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Jdoughs 10-06-2010 07:33 PM

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Originally Posted by suesheboy (Post 17579294)
Before I would guess in the 30k- 60k range.

Now: :1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh :1orglaugh:1orglaugh

Remember, his severance is YOUR money. Hope you enjoy how he spends it.

Stop being a fool.

What would you have had him done, quit on the very first day troubles arouse or do his job and do what he was paid to.

Your posts here make you come off as a total idiot.

As this thread can show, despite what you think, most people still do trust him and thank him for his service, so when you start spewing bullshit leave it to "I think, I do, I know, etc" not "We think, We do, We know etc".

There doesn't seem to be a whole of lot people that feel the way you do, so stop including us in this 'nobody can trust him' bit that you're on.

MaxxB 10-06-2010 08:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Michael O (Post 17571480)
Sad to say that ePassporte is no more so the same with my job, there will be a few people left handling payouts from the Wallet and I will not be one of them but I am 100% confident that everyone will get their Wallet money. I will get clarification on if ACH and CC transfers will still be working or if its strictly wires in the morning and get the information to you as of now I do not know much more than what were posted.

I honestly thought this would be resolved up until the bank cut off the ability to see the Virtual card balance and from then I guess I knew were things were heading.
I know this has hurt a lot of people both with their business and personal lives and I am sorry for that, it sucks it ended this way.
I do not know in details what happened but I know that Chris Mallick did everything in his power to get ePassporte back to normal but sadly it were not possible.

I had 5 fantastic years with ePassporte and I have always been happy working for ePassporte and I have never regretted contacting Chris 5 years ago asking if he needed someone on the boards a few hours a week, I figured it would be 10 hours a week for a couple of months maybe until they found a better solution never imagined it would be for so long
.
It have been a pleasure working with all the webmasters I have talked to over the years, we might not have agreed on everything but I hope we got things sorted out in the end.
Thanks for the last 5 years, there have been good times and bad times but the good times have outweighed the bad times by at least 10-1 :)

I am going to miss you all.
Michael

Good luck Michael and it was really nice to deal with you! You helped me and our affiliates a lot of times.

But in my opinion you'd not to tell that you are 100% confident about our payments. If ePassporte suppose to pay us then there should be a lot of webmasters who got their wire in Sept. And we all know that there was just some small wires. And I beleive that was done to make all of us keep a hope and wait.

So better tell the truth to everyone! We should not wait and keep a hope to get paid one day. All who want their money should hire a lawyer and try to get it. And if you can't afford that - then just forget about your money for sure.

suesheboy 10-07-2010 04:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Jdoughs (Post 17581016)
What would you have had him done, quit on the very first day troubles arouse or do his job and do what he was paid to.

Would have bailed and told the truth way sooner - years ago. Just read my posts for the last 3 years.

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Originally Posted by Jdoughs (Post 17581016)
Your posts here make you come off as a total idiot.

No the idiots are those that lost money in the face of an obvious crash douchebag.

I can expect younger less experienced businesses people to make this mistake, but if you have been in this game for a long time and you didn't see the writing on the wall and kept all your earnings in there, shame on you.

So if you get food poisoning at a restaurant putting you in the hospital and it closes, do you go online, look up the cook and thank him? MO served you all the shit sandwich and you came back for more. :1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

Either you guys have to wake up, are huge post/sig whores, or need to wear helmets in pubic. :2 cents:

dirtymind 10-07-2010 04:57 AM

Thanks for all the help michael. Hope we all get our money back

Cash 10-07-2010 05:08 AM

Michael, how can I get my wallet money from epassporte?

suesheboy 10-09-2010 06:22 AM

MO will be spending time in court.

http://epassportelawsuit.com/

When all of the truth comes out, how much will you still love him?

wolfshade 10-09-2010 08:08 AM

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Originally Posted by suesheboy (Post 17590749)
MO will be spending time in court.

http://epassportelawsuit.com/

When all of the truth comes out, how much will you still love him?

There's a load of bullcrap.Michael well never go to court over this because

1. He worked from another country
2. His position was not a key one which makes him not liable for his employers actions.

Michael O was in very bad position from the start. It's a catch 22.

Had he bailed half of GFY would have been all over him calling him a spineless coward who runs at the first sign of trouble

He stayed and did what he was paid to do, this makes him a good employee, no more no less. What little he could do for Epass users he did, and most of all he took all the crap, including from me, because in my quest to get him to disclose more then he intended I wasn't that nice either. So for this het gets to take crap from the likes of you, for doing his job.

