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Atticus 09-29-2010 10:43 AM
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Originally Posted by Robbie (Post 17551737)
We already do cams. And we already stream our own cam show every week all in-house with no 3rd party.

And "have owned" doesn't mean much in what we are facing today.In case you didn't notice all the studios, sites, programs, etc. cutting production, firing employees, and even going out of business And yes, I'm already doing everything you described. Been ahead of the curve on every facet. That's why I still do well.

But I'm not blind and I see how drastically decreased things are. And while doing social networking and live interaction is the only way to survive this shit on a day to day basis...the money being made is a FRACTION of what it once was in this business.

Owning a paysite a few years ago compared to what is happening right now can not be compared.

Please understand that guys like me are doing everything to monetize the current situation. And NOW we are also actively doing something about piracy. And it IS working.

Unless you are right here looking at my numbers and talking to my people then you are just theorizing what will and won't work.

I had 99% of paysite owners tell me two years ago that protecting my content "wouldn't work" too. It would be "hacked", it would "piss off my members"

Guess what? It worked. And claudia-marie.com just had the most successful month of all times this month (sept.), and that is saying something.

Meanwhile...as an affiliate to other programs...I can barely make a sale because their entire members areas are ripped.

Change is coming. One way or another. And I'm going to do everything I can to facilitate it. And your comments that insinuate I'm wasting my time are THEORETICAL. I'm the one doing it and seeing the results. You are the one making theories.

If you really want to speak with authority, then open a paysite NOW and see what happens.
1. You're kind of proving the guys point. Your site has great live social interaction and is succeeding in a dismal market. The other sites you promote, with canned content, are not.

2. Through your other posts you have made it seem like you cant find your content anywhere, only super old vids before you made the switch or low res. Who do you have to sue then? And If it really is working and "adding up nicely" why not just give a rough ballpark on how many have settled? Maybe if other producers saw real numbers thet might be inclined to join your efforts. Not saying you are, but when you toss out things like "Thats none of your business" it really seems like you're full of shit. Especially when you're so forth coming on every other aspect and have no problem providing explicit detail, including almost exact financial numbers from years past.

3. Ever think that the industry is experiencing a market correction? One of the main reasons profit is down is due to the industries low barrier of entry and the fact that porn isnt worth $30 a month? Or $60 for a new Vivid movie? I know you work hard and care about your business but sitting at home in your PJ's and uploading galleries of hot chicks getting slammed isnt worth $500k a year. Instead of bemoaning the fact that you're not making that anymore, be thankful you got in early before the market corrected itself. And be thankful that filming your wife getting slammed by strange dick is still worth $500k + apparently.

Fbomb - BANNED FOR LIFE 09-29-2010 10:59 AM
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Originally Posted by Nautilus (Post 17551984)
What's fighting piracy in your opinion then, surfer? Throwing napalm bombs at those evil piracy nests?

Coordinating is when people work together on an issue to achieve a common goal - in terms of fighting piracy, it is letting each other know when stolen content is found, sending lots of DMCAs simultaneously to ruin some thieving rapidshare blog, exchaging ideas and various anty-piracy tools and measures etc etc.

The war on piracy is a trench war, it's a day-to-day routine, not some blitzkrieg that could be won with the one brilliant blow. There are thousands of details that need to be handled and coordinated with other people who're doing the same. The stronger coordination between various anti-piracy outfits is, the more chances are that we prevail in this war. You cannot win this war fighting alone.
I see you're a fast learner my little russian pet. Robbie taught you well how to hurt peoples e-feeling with surfer punch line. You got me and my e-feeling hurt, and I don't know what to do.
So basically what you're saying is that DMCA is all you have done, and the rest is nothing but a big bowl of dicks and bullshit. So whats "etc , etc" ??? Please, continue. :1orglaugh

ottopottomouse 09-29-2010 11:13 AM
This has carried on quite a bit since last night.

More interesting reading :)
Quote:
Originally Posted by Robbie (Post 17551869)
You re-educate the public on this and let them know it's risky to go to a pirate site...well then you are taking away the ONLY thing that a pirate site makes money on: the pre-paid ad spot.
Lack of understanding of the variety of pirate sites again.


Still going to say what I said before:

Either you want the piracy to happen so you can threaten people in the same way ACS:Law do and hope for a settlement from people who would never have actually bought it in the first place. (markham is going to call me an idiot 3..2..1..)

Or you have to make stuff unshareable.

gideongallery 09-29-2010 11:20 AM
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Originally Posted by Fbomb (Post 17551713)
get him Robbie. Tell him about your resume and how he is nothing, just a surfer. Hit him where it hurts. Go after his e-feelings.
or post another thread asking eric to ban everyone who doesn't agree with you bs and pretend that it has something to do with keeping this industry pure.

DamianJ 09-29-2010 11:32 AM
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Originally Posted by ottopottomouse (Post 17552542)
This has carried on quite a bit since last night.

More interesting reading :)
Lack of understanding of the variety of pirate sites again.


Still going to say what I said before:

Either you want the piracy to happen so you can threaten people in the same way ACS:Law do and hope for a settlement from people who would never have actually bought it in the first place. (markham is going to call me an idiot 3..2..1..)

Or you have to make stuff unshareable.
You are SO going on Robbie's ignore list now man.

You don't get it, do you? If you do not think blackmailing potential customers is a good idea, then you are a pirate/surfer/fucking cunt.

Durbrain.

topnotch, standup guy 09-29-2010 12:01 PM
This thread is doing a nice job of separating the tube boys from the human beings here.

