I know he aint new, but that dont exactly speaks in his favor when he comes crying about his sponsors dont pay him on time, but he still send them traffic.

I would call them "fraudulent sponsors" as well, but I would make sure everyone knew what company I was talking about.

So let me get this straight:
If I buy traffic from you, I should avoid most sponsors and just send to dating.
And even most of the dating don't pay.
So, why the fuck should any affiliate buy your traffic?
It obviously wont make anybody any money....

On another note: I have bought traffic from you in the past for dating and it was a BUST.
Not even close to breaking even.

Before you blame it on the sponsors let me tell you which sponsors I used back then.

Pussycash
Adult Date Link
LoadedCash

Furthermore, in reference to your comment about of " having to chase sponsors down to get paid " I have NEVER had that problem with the three sponsors mentioned above.

The bottom line is that your traffic does NOT convert. If it did you would be an affiliate of some site and send it all there.

(For the record, I purposely did not attach my affiliate code to the above sponsors. The purpose of this post is not to get referrals).

Post proof, whats your chokertraffic account name. You come here making claims like this you better back it up. Another anon poster, I am POSITIVE you have never ever bought traffic from me. Prove me wrong.

:error

Did you just demand proof, in a topic where you air your own libelous writings about your past and current unnamed sponsors?

Nice try, I didn't make a accusation against a SPECIFIC person on this board, the fuckwad did so according to the GFY rules he needs to post proof. You think you are being slick don't ya? Anon surfers like you really bring this place down. I'm almost willing to bet money that your just another one of the fake Frisky handles. Prove me wrong anon.

interesting to say the least

You don't miss the cock ?:1orglaugh

You can nitpick semantics all night I'm sure, but that dont change the hypocracy in your writings.

If someone disagree with you, they must be either one of the webmasters you have banned or a fake Frisky nick - ofcourse.

Disagree with me all you want, I don't care. But when a anon like you or the other anon makes a damaging accusation against me with no proof, of course I get upset, anyone would if this happened to them. Of course there is no proof, this fuckwad never bought traffic from me and like you he is afraid to reveal his identity. ANON = SURFER

Some people on here have nothing fucking better to do than try and put words in someone's mouth and argue for the sake of arguing. Choker already named names in the thread where a dating program on here abruptly closed up their affiliate program and hasn't paid him yet.

As someone who uses Choker's dating cobrand I can't imagine how much it must fucking suck for him to pay someone out on a cobrand (like he has every month that I have requested a payout on time and with no hassles), only to have to chase down the money he is owed from a deadbeat sponsor...

Sadly even this is not foolproof, though it's fairly solid.

I recently discovered that a program I've been sending tiny amounts of traffic to for like, six years, somehow and somewhen managed to silently change its payment terms on CCbill from 50% and perpetual rebills to 20% and no rebills ever.

And as others have commented, actually getting a sale to process through CCbill these days can feel like pulling a wisdom tooth out of your own head with a string and a rock. Not that it's a whole lot better anywhere else, to be honest.

Choker's original point about the difficulty of chasing affiliate payments these days is extremely well taken -- it's amazing how many programs seem to have unspecified technical difficulties and delays that hold up your check until you hassle them a few times. I'm putting a lot more effort into selling my traffic directly via JuicyAds and the like. If programs want to be pissants about paying affiliates for sales, they can just fuckin' buy the traffic and it be their problem how to convert it.

What's funny is that a ton of the traffic winds up getting bought by the assholes who have the worst reputations for dealing with affiliates -- I'm always selling ad slots for cams and dating sites I wouldn't send affiliate traffic to on a dare. Apparently that whole "we don't need affiliates, we can generate traffic in house" thing isn't working out as good as people thought.

I can admit when I'm wrong and in this case I must be doing something very wrong. NATS based programs I'm 1:942 this year overall / MPA 1:1728 / CCBill I'm 1:16,829

Only a newb can buy traffic from traffic brokers send it to well known sponsor and think it will earn more than it costs. Usually you won't get even a half of it's cost this way. Unless you can find some new and interesting sponsor and correctly position the niche, the only thing the traffic from brokers is good for - jump-starting your own sites.

not trying to play devils advocate but if we buy traffic from you where are we suspose to send them from our sites if not to a sposnor ;) Unless you are saying to resell resell traffic hehe.

could be used more like a traffic builder for your own site - tube etc..if you just opened new site and you need some traffic then this is good way to get fast traffic...

See my My Sig Choker! sexsearch always pays never missed a payment they rock!

send some traffic and see!

:2 cents:

lol this thread turned into a pack of winging bitches.

All choker was trying to do was tell his point of view.. if you dont agree, thats nice, tell us in a way that a NORMAL person would. IE not spouting jibberish CRAP.

Ive bought from choker before (although he says i didnt, and blocked my account when he demanded proof on gfy.. convenient aye?) and it didnt convert. Not that i cared, i know what feeder traffic is for. I still get his "broadcast messages" though :)

If you are looking for traffic that converts, you should try something different. Most of the blind/fakethumb traffic wont do other shit then boost op your alexa for a short period.

