I know man, and I hope everyone gets their money back. I just wished someone...anyone on both side would give straight answers that made sense..I do hope you get 100% of your money as well as everyone on here, big and small. Keep us updated..but let me add..

This problem with Epass will put the company under, if it isn't already under...everyone is TAKING their money..but NO ONE is putting money back in...no biz can survive NONE

No it doesn't take 7-10, I've had wires hit from overseas in less than 2-3 days (banking days).

We all love Shap, major respect bro - but when you get your money on "Tuesday or Wednesday" THEN come on GFY and dance, defend, celebrate and give hope. Til then dude: smoke up ass. :)

I am going to skip the rest of this thread, because it is just not worth my time.

You know even if he pays you, and fucks everyone else. He's still ripped everyone off. I only say this because it appears that although THOUSANDS of people can't get their money, you seem to be getting yours, and to you it seems to means everything is all right.

I guess all we can do is wait for another 'official' announcement on some random porn webmaster board from Michael but wrote by one of Chris's 3rd world employees.

It's fucking disgusting that he would talk about sending your wire out with someone not involved (KarupLou I think) but still not have the balls to make a public statement.

So it's all good for him to answer texts, and assure his friends at Karups that they sent Shap's wire, so all is good. But he can't address his thousands of card holders.


Shap, one question, if Twisty's shut down tomorrow because of bank or visa issues, would you refuse to make a statement and leave everyone in the dark for weeks?

Would you send an affiliate rep or customer service rep to Go Fuck Yourself to make your corporate announcement? Would you want us to believe that after 7-8 days of sitting around, that you would still not 'know' why or how it happened? You would know REAL fast I have no doubts, you're on top of your shit, as supposedly Chris always was.

Seriously, ask yourself some of these questions. I suspect tonite and tomorrow you will start to see many "Chris Mallick (Epassporte) is a fucking scammer" threads. And whats fucked about it all, is that there is ENOUGH proof to do it.

Falls off the earth and thousands of webmasters lose millions of dollars with NO answer. ANY other person, ANY other company would be wrote off as a complete scam 7 days ago.

hei shap man, fuck off ok? i hardly seen such a whore with big mouth in this bussiness like you are shap. why? because you actually think now, that if YOU got you money, things are solved for everybody? well guess what, no they are not. many people are afected big times by the fact that programs dont accept epassporte anymore.

so now, you received your money and i think you took a deep breath. if you are so optimistic why were you the first that stoped paying by epass man?

If I had a crisis I'd be here facing the music answering questions and driving my lawyers insane (by not listening to their recommendation i stfu). But that doesn't make it right. That is just who I am.

My guess is by Wednesday there will be 5 to 20 people reporting theyve received a wire.

I never said everything is all right. People really jump to conclusions. I've said over and over it is a step in the right direction.

Agreed, and I don't know you at all but I figured that is exactly what you would do. Any businessman in love with his company/job/life would do so.

This is the part I have the most issues with.

Wonderful, now the entire gang can hoist Chris up in the air as a hero. I mean, once you get the wire, everything is perfect! Everything is fine! Everything is AOK.

As for those silly Virtual Visa people with millions in the accounts FROZEN with ZERO word on when, IF EVER that money will be available, and NO POSSIBLE way to request the money your post just digs the knife in deeper.

I thought people were waiting to receive their money not being told that the wires are going out... huge difference between the two imo. One the money is in your pocket, the other is just more lip service until proven other wise. Looks like you jumped the gun on this one, boy would you look silly if that wire never happens.

lol Wow. I said it's a good start and you take it to this extreme? Ok.

You know what. Everybody who requested a wire last week was waiting for that notification yesterday. It's a start and finally some potentially good news.

I would say you are right on the money with that statement..

I know. I'm a lawyer's worst nightmare. I can't bite my tongue. I've thought about it all week and thought man if I were Chris i'd be doing x y z. But you know that's just me and the reality is if he would have sat here and replied to people he wouldn't be any further ahead in solving his situation. He would have taken time and energy away from solving the problem. He would have probably become more aggravated and far less motivated to help people here out. No matter what he'd say a % of people would have been happy and a larger percent would have crucified him and been relentless until he left.

Received? Sorry your reading comprehension needs some work :1orglaugh

NO, the people who requested a wire Friday (8 days ago) was told the wires would be going out last Tuesday. They were waiting to receive their money last Tuesday not be told a week later "now its going out".

What they are really waiting on is to receive their money, not what some reps or customer service people are telling them. Where is the big boss? Why isn't he the one telling people what is going on? Why is he having other people write his shitty press releases???

I hope your wires goes through, I hope everyone's wire goes through. Don't forget how many times those fine people at ibill told everyone they would get paid, and a few people did actually get paid but 99% didn't get shit just lies.

I still have my ibill stock bullshit, anyone want to buy $30,000 of worthless paper ?

You know I really feel like saying and posting "FUCK YOU guys. I'm going to get my money and the rest of you can go fuck yourselves."

The reality is I think there are some really good people that really just want to get real updates and are interested to hear if I (and others) actually receive a wire next week. If I'm wrong let me know. I'll gladly go away.