Bookmarked :thumbsup

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Fbomb - BANNED FOR LIFE 09-29-2010 12:04 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by DamianJ (Post 17552726)
You are SO going on Robbie's ignore list now man.

You don't get it, do you? If you do not think blackmailing potential customers is a good idea, then you are a pirate/surfer/fucking cunt.

Durbrain.
You are So not going to Robbie's B-day party either.

http://www.bimbolinks.com/pics/upset.gif

ottopottomouse 09-29-2010 12:44 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by DamianJ (Post 17552726)
You are SO going on Robbie's ignore list now man.

You don't get it, do you? If you do not think blackmailing potential customers is a good idea, then you are a pirate/surfer/fucking cunt.

Durbrain.
Actually I just see it as a possible business model but have no idea how well it would work.

Leak your shit.Chase anybody that downloads it. Threaten to tell their wife/girlfriend/mum/dog. Hope a large enough % of those threatened pay up to make it profitable.

DamianJ 09-29-2010 01:42 PM
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Originally Posted by ottopottomouse (Post 17553100)
Actually I just see it as a possible business model but have no idea how well it would work.

Leak your shit.Chase anybody that downloads it. Threaten to tell their wife/girlfriend/mum/dog. Hope a large enough % of those threatened pay up to make it profitable.
That's exactly what Davenport Lyons/Digiprotect did. Made a killing.

Agent 488 09-29-2010 01:43 PM
The "legal blackmail" business: inside a P2P settlement factory

http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/n...r-factory.ars/

ottopottomouse 09-29-2010 02:01 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by DamianJ (Post 17553376)
That's exactly what Davenport Lyons/Digiprotect did. Made a killing.
With all the exposure ACS:Law have got recently i'm not sure it will be a viable way of doing things for much longer. Just needs enough people to know they need to say fuck-off as it won't go to court and then it will fizzle out.

Agent 488 09-29-2010 02:05 PM
it's come out that if people refuse to pay they don't take them to court anyway because of the expense. once that gets well known the revenue stream is gone.

borked 09-29-2010 02:06 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Agent 488 (Post 17553381)
The "legal blackmail" business: inside a P2P settlement factory

http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/n...r-factory.ars/
Excellent article - props to ars

-edit and of course to the agent for sharing his find

DamianJ 09-29-2010 02:35 PM
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Originally Posted by borked (Post 17553493)
Excellent article - props to ars
The person that wrote that article is clearly a pirate.

borked 09-29-2010 02:48 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by DamianJ (Post 17553593)
The person that wrote that article is clearly a pirate.
:1orglaugh

It will make not the slightest bit of difference though! The new wave army will still plod on saying that it will work for them since it's fought in the US that has minimum statutory damages...

There is no sense in reason.

Paul Markham 09-30-2010 12:33 AM
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Originally Posted by Dirty Dane (Post 17551860)
Funny, I was looking at the Alexa stats the other day for myfreecams.com compared to some other pay live sites and there seems to be a connection there :)
Not sure what you're saying here. I looked at their stats on Alexa just now.

http://www.alexa.com/siteinfo/myfreecams.com#

Compared them with a few others and for traffic they do well against many except Live Jasmin of the ones I compared them with. Interesting to see how well they are climbing.

gideongallery 10-04-2010 04:52 PM
http://torrentfreak.com/uk-isps-succ...ndover-101004/

for those of you who argued (paul and others) that security issues were not going to be a big deal .

the lack of security was used as an "excuse" by an isp to avoid turning over the info.

expect more isp to follow suite, and demand massive settlements as a condition of turning over the identity.

Robbie 10-04-2010 05:13 PM
GidiotGallery gets his "unbiased" reports from torrentfreak. :1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

Bitch, you need to get the fuck out of here because thedoc OWNS you. You should just leave with your tail between your legs because thedoc showed the world that you are full of shit and can't back up anything you claim.

Either write thedoc the email with the big mystery revenue stream that only gideongallery knows how to do...or be branded a little BITCH for life.
:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

gideongallery 10-04-2010 05:47 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Robbie (Post 17570727)
GidiotGallery gets his "unbiased" reports from torrentfreak. :1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

Bitch, you need to get the fuck out of here because thedoc OWNS you. You should just leave with your tail between your legs because thedoc showed the world that you are full of shit and can't back up anything you claim.

Either write thedoc the email with the big mystery revenue stream that only gideongallery knows how to do...or be branded a little BITCH for life.
:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh
oh there we go making up words and misrepresenting them as my quotes

what a scum bag

never said it was unbiased, it just happens to be the first one on the list google gives

http://www.google.ca/search?q=UK+ISP...KC8gbIhL i7Aw



but the facts reported that an isp used this leak of data as a justification to refuse turning over anymore data is true, irregardless of who reports it.

btw your buddy doc said it wasn't going to be a big deal, while i argued it would be (just another example of me being right)


if you would prefer the article written by a different prespective

http://www.ispreview.co.uk/story/201...mail-leak.html

hell i think there is a downfall parody of this news you can watch

Robbie 10-04-2010 05:58 PM
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Originally Posted by gideongallery (Post 17570819)
I'm sorry...I am a complete waste of oxygen and thedoc PROVED it when he offered me the world and I STILL couldn't back up my bullshit claims
Well, at least you are admitting that you are thedocs BITCH. Now get the fuck off of GFY and go get a job. Your parents are sick of having to support a middle aged man who steals everything off the internet.

YOU BELONG TO THEDOC NOW BITCH
:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh


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