out the last amounts owed.
- Webmaster Checks gets accounts frozen. Sponsors still have not received a penny of their own money back from Webmaster Checks.
- Epassorte

Before this Epass situation I had already been screwed for more in 2010 than all of my 14 years in adult COMBINED! This shit is crazy and I know it's only the tip of the iceberg. We are nowhere near the turning point imo.

I'm taking this epassporte situation as a HUGE Wake Up Call. We run a tight ship here but I'm going to tighten things up even more. Going to really be careful with who I do business with and that includes sponsors, affiliates, billers, whatever.

Have recent events changed how you are going to run your business moving forward?

Originally Posted by camchoice (Post 17490828)

I really can't believe epassporte would bother to send bogus emails to shut up the haters on gfy. Wire received will be next :thumbsup

Originally Posted by KarupLou (Post 17490741)

Congrats Shap! I spoke to Chris earlier via text message earlier and it's definitely on it's way :). He just needed time which of course not many people have the respect or patience to give him on this board but whatever to each his own opinion I guess so I'll leave my opinion too. Chris is as stand up of a guy as they come. I don't care if u believe it or not but he is. What's the worst case scenario for me here? That U will flame me for my 250 post count Lmfao! Shap u r my boy from the earliest of days in this biz and a complete class act thru and thru. And Chris Mallick u r my boy for life. Handle your biz my friend. Don't let these guys stop u from doing what u gotta do. They don't know and will never know what kind of person u r even after they get paid which is sad but that's the way life is so I get that. Chris Mallick is the man! He escrowed all 20 million plus advertising money of the middlemen movie money 3 years b4 any of u on GFY ever even heard of Middlemen so he didn't use your funds to produce the movie. Give the man some time and a chance to do right by u. I'm confidant he won't disappoint any of u. That's my thoughts take it or leave it. Flat out!

Originally Posted by sologirlcontent (Post 17490834)

12 hours earlier..............


....nuff said

Originally Posted by BVF (Post 17490782)

a notification of cash ACTUALLY being in the account would easily shut the haters up....Why start this whole thread based on a NOTIFICATION?....Why make a thread saying "wire sent", when he SHOULD be making a thread called "wire RECEIVED".

Originally Posted by xxweekxx (Post 17490845)

haha i know its fucking comedy.. he is saying give epass a chance, yet he is taking his money.lol

if epass is good why dont you fund your wallet??

haha shit is comedy... on one breath some people are saying how chris M is a good dude, yet in the backend they requested a wire for their entire balance. lols

Originally Posted by TurboAngel (Post 17490554)

I'll be happy when someone tells us the $$ hit the bank.

Originally Posted by Shap (Post 17490382)

Hey Guys. I?ve been in constant contact with my rep (as well as a few other people) at Epassporte. Personally, the biggest thing I?ve been waiting to see is when wires would start being sent out. In my opinion that is the first step in the right direction. Today I heard one of my two wire requests was approved and sent. I have yet to receive it and as soon as I do I will update everyone. I believe this is the first step in the right direction.

I just wanted to add two things for you guys to think about.

First.. I?ve said this before and I think it?s worth repeating. This industry has had it?s fair share of companies that have gone under and disappeared with people?s money. Chris has been involved in a few situations where his companies ran into difficulties but EVERY single time those companies survived and paid everybody every single penny that was owed. I have never heard of a single person that Chris Mallick has screwed over. You may not like the guy but everything I?ve ever read shows that in a situation like this you WANT Chris Mallick involved. He?s our best chance at survival and getting paid. He fights his ass off and does whatever possible to make sure his clients get paid. That is huge in my opinion.

Second... You guys have to remember the people at Epassporte are human, they can read, and they have good memories. If you treat them like shit and rip them to shreds you can be DAMN sure it isn?t doing you any favors. I?ve seen this in the past. People that attack and try to bury a company usually get fucked the hardest. Those that are supportive and hopeful are usually the first to get paid. It?s human nature. Put yourself in their shoes. If you had 10 people that were supportive and 10 people that were real assholes. Who would you pay first? Might want to consider that before making your next post.

To those of you that think MiddleMen caused this. Are you kidding? Do you know how hollywood works? That movie started 3 years ago. He had all the money put aside in escrow back then. You think the big name stars he had would show up for a nobody if the money wasn?t guaranteed? Come on. The timing is ironic but that?s all it is.

All in all I think this is a step in the right direction. I?ve done a lot of research this week. I?ve made a lot of phone calls. There has been a lot of information posted that really makes the situation look bad. I?ll be honest I?ve been worried. But for every bad thing I?ve seen posted I?ve heard a good thing from people with some REAL knowledge of what?s going on. Obviously nobody is saying it publically because if it turns out to not be true the mob will turn their attention towards them. That said I think with funds starting to be released people should tone it down a little. People reporting this to the news, calling the feds etc is retarded. Have you read the posts on here this week? There are some great posts and some intelligent people HOWEVER for every great post there are 10 retarded ones. Our industry is under enough stress as it is. We don?t need any more.

Give the man time. If the wires went out today it?s a huge step and shows Epassporte is far from dead. Supporting them gives us a better shot of getting paid than attacking them.

Originally Posted by Shap (Post 17490382)

To those of you that think MiddleMen caused this. Are you kidding? Do you know how hollywood works? That movie started 3 years ago. He had all the money put aside in escrow back then. You think the big name stars he had would show up for a nobody if the money wasn?t guaranteed? Come on. The timing is ironic but that?s all it is.

Originally Posted by haissem-o (Post 17490837)

thanks for sharing the good news :)

Originally Posted by MisterPeabody (Post 17491090)

When Shap says "Wire RECEIVED, money RECEIVED" then I will believe it. Til then: bullshit.

Originally Posted by will76 (Post 17490995)

Shap as always been that way... it wasn't as bad as 12 hours but in the past he has gone from one extreme to another on topics more than a few times. Anyone remember cross sales ?





Yeah no shit. "wire being sent" couldn't they be lieing or another excuse be made tomorrow or the next day about some other hold ups, backups or whatever. Point is that you have to trust that they are telling "wire being sent" is true. But all along he said your money was safe in the wallet and that the wires would be going out" why weren't you so trusting then and writing to the mob, trolls, haters, to settle down and give it time. Either way it's just words that you need to trust them untill you actually see the cash arrive.

Originally Posted by lucPL (Post 17491243)

ok i believe this is a good news but i hope that not only "bro's" will be paid

because so far only large players are getting their wires

Originally Posted by sologirlcontent (Post 17491874)

and remember the REASON THE BANK HAD VISA TURNED OFF....
"deficiencies"


de·fi·cien·cy

1.
the state of being deficient; lack; incompleteness; insufficiency.
2.
the amount lacked; a deficit.


—Synonyms
1. shortage, inadequacy, paucity, scarcity.


Not doubt in my mind that the 1st payment for Middlemen loan was due 30 days after it's AUG 6th release...where was Epass on Sept 6th...feeding all you a plate of bullshit, so they can sit on money ,possible get some interest and make a payment on that 20-30million bomb ..or even see if bankruptcy is an option, which actually looks a whole lot better as the days go by without Epass making any money.

Guys no need to get happy for a few wallet wires to go out ( it's your money to begin with) but Im sure you have ALOT more tied up in VV