You where positive i never bought any traffic from you either. But conveniently closed my account when i wanted to show you (in private) i did. I guess the weekly choker broadcast messages are delivered to the wrong adres too :1orglaugh

I dont understand why this gets you so upset. You are selling feedertraffic, and you know all about the quality of it. You want to tell us that it converts like crazy?

Why don't you show us proof of how well your feedertraffic is converting? You said it in the other thread, MY traffic was crap, and YOURS was the bomb right? So, lets see it? My bet is you wont for the obvious reasons. But hey, what do i know right. You just told us your traffic converts like crazy and we disagree. Whats there to cry about?

Haha, seems so.

You just made an accusation against a SPECIFIC person on this board, fuckwad. ME! Anybody who disagrees with you is me with a fakenick? Can you post proof of that please?

Exactly. And since he is crying about proof all the time. Lets see his proof of you being me.

Very true, although a lot of veterans still tryout this kinda traffic on a weekly basis to find a way to make money of of it. Choker says its converting, but i guess most of us disagree then. I wonder if we can just speak up and disagree, or we need to all post PROOF of it now :1orglaugh

So you don't send traffic to sponsor programs, but you do use sponsor content to generate traffic, only to send it to some dating APIs? How fucking brilliant.

i guess your right

Agreed. The situation is getting pretty dire. Not much converts and when something does convert getting paid is a constant battle. :disgust

Yeah, he is a fucking genius. He is bashing his own biz lol.

Exactly. Even the sponsors themselves don't buy traffic like this directly to their paysites. They buy it to thier free sites that in turn advertise their programs. It's called filtering. Many sponsors have their free sites optimized so well they can buy hundreds of thousands of hits a day and make a profit.

Your a fucking liar, but anyone who knows you expects this from you. You never gave me your user name that you supposedly have with me. I havent blocked your account idiot, I can't block a account if I don't know the name of it. Just like your fake nicks you make accusations and can't back them up.

I heard some people were looking for you in Amsterdamn but you didn't show up. What's up with that? Your scared to show your face?

Post your user name with me or shut the fuck up. It's real simple. You claim you bought traffic from me post your user name so I can confirm this. i never delete accounts, if you have one it's there.

name it or gfy

I found a account but not sure if it's his or not. http://friskyvids.com is in it, but I have been told that he sold that site so I'm not sure. Wasn't there a post about Frisky sending turkish traffic to his trades from a site a couple years back? If so I found the source, seems someone bought some turkish traffic from me

I agree!
2 of my datings programs are delaying my payment by check or wire from the last 2 weeks!
I sent all details lot of times, after that no more replies!
I will try to get in touch with another account rep from these sponsors, and if they can fix it next week I will post their names and emails/conversations here!

He didnt say that!

Not a glowing endorsement for people to buy your traffic:Oh crap

people wont name names because they are trying to get paid

there are some people i fuckin hate bigtime

but..they owe me a lot of money...so im nice

sometimes i think they engineered shit that way...if my mainstream shit hits big..you can bet ill be spilling the beans in more ways then just spouting off at gfy

After 30 days you'll only rarely ever get a penny. This is even more true after 90 days. Even if they do pay up some of it that late what about all the time and aggravation you had to go through to get them to pay. What's that worth? I'll always spill the beans after 30 days late unless they've been honest, upfront, and apologetic about it the whole way. I don't care who it is.

Another IDIOT. At least your not a anon. Now tell me Einstein what the FUCK does me getting paid have to do with the quality of my traffic? I get signups no chargebacks, no refunds, but I have to chase sponsors down to get paid just like several people are saying they have to do also. Now tell me MR Mensa, what does this possibly have anything to do with my traffic? The fact that I'm getting lots of signups should be your first clue. The fact that MANY MANY people are having the same problems I am getting paid has NOTHING to do with the quality of their traffic.


IDIOT

Yep same thing here man, I'm really tired of the bullshit excuses. Many are blaming epass clusterfuck,nats issues, etc etc

why so mad?

That makes no sense at all.

So im a fucking liar? I dont have an account at your place? And i didnt request you to unblock the account so i could get the proof you requested before on ICQ? Really.. you should be carefull when calling other people liars.

Can you post proof of me having fakenicks?

Why would i be scared to show my face? People looking for me in Amsterdam, lol. To bad for you, but you don't know me at all. I heard this and i heard that, you sound like a crying little jealous girl mate, let it go..

Im 100% SURE my account is still there, because you confirmed it on icq. When i asked you to unblock the account for the proof, remember or should i freshen you up a bit?

He cant.

Yeah, it was one of the biggest rants since years on a lot of forums. The same people that are still threatening me on a weekly basis. My name was cleared by all the big board owners except for my buddy rick from tab. He and his friends, who brought that story to live even posted about it on that silly webmaster board last month. Claiming i was sending turkish traffic through the plugrush trade system and how the plugrush people should ban me for it.

