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sperbonzo 09-23-2010 08:25 AM

So here is the ACTUAL pledge....


Just in case anyone is interested in actually reading something that they are debating about.... (unlike our congress)


http://www.scribd.com/doc/37958976/G...dge-to-America



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messiah1 09-23-2010 08:46 AM

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Originally Posted by marketsmart (Post 17527284)

in fact human beings are evil, greedy, and vile creatures by design..


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No we are taught to be "evil" or for a better term "egoic" from an early age by being forced to use the left side of are brains for the majority of our problems.

Tom_PM 09-23-2010 08:55 AM

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Originally Posted by sperbonzo (Post 17529991)
So here is the ACTUAL pledge....


Just in case anyone is interested in actually reading something that they are debating about.... (unlike our congress)


http://www.scribd.com/doc/37958976/G...dge-to-America



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lol, not a single specific in that draft. But if it makes you feel good, thats good for them.

Amputate Your Head 09-23-2010 08:57 AM

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Originally Posted by messiah1 (Post 17530052)
No we are taught to be "evil" or for a better term "egoic" from an early age by being forced to use the left side of are brains for the majority of our problems.

+1 :2 cents:

spazlabz 09-23-2010 09:06 AM

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Originally Posted by messiah1 (Post 17530052)
No we are taught to be "evil" or for a better term "egoic" from an early age by being forced to use the left side of are brains for the majority of our problems.

In all fairness... when we let people solve problems creatively instead of logically we get Enron :1orglaugh

sperbonzo 09-23-2010 09:56 AM

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Originally Posted by PR_Tom (Post 17530074)
lol, not a single specific in that draft. But if it makes you feel good, thats good for them.

Specifics? The democrats refuse to release their BUDGET plans for next year before the elections for gods sake!!! LMAO!!!



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Tom_PM 09-23-2010 10:05 AM

Good lord, now it's coming out that lobbyists wrote the draft. How fitting.

Bill8 09-23-2010 03:18 PM

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Originally Posted by PR_Tom (Post 17530352)
Good lord, now it's coming out that lobbyists wrote the draft. How fitting.

source attribution?

Noe 09-23-2010 05:22 PM

Actually the Bush tax cut isn't just for wealthy individuals it has a much bigger affect on small-med. sized businesses in this country, which has significantly affects the unemployement rate in this country. To tell you the truth, the Tea Party is starting to look attractive compared to the current alternative.

Matt 26z 09-23-2010 06:40 PM

The 1990s was the climax of American society. There is nothing any version of the US government can do to get us back there in a reasonable period of time that voters would agree with.

The sooner Americans accept that the current economy is pretty much the new normal economy, the sooner we can adjust. That won't happen though. People will naturally continue to demand a return to 90's living and refuse to pay the piper for decades of borrowed wealth.

This ultimately comes down to the baby boomer generation - the so-called greatest generation - having actually been the most financially destructive generation in the history of the US.

The Demon 09-23-2010 06:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Matt 26z (Post 17532906)
The 1990s was the climax of American society. There is nothing any version of the US government can do to get us back there in a reasonable period of time that voters would agree with.

The sooner Americans accept that the current economy is pretty much the new normal economy, the sooner we can adjust. That won't happen though. People will naturally continue to demand a return to 90's living and refuse to pay the piper for decades of borrowed wealth.

This ultimately comes down to the baby boomer generation - the so-called greatest generation - having actually been the most financially destructive generation in the history of the US.

Uh, the 1950's was the climax of American society in every sense of the world. The Baby Boomers were the "Greatest generation".

Bill8 09-23-2010 10:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Matt 26z (Post 17532906)
This ultimately comes down to the baby boomer generation - the so-called greatest generation - having actually been the most financially destructive generation in the history of the US.

there have been a few articles recently promoting this idea, usually with a "but if the boomers pull together they can set things right" happy ending.

that the tea party is based on lower and lowest-middle class boomer rage at the loss of their promised american dream seems a fairly accurate summary.

Slutboat 09-23-2010 11:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Bill8 (Post 17533719)
there have been a few articles recently promoting this idea, usually with a "but if the boomers pull together they can set things right" happy ending.

that the tea party is based on lower and lowest-middle class boomer rage at the loss of their promised american dream seems a fairly accurate summary.


It's actually is as simple as that: mortgage securities being de-regulated in the 80's and 90's caused the collapse, then the rage came with the lower class boomers fueled by racism from having a black President presiding over the demise.

Amputate Your Head 09-23-2010 11:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Matt 26z (Post 17532906)
The sooner Americans accept that the current economy is pretty much the new normal economy, the sooner we can adjust.

the sooner people realize that they are fucked either way, the sooner they can pull their collective heads out of their asses.

The Demon 09-24-2010 12:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Slutboat (Post 17533726)
It's actually is as simple as that: mortgage securities being de-regulated in the 80's and 90's caused the collapse, then the rage came with the lower class boomers fueled by racism from having a black President presiding over the demise.

Look at the little moron trying to pretend he understands economics. You hear that guys? Racism was one of the cause of the collapse!!! Not shit low interest rates introduced by the FED or Americans living outside their means. It wasn't the quantitative easing either! It was de-regulation and racism! It strikes me as humorous when porn pushers try to go outside their field of expertise, which would be everything else.:1orglaugh


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