The only reason you will get paid Shap is cause you got the cash to actually sue him to hell and back...I think they will pay the rollers and fuck the small webmasters in the ass, mainly cause the small webmasters will never never never join as a group and sue.

Same shit with content thiefs...they know this and keep on stealing from the little people..

This is the situation. People who requested a wire were told they wires SHOULD go out Tuesday/Wednesday. That they were waiting to hear from accounting. NO FORMAL notification went out and no wires went out.

Yesterday FORMAL notifications finally went out. BIG BIG DIFFERENCE.

After a week plus of this shit a "real update" would be " I received my wire, the money is back in my bank"

posting that they told you the wire was going to be sent and that you have to wait another 4-5 days to get it is just more lip service until proven otherwise. Not to mention all of the other ass kissing, you never doubted them, Chris is top notch, blah blah bull shit along with your "real update".

You know what man I can't argue with you there. That's very possible.

all i have to say is :1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh anyway you want to slice it... "Formal".

I'm sorry, i didn't know you just got the "formal" notification opposed to the non formal one that was made over a week ago. Silly me. :upsidedow:upsidedow:upsidedow:upsidedow:upsidedow :upsidedow:upsidedow:upsidedow

Dude don't twist my words. Where did I say I never doubted them? Dude I'm full of doubt. My other thread shows that exactly. I doubt everyone in this industry right now. What I did say is when in doubt and when in a major crisis it's probably a good thing to have someone who's been through it and survived in charge.

never said chris is top notch either. Don't twist words when it's not necessary. I post enough stuff you guys can pick apart without twisting my words.

You've obviously never requested a wire with them or you'd know the difference.

Agreed but in the lack of ANYTHING at all remotely positive this is pretty encouraging to those of us with big chunks of change there.

Well lets hope I and many others are wrong in those thoughts tho.


I lost $4 due to the mess, mainly cause I would never trust a bank "online" store my cash. But losing Epassporte as a service is a total loss enough for us EU webmasters.

I CAN'T MY BANK (CHASE) BLOCKED EPASS OVER 3 YEARS AGO.

I'm off , ill check back later for real updates like when someone gets paid.

I still have money going into epass from my sponsers not in the virtul visa but into the wallet. I think if they wanted to screw people out of thier money they would have done it years ago. Why run a company for 7 years trhen decide yeah lets screw everybody. People are getting wires so thats a good sign as well.
I am sure those guys are working thier butts of to get this resolved, and Michael has always responded to my emails. Call me stupid but I have every confidence in epass getting back to what it was

Lucky you. I had money there for my affiliates ;( the only reason I used it.

3 Points to Shap for the back and forth..lol

Well..I am not saying they WOULD or WILL screw people over here but ...greed can turn people sometimes.

Yes I appreciate Michael O as everyone else on GFY does...sadly he is just a middlemen in this case, and cannot really tell us wtf is going on.

Have faith young one!

yeah true Michael deserves a medal for taking all the crap on GFY over the last week

damm.... havent been called "young one" in ages lol that made me smile

This thread was really a waste of time to read. Nobody recieved any money yet. Only some money was gone from some accounts but never recieved. When someone actually gets their money, then that's a different story, untill them it's just nore lame drama.:2 cents::2 cents:

Deserves a medal??

Let's see. He answered the same easy questions repeatedly. Completely ignored other questions. Then lost it and went gangster (DONT DARE QUESTION MY COMMITMENT!) when someone asked why he wasnt answering them. Promised an update, provided a bullshit one under his nick (having to know full well it wasnt written by the owner of the company). Then he started another thread admonishing the Anal Hobbit. :1orglaugh Then stopped responding to anyone on the boards, because it was too much to keep up with. (even though they were threads HE started).

Quite a productive week.

This logic is so backasswards. So you think its good to have someone in charge who's fucked up repeatedly but managed to fix his fuckups versus someone who hasnt ever fucked up in the first place?

See, you're putting CM on too high of a pedestal. What you describe you'd do is right and what CM is doing is wrong.

You cannot necessarily judge someone solely on their past successes. Many of the once mighty have fallen hard and CM is not immune to that possibility. That is what has people worried ... especially with the lack of transparency in his businesses.

He may have made God knows how much money but he may have also lost God knows how much. We know of a single $20+ million bet that he lost. If there are others that we don't know about he could be up shits creek no matter his track record.

Fortunes are made and lost every day.

It isn't the known that has people worried -- we know very little -- it's the unknown that everybody is afraid of. As this drags on more and more things that were was unknown are coming to light.

Can you imagine the amount of emails and ICQ's he was trying to reply back to, not to mention the paperwork and IDs people were submitting. I would love to see you in his situation and see just how well you would handle it. I got an reply back from my emails which I sent him within 24 hours. The guy was taking the full brunt of a lot of the stupidity of people on this board, he deserves more than a medal in my books

Good points

Was this before or after he started a thread about the loss of respect for Anal Hobbit?

How about before or after he posted the bullshit update and then went MIA in his own threads?

So I also assume you feel that the CEO of BP deserved a medal as well?