You see where this has become a damned if you do and damned if you don't situation?

Any business with half a brain will see Michael for what he is: A stand up employee, an employer can bank on. He won't run, does what he is supposed to do, and the fact that he required no supervision to do it, makes him an even more outstanding employee.

In fact I always said right from the start that Epass was not to be trusted, but Michael O would be the only exception to that rule of thumb.

core_dump 10-09-2010 08:22 AM

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Originally Posted by wolfshade (Post 17591011)
There's a load of bullcrap.Michael well never go to court over this because (...)

Actually, that's an interesting idea. I have a feeling it would be easier to get Michael O into court than anybody else. And once there, shine the bright light on him and make him tell all the secrets. Much like a John Doe lawsuit, only this time we got the John. ;)

And about this epassportelawsuit.com site, this is the absolute silliest thing I've seen this week. $5 says the total will say 1 billiion sometime in the next week. Or whenever someone gets 'round to it.

suesheboy 10-09-2010 08:22 AM

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Originally Posted by wolfshade (Post 17591011)
There's a load of bullcrap.Michael well never go to court over this because

1. He worked from another country
2. His position was not a key one which makes him not liable for his employers actions.

Wrongo.

He can be made to give statements and testify as a witness. Over and over again.

As the key contact correspondence and communication from clients and superiors went through his hands again and again. Can be used to show a pattern of deceit and if he was involved

If MO and at least one person he worked with could have had reasonable knowledge of what was going to to happen, it could be a criminal conspiracy as well.

wolfshade 10-09-2010 08:34 AM

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Originally Posted by suesheboy (Post 17591034)
Wrongo.

He can be made to give statements and testify as a witness. Over and over again.

As the key contact correspondence and communication from clients and superiors went through his hands again and again. Can be used to show a pattern of deceit and if he was involved

If MO and at least one person he worked with could have had reasonable knowledge of what was going to to happen, it could be a criminal conspiracy as well.

On the contrary; first of all they would need to extract him if he is unwilling to appear. That's a costly thing to do, especially for an employee who most likely doesn't know shit about what is really going on(Another drawback from working from another country).

A rep with key knowledge? You have got to be kidding me! Reps in general don't know shit about most that is going on at the top(Or in Epass's case sewer).

Will NEVER happen

core_dump 10-09-2010 08:35 AM

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Originally Posted by suesheboy (Post 17591034)
If MO and at least one person he worked with could have had reasonable knowledge of what was going to to happen, it could be a criminal conspiracy as well.

Careful there. "Could have had reasonable knoledge" means what?

"Could or should have known" I accept, although now that I think about it it's not any better.

wolfshade 10-09-2010 08:36 AM

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Originally Posted by core_dump (Post 17591032)
Actually, that's an interesting idea. I have a feeling it would be easier to get Michael O into court than anybody else. And once there, shine the bright light on him and make him tell all the secrets. Much like a John Doe lawsuit, only this time we got the John. ;)

And about this epassportelawsuit.com site, this is the absolute silliest thing I've seen this week. $5 says the total will say 1 billiion sometime in the next week. Or whenever someone gets 'round to it.


And if "John Doe" doesn't know squad its a waste of time, money and effort and still would not make him liable.

As for the epassportelawsuit.com I agree, its one thing to get some insight into what's hanging in the wallets but not to start up the legal crap at the same time makes it pointless.

By the time they get ready for action it will be far to late.

core_dump 10-09-2010 08:42 AM

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Originally Posted by wolfshade (Post 17591061)
A rep with key knowledge? You have got to be kidding me! Reps in general don't know shit about most that is going on at the top(Or in Epass's case sewer).

Perhaps not "key knowledge". But Michael did say he had a phone conversation with the boss when he was discharged.

Now how do you think this conversation went? Like this?

Boss: Ah Hi Mike, how you doing?
Michael: Great, thanks.
Boss: Ok hold on, looking for my paper here... here it is: Due to circumstances beyond our control, and lack of funds, .. (etc) Basically your job is in motion.

No, of course not. Some key information was no doubt discussed in that phone conversation. There was also "severance" pay ssued. I dunno.

suesheboy 10-09-2010 08:44 AM

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Originally Posted by core_dump (Post 17591064)
Careful there. "Could have had reasonable knoledge" means what?

"Could or should have known" I accept, although now that I think about it it's not any better.

Good point. It is "Should".

Many of you just don't get it. If the actions of Epass, promoted money laundering, tax evasion and improper reporting, GOVERNMENTS will want to hang them out to dry.

