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Kelli58 09-11-2010 06:39 PM

Best support staff? LOL Not in this lifetime.

But anywho that's another story all together.

As far as the OP's problem --
Not every type of traffic works for every affiliate program. On the surface 1:1500 tells me that maybe you need to improve the overall quality of your site and you might find an improvement in those ratios.

But on a deeper level, you clearly need to move on from the guys giving you 0:4680 sales ratios and find something far better suited for your type of traffic. Pimproll may work for some people but clearly that isn't the case for you. Best to just cut your losses and move on.

RogerV 09-11-2010 06:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Brujah (Post 17493589)
Yeah, we ALL believe that spacedog made $31k in 6 days.

lmao.. those are super amazing numbers these days if its true which I doubt.

PR_Dave 09-11-2010 06:48 PM

I have found that people that complain about 0 in 6000 ratios with www.pimproll.com are sending only 100 hits each to 60 sites.

Rarely do I see a dedicated/planned marketing effort end with those results.

PR_Dave 09-11-2010 06:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Brujah (Post 17493589)
Yeah, we ALL believe that spacedog made $31k in 6 days.

We have a handful of guys and 1 girl making that or more WEEKLY with www.pimproll.com still.

Brujah 09-11-2010 07:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PR_Dave (Post 17493674)
We have a handful of guys and 1 girl making that or more WEEKLY with www.pimproll.com still.

Well, maybe I'm wrong but I just don't see spacedog pulling in $1.6 million per year with Pimproll. :1orglaugh

ack 09-11-2010 07:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by spacedog (Post 17493512)
1:937 here and not complaining

http://i51.tinypic.com/2h6x4y0.gif

weren't u dead broke a couple years ago now u make that, congrats are in order

Brujah 09-11-2010 07:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ack (Post 17493704)
weren't u dead broke a couple years ago now u make that, congrats are in order

I hope he really is doing that well with Pimproll. :thumbsup

signupdamnit 09-11-2010 07:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PR_Dave (Post 17493671)
I have found that people that complain about 0 in 6000 ratios with www.pimproll.com are sending only 100 hits each to 60 sites.

Shouldn't that even out though assuming there's not some sort of funny business going on somewhere to throw off the stats? 100 hits a day to 60 sites is still 6,000 clicks a day. Over a period of many months that should more than even out.

Quote:

Originally Posted by PR_Dave (Post 17493671)
Rarely do I see a dedicated/planned marketing effort end with those results.

But if the affiliate uses the same marketing style why would pimproll be a special case and have different ratios than other sponsors?

Although 6,000 clicks isn't the best amount to test. Maybe he should wait until he sends 30,000+.

pussyluver 09-11-2010 07:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Emma (Post 17491083)
or they shaving like crazy
sale ratio 0:4680 even with their "free trials"
my blog traffic converts about 1:1500 on other sponsors
I will move their links :321GFY

For all those that say or emply about shaving: GFY used to ban for those statements with out hard proof. So where's the proof? So where's a mod with a warning atleast?

signupdamnit 09-11-2010 07:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pussyluver (Post 17493753)
For all those that say or emply about shaving: GFY used to ban for those statements with out hard proof. So where's the proof? So where's a mod with a warning atleast?

In his defense he did use the word "or" and it was also more like a question to me and not an accusation.

Brujah 09-11-2010 08:20 PM

50 pimproll millionaires

pussyluver 09-11-2010 09:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by signupdamnit (Post 17493756)
In his defense he did use the word "or" and it was also more like a question to me and not an accusation.

People used to be very touchy at the use of the word....

NoWhErE 09-11-2010 09:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by signupdamnit (Post 17493733)
Shouldn't that even out though assuming there's not some sort of funny business going on somewhere to throw off the stats? 100 hits a day to 60 sites is still 6,000 clicks a day. Over a period of many months that should more than even out.

No I think he meant 100 hits total in a day spread across 60 sites, not 100 hits x 60 sites.

