But it is every day that a idiot like you tries to turn what someone says into something they didn't. Where did I say my traffic is not worth buying numnuts? I said it's not worth sending traffic to a sponsor as a affiliate. You have a reading problem or are you just a manipulative little bitch?

I actually need to update that I moved back to Orlando

You dident write it directly, but that is because you havent understood why the sponsors arent paying you on time. They are most likely not paying you on time, because the sales you are sending them, arent profitable.

Your own words: "I only send to a few (mostly dating) sponsors as a affiliate and even these few the chances of actually getting what is MINE is bad"

If the same thing happens to you over and over again, you should take a look at what the common denominator is - ie: you and your traffic. Or you can continue doing what you are doing now, and blame everyone else for your failures, problems or shortcommings.

It's like repeatedly running head first into a wall, and then blame your headache on the guy that put the wall there.

Bullshit.

Sale's arent profitable? How is a sale not profitable numnuts? It's not charged back, it's not refunded. It's just as profitable as any other signups. Someone paid with their credit card and DIDN"T charge back. How can that be "not profitable" for the sponsor? I'm refering to all the sponsors that have went out of business and not paid affilaites, the sponsors that you have to chase down to get paid, this has nothing to do with signups I send not being profitable. LOL. I'm guessing you are some fuckhead I banned for cheating and have a agenda against me. So lets post a list of sponsors that are delaying or not even sending payouts with the claim that peoples signups are not profitable enough for them to get paid what they are owed. I'm done with you.

Belive whatever the fuck you want. I'm not the one crying about every program cheating me, but wont name any names.

Your statement was just silly. The affiliate sends the sale and that's it. Unless there's fraud you pay all monies owed and then terminate the relationship if you don't like the traffic. To not pay is possibly fraud on your part. And look around, choker isn't the only one having trouble getting paid.

How about you just post a list of your sponsors that dont pay? just to support your claim.

It takes a lot more than one initial signup before the customer becomes a profitable customer. Maybe you should incorporate some business intelligence into your operation. If this is the level you operate on, I dont expect your datingsite to be a success.

Maybe the reason why you and sleazy fought so much, was because you remind eachother of yourself.

In a perfect or faultless world maybe. But when was Adultwebmastering either?

Well I don't think the expectation is unreasonable at all. If someone refuses to pay me with that excuse I'll call them a fraudulent sponsor. Especially considering that I do 95% revshare 5% PPS.

In this case I think your insinuation is even more silly based on the fact that choker, like him or not, isn't some new mystery affiliate who just showed up here a few months ago. Nothing personal and this is all I have to say on the matter.

I know he aint new, but that dont exactly speaks in his favor when he comes crying about his sponsors dont pay him on time, but he still send them traffic.

I would call them "fraudulent sponsors" as well, but I would make sure everyone knew what company I was talking about.

So let me get this straight:
If I buy traffic from you, I should avoid most sponsors and just send to dating.
And even most of the dating don't pay.
So, why the fuck should any affiliate buy your traffic?
It obviously wont make anybody any money....

On another note: I have bought traffic from you in the past for dating and it was a BUST.
Not even close to breaking even.

Before you blame it on the sponsors let me tell you which sponsors I used back then.

Pussycash
Adult Date Link
LoadedCash

Furthermore, in reference to your comment about of " having to chase sponsors down to get paid " I have NEVER had that problem with the three sponsors mentioned above.

The bottom line is that your traffic does NOT convert. If it did you would be an affiliate of some site and send it all there.

(For the record, I purposely did not attach my affiliate code to the above sponsors. The purpose of this post is not to get referrals).

Post proof, whats your chokertraffic account name. You come here making claims like this you better back it up. Another anon poster, I am POSITIVE you have never ever bought traffic from me. Prove me wrong.

:error

Did you just demand proof, in a topic where you air your own libelous writings about your past and current unnamed sponsors?

Nice try, I didn't make a accusation against a SPECIFIC person on this board, the fuckwad did so according to the GFY rules he needs to post proof. You think you are being slick don't ya? Anon surfers like you really bring this place down. I'm almost willing to bet money that your just another one of the fake Frisky handles. Prove me wrong anon.

interesting to say the least

You don't miss the cock ?:1orglaugh

You can nitpick semantics all night I'm sure, but that dont change the hypocracy in your writings.

If someone disagree with you, they must be either one of the webmasters you have banned or a fake Frisky nick - ofcourse.

Disagree with me all you want, I don't care. But when a anon like you or the other anon makes a damaging accusation against me with no proof, of course I get upset, anyone would if this happened to them. Of course there is no proof, this fuckwad never bought traffic from me and like you he is afraid to reveal his identity. ANON = SURFER

Some people on here have nothing fucking better to do than try and put words in someone's mouth and argue for the sake of arguing. Choker already named names in the thread where a dating program on here abruptly closed up their affiliate program and hasn't paid him yet.

As someone who uses Choker's dating cobrand I can't imagine how much it must fucking suck for him to pay someone out on a cobrand (like he has every month that I have requested a payout on time and with no hassles), only to have to chase down the money he is owed from a deadbeat sponsor...

Sadly even this is not foolproof, though it's fairly solid.

I recently discovered that a program I've been sending tiny amounts of traffic to for like, six years, somehow and somewhen managed to silently change its payment terms on CCbill from 50% and perpetual rebills to 20% and no rebills ever.