MO should be staying in a country with no extradition agreements.

Reps not responsible wolfshade? Do research before making such statements.

Honestly I would be even more concerned about some pissed off Ruskies hunting me down if I was MO looking at how much some of them lost.

wolfshade 10-09-2010 08:46 AM

Which says nothing. If I sack an employee with severance pay it means I pay my dues regarding this employee no more, no less.

That still leaves him out of the loop on the key decisions and matters going on behind the scenes.

For all we know he may have some phonenumbers of a few (Prepaid?) mobile phones and thats it.

If you want legal action, start with the chamber of commerce entry for Epassporte NV. This document states Mallicks address in the US. Then get an injunction going and freeze his US accounts and assets in order to preserve the funds for the outcome of the trial.

His house may be a good start.

wolfshade 10-09-2010 08:48 AM

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Originally Posted by suesheboy (Post 17591090)
Good point. It is "Should".
Reps not responsible wolfshade? Do research before making such statements.


Oh I did no worries. Like I said before this kind of shit I have witnessed countless times before.

But if you know better perhaps you can point me to a case where a rep was successfully tried an convicted along with his boss?

Phoenix66 10-09-2010 09:30 AM

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Originally Posted by suesheboy (Post 17591090)
Honestly I would be even more concerned about some pissed off Ruskies hunting me down if I was MO looking at how much some of them lost.

Don't be ridiculous. Majority of Russian webmasters are no different from any other webmasters - they are weak fat sociopaths and many of them can't even order a pizza without having an anxiety attack.

To be able to do something to Mallick you need to have connections with crime circles in USA. And none of the Russian webmasters I heard of have them. Or you have to arrive into USA buy a gun and just kill Mallick yourself. For this some balls and experience are required otherwise you will just fail.

The probability that someone actually will go after Mallick physically is close to 0. Not even a 0.01%.

But the beauty of the situation is that anyone with brains can hurt Mallick not standing up from his computer. And keep hurting him for years, even his heirs after 20 years, if the grudge still remembered. No need to invent anything. He dishonored himself by his own actions, you only need to let people know about it. Spam it over the net, write to his friends, business associates, etc.

It's obvious he was eager to get out of adult and do some "white" business. But now he made himself more "dirty" by lying to numerous people and robbing them out of their money. I have no problem dealing with people who are involved in porn, but I definitely have problem dealing with people who do not honor their obligations and do not return the money they owe. I bet most of the businessmen think the same way. We'll see how many people wish to have business with him after he's famous as a thief and irresponsible man. Think of this - he was enjoying his vacation while thousands of people were loosing their nerve cells over this epass situation. Would you want to do business with such a person?

MaxxB 10-09-2010 10:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Phoenix66 (Post 17591189)
Don't be ridiculous. Majority of Russian webmasters are no different from any other webmasters - they are weak fat sociopaths and many of them can't even order a pizza without having an anxiety attack.

To be able to do something to Mallick you need to have connections with crime circles in USA. And none of the Russian webmasters I heard of have them. Or you have to arrive into USA buy a gun and just kill Mallick yourself. For this some balls and experience are required otherwise you will just fail.

The probability that someone actually will go after Mallick physically is close to 0. Not even a 0.01%.

But the beauty of the situation is that anyone with brains can hurt Mallick not standing up from his computer. And keep hurting him for years, even his heirs after 20 years, if the grudge still remembered. No need to invent anything. He dishonored himself by his own actions, you only need to let people know about it. Spam it over the net, write to his friends, business associates, etc.

It's obvious he was eager to get out of adult and do some "white" business. But now he made himself more "dirty" by lying to numerous people and robbing them out of their money. I have no problem dealing with people who are involved in porn, but I definitely have problem dealing with people who do not honor their obligations and do not return the money they owe. I bet most of the businessmen think the same way. We'll see how many people wish to have business with him after he's famous as a thief and irresponsible man. Think of this - he was enjoying his vacation while thousands of people were loosing their nerve cells over this epass situation. Would you want to do business with such a person?

exactly
but if he will not pay we must also try to him to jail

I personally don't worry to give 5-10k more for this to happen. And there is a plenty of people that he owes money. So having a lawyer won't be a problem. He can only escape if he will migrate to a latin america or smth like that. But I'm sure he lives too good life in States to leave all that and run somewhere

core_dump 10-09-2010 12:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Phoenix66 (Post 17591189)
Don't be ridiculous. Majority of Russian webmasters are no different from any other webmasters - they are weak fat sociopaths

Ok listen comrade, no mouth action required Unless you tell me you like it? Based on that you've already said, you should be feeling the lick o' fire right about now. This usually means you are doing it wrong. ;)

I'm not gonna qunote you. But you like me, right?
Yes you sit in that call center and think about how f*cked up your life is,
amd how much beter it would be if you accepted God as your saviour
and then just shut the fuck up.