Brad Mitchell 09-11-2010 10:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Relentless (Post 17491544)
Surfers generally fear free trials these days... having been badly burned by many of them in the past. Pimproll is an honestly managed ethical sponsor that you can depend on to actually pay you for your sales... and they are releasing new sites and new tools all the time (so unlike many programs they clearly are in it for the long haul). I've done very well with them and continue to do well with them... I'd suggest you stop pushing free trials and see if your stats improve.

Also, it's pretty much impossible to decide if a sponsor is good or bad with only 5K uniques sent. Even just 3 sales in the next few hundred hits and your overall ratios would change radically. Contact them and see if they can assist you, they are very easy to work with. :2 cents:

Quoted for the truth. PR is as honest as they come. As their host, I can tell you that I see constant innovation and investment, too.

Brad

Emma 09-12-2010 12:11 AM

I've sent quality traffic to their "top sites" and nothing. I think it's wasting of time.
Cheat me once shame on you. Cheat me twice shame on me. Cheat me three times not in your dreams.

stever 09-12-2010 01:52 AM

pimproll rocks

gooddomains 09-12-2010 02:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by stever (Post 17494190)
pimproll rocks

:thumbsup:thumbsup:thumbsup:thumbsup

babymaker 09-12-2010 02:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by stever (Post 17494190)
pimproll rocks

:thumbsup :pimp

izzynew 09-12-2010 02:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Emma (Post 17494093)
I've sent quality traffic to their "top sites" and nothing. I think it's wasting of time.

You don't have to send to their 'top sites'. You send to the sites suited to your traffic.
I don't send initial traffic to any of their sites listed as 'best converting' or 'top selling' (although they go to porn.com as an extra choice).
I'm only a small fish in a big pool. But after reading your post, I just checked my pimproll stats and made 2 sales in the last 24 hours on targetted traffic, sent to a couple of their older sites.
That's on 1$ trials.
Ratio overall for last month: 1.1103

Nick_Merlot 09-12-2010 03:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LongBG (Post 17491195)
Try contacting them about it and stop having a cry.

:2 cents: :2 cents:

tonyparra 09-12-2010 07:09 AM

16 domains parked...

Stef. 09-12-2010 07:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tonyparra (Post 17494610)
16 domains parked...

and how is it working for you so far with their parking system?
.

PR_Dave 09-12-2010 09:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by izzynew (Post 17494250)
You don't have to send to their 'top sites'. You send to the sites suited to your traffic.

BINGO!

:pimp

PR_Glen 09-13-2010 10:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by signupdamnit (Post 17493733)
But if the affiliate uses the same marketing style why would pimproll be a special case and have different ratios than other sponsors?

Although 6,000 clicks isn't the best amount to test. Maybe he should wait until he sends 30,000+.

Our stats system tracks better than most other systems.. we proved this conclusively when we compared numbers to our other programs of the past. More stats tracking means higher overall ratios. What would you rather have? False numbers with better ratios? or accurate ones?


BVF we are just confirming some info with your ticket now, normally we aren't available at 7pm on fridays, but even if we were there is no mail delivery on weekends...

Emma if you are having some conversion issues i'm always available weekly during business hours eastern standard time. I can go over some of your sites and try to find a strategy that may work with you. This goes for anyone else that may need it as well, as this is why I am here.

Thanks

signupdamnit 09-13-2010 11:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PR_Glen (Post 17498288)
Our stats system tracks better than most other systems.. we proved this conclusively when we compared numbers to our other programs of the past. More stats tracking means higher overall ratios. What would you rather have? False numbers with better ratios? or accurate ones?

Please go ahead and post a link to what you are referring to in regards to having better stats tracking than other programs. Certainly more accurate stats tracking along with proper affiliate credit for sales is a plus, where present. No argument there.

Don't misunderstand me. Just because I have had a ~ 1:6,000+ ratio with you for many years (the first year ratios were below 1:1000 if I recall correctly) doesn't mean I think something is wrong with your stats or you are up to something fishy. Sometimes it just happens. But in any case it's highly unlikely that I'll ever promote you again. I've only sent trickles the last few years due to this.

Agent 488 09-13-2010 11:09 AM

they have tons of niches. some have not been great but others have. just how it is. they pay weekly, not going anywhere.