And as others have commented, actually getting a sale to process through CCbill these days can feel like pulling a wisdom tooth out of your own head with a string and a rock. Not that it's a whole lot better anywhere else, to be honest.

Choker's original point about the difficulty of chasing affiliate payments these days is extremely well taken -- it's amazing how many programs seem to have unspecified technical difficulties and delays that hold up your check until you hassle them a few times. I'm putting a lot more effort into selling my traffic directly via JuicyAds and the like. If programs want to be pissants about paying affiliates for sales, they can just fuckin' buy the traffic and it be their problem how to convert it.

What's funny is that a ton of the traffic winds up getting bought by the assholes who have the worst reputations for dealing with affiliates -- I'm always selling ad slots for cams and dating sites I wouldn't send affiliate traffic to on a dare. Apparently that whole "we don't need affiliates, we can generate traffic in house" thing isn't working out as good as people thought.

I can admit when I'm wrong and in this case I must be doing something very wrong. NATS based programs I'm 1:942 this year overall / MPA 1:1728 / CCBill I'm 1:16,829

Only a newb can buy traffic from traffic brokers send it to well known sponsor and think it will earn more than it costs. Usually you won't get even a half of it's cost this way. Unless you can find some new and interesting sponsor and correctly position the niche, the only thing the traffic from brokers is good for - jump-starting your own sites.

not trying to play devils advocate but if we buy traffic from you where are we suspose to send them from our sites if not to a sposnor ;) Unless you are saying to resell resell traffic hehe.

could be used more like a traffic builder for your own site - tube etc..if you just opened new site and you need some traffic then this is good way to get fast traffic...

See my My Sig Choker! sexsearch always pays never missed a payment they rock!

send some traffic and see!

:2 cents:

lol this thread turned into a pack of winging bitches.

All choker was trying to do was tell his point of view.. if you dont agree, thats nice, tell us in a way that a NORMAL person would. IE not spouting jibberish CRAP.

Ive bought from choker before (although he says i didnt, and blocked my account when he demanded proof on gfy.. convenient aye?) and it didnt convert. Not that i cared, i know what feeder traffic is for. I still get his "broadcast messages" though :)

If you are looking for traffic that converts, you should try something different. Most of the blind/fakethumb traffic wont do other shit then boost op your alexa for a short period.

You where positive i never bought any traffic from you either. But conveniently closed my account when i wanted to show you (in private) i did. I guess the weekly choker broadcast messages are delivered to the wrong adres too :1orglaugh

I dont understand why this gets you so upset. You are selling feedertraffic, and you know all about the quality of it. You want to tell us that it converts like crazy?

Why don't you show us proof of how well your feedertraffic is converting? You said it in the other thread, MY traffic was crap, and YOURS was the bomb right? So, lets see it? My bet is you wont for the obvious reasons. But hey, what do i know right. You just told us your traffic converts like crazy and we disagree. Whats there to cry about?

Haha, seems so.

You just made an accusation against a SPECIFIC person on this board, fuckwad. ME! Anybody who disagrees with you is me with a fakenick? Can you post proof of that please?

Exactly. And since he is crying about proof all the time. Lets see his proof of you being me.

Very true, although a lot of veterans still tryout this kinda traffic on a weekly basis to find a way to make money of of it. Choker says its converting, but i guess most of us disagree then. I wonder if we can just speak up and disagree, or we need to all post PROOF of it now :1orglaugh

So you don't send traffic to sponsor programs, but you do use sponsor content to generate traffic, only to send it to some dating APIs? How fucking brilliant.

i guess your right

Agreed. The situation is getting pretty dire. Not much converts and when something does convert getting paid is a constant battle. :disgust

Yeah, he is a fucking genius. He is bashing his own biz lol.

Exactly. Even the sponsors themselves don't buy traffic like this directly to their paysites. They buy it to thier free sites that in turn advertise their programs. It's called filtering. Many sponsors have their free sites optimized so well they can buy hundreds of thousands of hits a day and make a profit.

Your a fucking liar, but anyone who knows you expects this from you. You never gave me your user name that you supposedly have with me. I havent blocked your account idiot, I can't block a account if I don't know the name of it. Just like your fake nicks you make accusations and can't back them up.

I heard some people were looking for you in Amsterdamn but you didn't show up. What's up with that? Your scared to show your face?

Post your user name with me or shut the fuck up. It's real simple. You claim you bought traffic from me post your user name so I can confirm this. i never delete accounts, if you have one it's there.

name it or gfy

I found a account but not sure if it's his or not. http://friskyvids.com is in it, but I have been told that he sold that site so I'm not sure. Wasn't there a post about Frisky sending turkish traffic to his trades from a site a couple years back? If so I found the source, seems someone bought some turkish traffic from me

I agree!
2 of my datings programs are delaying my payment by check or wire from the last 2 weeks!
I sent all details lot of times, after that no more replies!
I will try to get in touch with another account rep from these sponsors, and if they can fix it next week I will post their names and emails/conversations here!

He didnt say that!

Not a glowing endorsement for people to buy your traffic:Oh crap

people wont name names because they are trying to get paid

there are some people i fuckin hate bigtime

but..they owe me a lot of money...so im nice

sometimes i think they engineered shit that way...if my mainstream shit hits big..you can bet ill be spilling the beans in more ways then just spouting off at gfy