Right, because people who own intellectual property don't deserve to be paid for it.

It's OK, you can post about this until your fingers bleed, this is happening without your consent, and it's about to happen on a MASSIVE scale.

I don't know about food, but slow sales has seriously cut into my "hookers and drugs" fund. :1orglaugh :1orglaugh :1orglaugh

Then set a reasonable settlement price.

Trying to get someone for $2000 because they or someone else using their ip might have downloaded some pornography seems like it's just. You are aware that is how much they are trying to "recover" right?

If you can prove that a specific person downloaded your content and have a reasonable settlemet offer, than by all means...go for it. But to send out letters to random John Does demanding upwards of $2k for downloading one title is a over the top in my opinion.

Next year, the year after and on...people will still be downloading free porn, movies and music.

Why didnt you say so? Blackmail away! :thumbsup

We and many other companies have tried many times to experiment with lower prices, and no, it doesn't increase the bottomline.

However you're free to go ahead and actually DO something to back your words up. If you're seeing a market potential in lower prices, go ahead and create a brilliant $5 site that will update several times a day with an amazing quality 100% exclusive content. Show us as your members abandonded their pornbb habits and never looked back because your porn is only $5 now, and they now subsribe to your site en masse instead of going to tubes and torrents. Show us photos of you driving a new ferrari and partying with $10K/night whores :1orglaugh

I mean, seriously. DO something and show us your record of success - we'll all be singing alliluya to you.

Alliluya? Never heard that one. :1orglaugh

And you either didnt read what I wrote or you have absolutely zero understanding of economics or trends and cant comprehend the concept. Every market corrects itself. You're still hanging on to an economic model that worked 8+ years ago. Same design, same layouts, same price points. Yet you wonder why sales and profits are down.

One more thing, the problem is YOUR potential members dont have a pornbb habit. They have a tube habit.

Tough shit. Raise it to $5000. No sympathy.

Like I told Damian, doesn't matter what you say, it's moving forward without out.

good quote

Bhahahaha :1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

But of course, our potential members do not have a pornbb habit, you pal of course know better what habits OUR potential members have. I just love GFY :1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

http://www.pornbb.org/pantyhose-feti...-t3650037.html
http://www.pornbb.org/ladies-kiss-la...-t3614664.html
http://www.pornbb.org/anal-pantyhose-t3699157.html
http://www.pornbb.org/lesbian-girls-...-t3652425.html
http://www.pornbb.org/various-pantyh...-t1950586.html

Jesus.

I said potential. Just because you can find your content on the site doesnt mean the users downloading it would have bought the membership in the first place. The average user you want to reach is busy jerking it to tube8, youporn etc.

And the point of this thread and my reply was blackmailing users who illegally downloaded content will do nothing to curb piracy or put a stop to free porn on the net. But you, and the other site owners, already know that. You're using the fear of embarrassment as a revenue stream which is incredibly short sighted thinking. Way to completely downgrade your content and the industry as a whole just to make a few extra bucks.

But keep pumping out content/sites like its 2003! :thumbsup

Oh come on, that's as bad as just cussing at me. I didn't say people that own IP don't deserve to be paid. I said that blackmailing people wasn't a good look.

If you do, awesome, I hope you make a fortune scaring people into settling.

Here in the U.S. you can?t win a defamation suit because they filed a lawsuit against you. As long as the lawsuit was filed with merit against you can?t do shit. FYI just because you were sued and won your case doesn?t mean their case lacked merit it simply means they didn?t have enough evidence to prove it was you.

The theory I keep hearing put forth is well if someone steals my Wi-Fi and downloads stuff because it wasn?t me I can counter sue. I hate to tell you guys but you won?t get very far with this even if you?re able to prove in your case it wasn?t you that downloaded the stuff, but rather your neighbor?s teenage son did it. The people suing you had a reasonable basis for believing it was you so you have no recovery against them. Your avenue of recovery would be your neighbors because it was their kid?s activity that damaged your reputation not the copyright holder trying to enforce his copyright.