Guess what: The thread is still there. And the OWNERS of plugrush posted stats (without me knowing about it or asking for it) from their plugrush system. I had better quality traffic then most of the others, including the guys claiming i was trying to cheat the system with turkish traffic. If you need proof, check that thread out. Its funny that you are trying to bring up an old story that obviously was a big lie produced by some of the haters. Says enough about you and your "honest" biz :1orglaugh

There is something that doesnt make sense though. FIRST i didnt have any account and you where sure about it. NOW you found an account and it would be mine, AND you make it look like I was buying turkish traffic from you. Can you post a screenshot with proof? Or would you burn your ass because you simply cant?

Put your money where your mouth is: Lets see screenshots of my buying turkish traffic from you. I will donate $10,000 USD to a charity of YOUR choice if you can produce it. Lets see how well your lies turn out now choker :thumbsup

Yeah, but hey, everybody seems to understand that he is trashing his own system into the ground except choker himself. He rather focusses on spreading lies instead :thumbsup

Actually it does. And the fact you are complaining about not getting paid says enough for most of us. You just dont get it..

Because he DEMANDS respects!! Dont step on the toes of someone with a big ego that used to be a bigshot!! "Last warning" and shit, you will be next :winkwink:

LOL, one more time, you claim you bought traffic from me,whats your account name? Is this so hard for you to respond to? Either you bought traffic from me or you didn't.

The account name "mrfrisky" never made a payment and never bought traffic. Submitted urls for approval but that's it.

https://chokertraffic.com/webmasters/index.php

Account name mrfrisky
password idiot


log in and see for yourself

Anyone can login now, click make a order , no traffic ordered EVER.
Someone from the Netherlands made this account July 21 2008, submitted three urls for approval and never logged in again. Yeah you bought traffic from me alright., Fucking liar
is useloos at gmail your email addy?

Ive bought traffic from Choker before and have made money on it.

AFF has always paid me on time :thumbsup

This is Libelsus
 

This amongst other things you've said just do not make sense. In no way has Choker said anything about a specific sponsor or been any more than vague about an industry term such as "dating" or "paysite". I HAVE bought choker traffic and it has converted quite well in the past, i do not make it a practice to buy alot of traffic but I'm sure Ive bought enough to put bread on the table for both parties. I'm happy with the way Choker conducts business, and furthermore Im happy that he wont let a few people in a thread at GFY talk like they come from any kind of position in this business other than that of an amateur. Your constant need for the last word, in a thread that has nothing to do with YOU, unless of course you own a program that doesnt pay him, and you're worried about if he's going to drop some info.. however that's not the feeling I get... I think you have nothing better to do than talk shit to someone that owns a legitimate profitable business, that came to an industry webmasters board to air a little bit of frustration about a non specific trend in the industry.

If you took a step back away from it, and learned something instead of you lame attempt at manipulating someone elses carefully chosen words, you would probably look smarter, sound smarter, and get more respect from your peers in your industry.
If you made any kind of valid point, I would agree..But you are clearly an idiot.
Post after post, you leave no choice but to point that out.
People are entitled to opinions, but flat out misuse of the english language is totally fucking unacceptable.
Get a clue moron.

Jesus Christ this is like the smartest thing I've read in this debacle of a thread.

That's why I periodically check through my list of programs (under "Tools" in the affiliate admin, then click on "Percentage Payout" to order the list by that field) to check that the percentage amount hasn't changed. By reordering the list any unusually low figures immediately jump to the #1 position.

Checking to see whether they've quietly disabled or limited rebills is a bit more tedious, unfortunately... ccbill needs to email the affiliate when something changes. (This suggestion has come up numerous times in the past 5 years but it never gets implemented.)

I just discovered another program I have done business with for years and years silently reduced my percentage sometime in the past year. This one I considered large and respectable in their niche. This one I have a 2004 email from the company president promising me the % they reduced me from. They owe me a fat check, it will be "amusing" to see if they decide to reinstate me at the promised percentage and pay me what I'm owed.

For the first time since 2002, I'm seriously not enjoying the affiliate side of this business.

So what is it now?

First i didnt have an account, now i magically have one called mrfrisky. Then i ordered your turkish traffic (you are selling turkish traffic choker? wow...), and today some account with the name mrfrisky didnt order ANY traffic.

Covering it up must be taking some time huh :thumbsup

Btw. didnt you just tell us all that in fact, you first pointed fingers at me for buying turkish traffic which i asked you to post proof of, and now you are proving ME right?

Why cant we be friends :karaoke (10x)

i just want to say that you should stick with the best sponsors:

topbucks
clickcash
awe
datinggold

been using them for ages and havent had a problem, if i was you i would just start my own paysite, you can even sell traffic to your very own site... im just saying

cheers