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candyflip 10-03-2010 07:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Paul Markham (Post 17565796)
Hey STUPID have you seen other cases of pirates being taken to court? One comes to mind with the defendant being given a $500,000 fine. I predict one of these pirates will get taking to court, will get his ass handed to him by the judge and it will make a lot of others think twice before ignoring the letters.

I guess you glanced over the part of that story that finished with saying the Judge threw out the fine and pretty much let them off with a slap on the wrist.

I'd be willing to bet that they are back to downloading free music once again. :1orglaugh

CamJack 10-04-2010 12:41 PM

I bet Steve has alot of dough, alot of nice rebills.

But this AIN'T selling any NEW memberships:
http://main.tawneestone.com/res/4944...3c1a53176f8a4e


Steve hire me to redo all the outside of your sites for you and I can guarantee that I will triple your new signups.

fatfoo 10-04-2010 12:45 PM

I support disallowing downloads of full movies of many hours length for free.

CamJack 10-04-2010 01:00 PM

You have to evolve. If your tour content isn't better than what's on the tubes, then how do you expect to sell a new membership?

Brand all your content. Do you know HOW many signups brazzers.com gets a day?! Steve used to get hundreds, if not a 1000 free signups a day from typin traffic. All his pictures were branded and spammed on every single yahoo group in the world.

The tube site is the evolution of that. Most tube sites have SHITTY quality clips...most. Beat the pirates at their own game. I can upload a clip, get 100,000 views in 2 days, probably 1 to 3 signups from typin traffic, and 150 to 400 clicks on a banner and 1 to 3 signups from that. DO THAT ALL DAY LONG, AND HAVE HD IN MEMBER SECTION.

Sell quality, raise the bar, give people the best you can encode, stop being lazy bastards and suing people like little bitches.

CamJack 10-04-2010 01:24 PM

This is my take on tube sites:

Keep it under 10 minutes, a low bit rate. Have 'something' be an upsell.

These full length places that look like a 80 to 90% quality dvd rip, is bad. There should be a general sense of uniformity with standards amonst tube owners.

It's harder and harder to sell advertising on these sites, and buying it surely is retarded, You never make 1/2 your money back unless you are a cam site or dating, in my opinion.

When the advertisers are gone and you can't convert anything under 1 in 30,000 its a problem. All the little tricks stop working after awhile. These surfers have a PHD in NOBUYOLOGY. It's a tough grind that's for sure.

Every tube site should be an affiliate to 300+ programs and WORK WITH each company to make sure everyone is on the same page. Have a way to remove the unwanted content easily. Program owners should burn all OLD content on the tube sites and have the fresh updates in the member's area. This way EVERYONE makes money.

Far-L 10-04-2010 03:26 PM

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Originally Posted by DamianJ (Post 17559465)
There *is* no right way, that's the problem Mr Lightspeed. It's all been done before and all had zero impact.

It's an unwinnable war.

But I am certain sure it will make you some bank in the short-term.

All wars are truly unwinnable if you want to get truly philosophical about it. However, for the record, we have had success in this arena more than failure.

I am not so naive to think "piracy can be stopped" any more than I think people will not take drugs anymore. However, win enough skirmishes, defend successfully against enough ambushes, and carry the day on enough battles and you can say that the effort is worth it... even in spite of the bloodletting and carnage and scarring that goes with the effort.

marcorandazza 12-26-2010 06:45 PM

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Originally Posted by DamianJ (Post 17559451)
Mr Lightspeed already posted/boasted that it is his retirement plan.

It's like the war on drugs. Pointless and unwinnable.

Of course, I am against piracy, but I am also against wasting the most valuable resource we have, time, in fighting an unwinnable fight. We could be doing something productive with that time.

I can understand it appears an easy way to make money for some, but I imagine as soon as the first court case contests it, it will crumble. It's the fact it lacks that whole pesky lack of proof thing I imagine the judge will have an issue with.

I don't see anything wrong with Steve saying that it is his "retirement plan." If nobody ever stole Steve's content, I would imagine that his income would have been two to ten times what it is now. Therefore, his 401K and Roth IRA accounts would probably be a lot bigger.

If he wants to repair the damage done to his retirement plans by holding the little fucks responsible who stole his content, then what's wrong with that?

I do have respectful disagreement with Steve as far as tactics, but on overall philosophy (making thieves pay) I'm with him.

HerPimp 12-27-2010 12:53 AM

Already sites banning this country from visiting their websites to avoid issues.

DamianJ 12-27-2010 05:13 AM

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Originally Posted by marcorandazza (Post 17801821)
If he wants to repair the damage done to his retirement plans by holding the little fucks responsible who stole his content, then what's wrong with that?

Nothing at all.

But Lightspeed doesn't have sufficient evidence to prove the people he is sending the quasi-blackmail letters to are the "little fucks responsible".

This is the issue I have. And a judge in England agreed with me:

http://www.thelawyer.com/judge-dismi...006420.article

ACS:Law have been playing this blackmail game for about 5 years in the UK. Not a single case has gone to court, until recently. The lawyers trying to pull this trick Lightspeed has 'borrowed' had their case thrown out of court by the judge and are now facing a committee hearing in March where it seems likely they will be disbarred. I know this is in England, but I reckon the American legal system isn't far behind.

Hope that helps clarify things.


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