As to the other one the poor working mom barely getting by who?s son downloads the stuff while she is at work there is a real easy way to handle that one to. If you?re the attorney listen to what she says, ask her to verify everything with paystubs and so forth. If after you examine her verification materials you find out what she says to be true offer to settle the case by having her provide in writing a statement from her ISP that her service has been disconnected, and make her agree to leave it disconnected for at least a year. You will find a lot of people put forth the defense I am a poor nobody, but when you ask for their pay stubs to prove it you find it out that isn?t the case it all.

I?ll also point out if you?re one of the ones who thinks you can simply defend a case by saying it wasn?t me it will be an awfully hard route to go. You have to develop some sort of evidence that indeed it wasn?t you to counter their evidence that it was. In order to develop such evidence you will likely have to hire an expert witness to testify on your behalf so minimalisticly your looking at 10-15k to defend your case, and even if you win you don?t get that back. It would be kind of crazy to spend that kind of cash to prove your innocent when you simply could have settled for $200 to-2k upfront.

that's nice, but what about tubes ?

When it stops moving forward and hits a brick fucking wall...I'll be glad I wasn't on board.

This only adds concrete evidence to the assertion that minors can easily access porn and pornographers are complete scum bags for creating it in the first place and belong in prison for "making it so easy" for kids to get porn.

So bearing this hypothetical in mind, you would really want that kind of testimony on record so the next batshit republican administration can use it as ammo to pass some draconian legislation aimed at putting pornographers in jail and making your business very difficult to run?

Then they shouldn't steal it and there wouldn't be any problem.

This problem did not happen because all the site owners just gave their shit away for free. IT WAS ALL STOLEN and passed around. The response is late, but this is what they get.

There is no blackmail. If you steal it, you're going to pay for it just like you would if you got caught stealing from a brick and mortar store. There is no difference.

Don't worry, you won't be on board so you don't have anything to worry about.

Keep on crying boys, more IPs are being tracked and about to get served as you do.

hahaha yeah agreed :thumbsup

It won't stop true pirates, but you can damn well bet it will make the average user think twice about downloading this stuff. This is just the start watch how many companies start doing this and watch how fast word spreads. Probably will lead to a traffic boost for tube sites at least until they apply this same model to the tubes.

OK lets see who users of this site are and what they say (I'll quote some remarks from one of the threads above).

So what can we say about these people:

1. They know our sites (they mention them by name alot)
2. They know who our models are (they mention them by name alot)
3. They request specific sets from our sites
4. They request most recent updates from our sites
5. They LIKE our stuff - the general tone of comments leaves no doubts, they also specifically say that several times and mention our sites' names
6. They believe that OP is a "connoisseur" - and trust me that gang at pornbb wouldn't say that about some random "money poster". And that hendrix dude is indeed a connoisseur of the nylon niche and not a random poster. He knows what good stuff is and where to find it.

But of course they're not potential customers because some dude at GFY says so. They'd never buy a membership if they couldn't download everything free at pornbb, because a theory posted at GFY out of some one's ass says they woudn't.

Currently minors can easily access porn on tubes and torrents. The people that produce it much prefer that it not be there, and wish that it could only be seen after someone with a credit card/checking account buys it. IMO your argument just makes the case for these types of suits because porn producers are trying to keep their materials away from those that aren?t authorized to see it.

And they also access it on free MGP/TGPs run and/or fed by the producers of said porn without any age check. Legal tubes also do not age verify but get content directly from the producers of said porn for the purposes of selling memberships to that site.

The hysterical movement against porn does not distinguish one form of free access to minors that violates copyright law from another form of free access to minors that does not violate copyright law. They think it shouldn't exist, period. You create it, you can't sufficiently control access to it so you are the enemy. No matter how much of a stand-up bro you are.

And one more detail, let me quote Robbie's post in another thread:

Recheck the remarks from pornbb quoted in my previous post, you'll see concrete evidence of that happening - some dude found a set he liked at FHG and rushed to pornbb to find it. He wouldn't buy a membership because he knows that if he bitches enough either OP or some other dude will finally post this set for him to download free.

If you want to spout some more theories out of your ass without a single bit of evidence to back your words up, go ahead.