PR_Glen 09-13-2010 12:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by signupdamnit (Post 17498328)
Please go ahead and post a link to what you are referring to in regards to having better stats tracking than other programs. Certainly more accurate stats tracking along with proper affiliate credit for sales is a plus, where present. No argument there.

Don't misunderstand me. Just because I have had a ~ 1:6,000+ ratio with you for many years (the first year ratios were below 1:1000 if I recall correctly) doesn't mean I think something is wrong with your stats or you are up to something fishy. Sometimes it just happens. But in any case it's highly unlikely that I'll ever promote you again. I've only sent trickles the last few years due to this.

I'm not discussing our competition and i'm not going to bad mouth any other programs. I am merely defending why some of our webmasters may get different stats ratios with us. Sales and $'s mean a lot more at the end of the day as you already know. The way we see it is having more accurate tracking will only aid a webmaster with their marketing research and essentially help them figure out what works and what doesn't.

However if you were consistently getting horrible overall numbers with us then who could blame you with trying others out? I still think we could be profitable for you in some regard so hit me up and we can figure something out. I don't exaggerate the numbers and I don't blow smoke up anyones ass so there should be nothing to lose really... If not that is cool too.

BestXXXPorn 09-13-2010 01:17 PM

When are you whining noobs going to realize that every traffic group is different even if you have two sites that are identical? FFS quit your bitching and promote someone else on a site that doesn't covert well with Sponsor X.

The vast majority of people that bitch about this stuff have junk sites and/or sites that are all about FREE PORN! targeted keywords... Do you really expect people to bust out their wallets when they're searching for free porn?! Why do you think review sites have a much higher conversion ratio? Maybe because people are specifically looking for the best place to actually SPEND money? /gasp Imagine that...

Robocrop 09-13-2010 01:27 PM

I havent pushed PR but they got some quality content and cover LOTS of niches..give them a try!

Brad Mitchell 09-13-2010 06:22 PM

I park a few hundred of my own domains at Pimproll and even on my low traffic 404 redirects I've made several sales in the last month on domains that haven't otherwise resolved in more than 18 months because I've been too busy to re-point them somewhere else since the last parking provider sold out and turned $1200 a month of revenue into $100.

I'm their host - I not only trust my traffic to go there from how closely our teams have collaborated, I thanked them for turning 0's into something. :)

Brad

PR_Dave 09-13-2010 06:26 PM

Regarding parking we have huge enhancements underway.

They will be released when PimpRoll V1.0 is released.

Phoenix 09-13-2010 06:32 PM

pimproll converts quite nicely if my memory serves me right

makebank did well also

would like to bring some very select people back one day :)

tonyparra 09-13-2010 08:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RSTGP_Stef (Post 17494663)
and how is it working for you so far with their parking system?
.

actually ive only made a few sales... but at least i can use the domains to trade links etc with and they do get some traffic that may stick around once i change them over if ever

tonyparra 09-13-2010 08:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PR_Dave (Post 17499855)
Regarding parking we have huge enhancements underway.

They will be released when PimpRoll V1.0 is released.

cant have a few dozen more i keep forgetting to park

LA Crew 09-13-2010 10:53 PM

Porn industry is all about adapting. Don't forget that.

Paul Markham 09-14-2010 01:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Emma (Post 17491083)
or they shaving like crazy
sale ratio 0:4680 even with their "free trials"
my blog traffic converts about 1:1500 on other sponsors
I will move their links :321GFY

Emma can you hit me up on ICQ please.

james_clickmemedia 09-14-2010 03:40 AM

PimpRoll has always been a great sponsor for us...

Matyko 09-14-2010 04:47 AM

I love pimproll, for reasons already mentioned above, and me and my company do everything in order to drive more traffic and sales to them, but somehow our conversions are not good. we dont use free trials, but the $4.99 (or $4.95?) ones...

Darkcrni 09-14-2010 04:51 AM

One of the best!!!! And They Do Convert!

Stef. 09-14-2010 05:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PR_Dave (Post 17499855)
Regarding parking we have huge enhancements underway.

They will be released when PimpRoll V1.0 is released.

cool! Can't wait to see the new version then :)
(expected release date?)

about the parking... Even more flexibility will be expected :)


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