Peace be with you. Ecept those who like to choke.

erotismo 10-09-2010 01:32 PM

Has anyone contacted the St Kitts bank with any success at getting their money back yet?

erotismo 10-09-2010 01:58 PM

Or has anybody succesfully been able to used their card again at an ATM yet?

"Thursday, October 7th, 2010 is the confirmed date that the majority of cardholders will be able to access the funds on their Visa Card using their existing virtual card and/or physical card(s), without providing SKNANB further information."

Cash 10-09-2010 02:18 PM

It seems that Michael O has left the building, he only reads now, with no reply.

FighterSpirit 10-09-2010 04:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Cash (Post 17591851)
It seems that Michael O has left the building, he only reads now, with no reply.

yes, I see that also

but...storm comming and will be interesting

http://epassportelawsuit.com/

suesheboy 10-09-2010 05:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Cash (Post 17591851)
It seems that Michael O has left the building, he only reads now, with no reply.

Did you really expect him to help you now?

PromoterX 10-09-2010 08:38 PM

I really wish they didn't have to turn off the message center.... for the LOVE OF GOD.. can someone fucking turn it back on just for 5 minutes so I can get my Virtual Visa information out of there?

God dammit!

karma118 10-09-2010 09:35 PM

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Originally Posted by PromoterX (Post 17592349)
I really wish they didn't have to turn off the message center.... for the LOVE OF GOD.. can someone fucking turn it back on just for 5 minutes so I can get my Virtual Visa information out of there?

God dammit!

:thumbsup:thumbsup:thumbsup

blonda80 10-09-2010 11:40 PM

Good luck Michael

Zorgman 10-10-2010 12:13 AM

Michael, wish you could rung around until everyone got their money. I sent my wire and bank details in a week ago, no reply to emails because they bounced. Nothing.
At least I wish they could reply to fucking emails, I just need to know they got it. I just want what is mine.

Ron2k1 10-10-2010 01:05 AM

Those people still bothering Michael should shut the fuck up, blaming him would be the same as blaming any of the asian callcenter dudes.

Michael was just a troubleshooter which he did well over the years

Davy 10-10-2010 04:57 AM

I would like to know how it was possible for Michael O. to do support for epassporte for four weeks and NOT notice that wires were not sent out.



There's no way he was not in on this.

djroof 10-10-2010 05:01 AM

Good Luck mate ;)

suesheboy 10-10-2010 05:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Ron2k1 (Post 17592561)
Michael was just a troubleshooter which he did well over the years

Sure he did

suesheboy 10-10-2010 05:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Davy (Post 17592824)
I would like to know how it was possible for Michael O. to do support for epassporte for four weeks and NOT notice that wires were not sent out.

There's no way he was not in on this.

we have a winner.

suesheboy 10-11-2010 05:07 AM

MO did you eat all the cake from the good bye party?

Did you enjoy the parting gifts?

TheMaster 10-26-2010 10:05 AM

good luck Michael, was always a pleasure working with you

2intense 11-07-2010 03:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Michael O (Post 17571480)
Sad to say that ePassporte is no more so the same with my job, there will be a few people left handling payouts from the Wallet and I will not be one of them but I am 100% confident that everyone will get their Wallet money. I will get clarification on if ACH and CC transfers will still be working or if its strictly wires in the morning and get the information to you as of now I do not know much more than what were posted.

I honestly thought this would be resolved up until the bank cut off the ability to see the Virtual card balance and from then I guess I knew were things were heading.
I know this has hurt a lot of people both with their business and personal lives and I am sorry for that, it sucks it ended this way.
I do not know in details what happened but I know that Chris Mallick did everything in his power to get ePassporte back to normal but sadly it were not possible.

I had 5 fantastic years with ePassporte and I have always been happy working for ePassporte and I have never regretted contacting Chris 5 years ago asking if he needed someone on the boards a few hours a week, I figured it would be 10 hours a week for a couple of months maybe until they found a better solution never imagined it would be for so long
.
It have been a pleasure working with all the webmasters I have talked to over the years, we might not have agreed on everything but I hope we got things sorted out in the end.
Thanks for the last 5 years, there have been good times and bad times but the good times have outweighed the bad times by at least 10-1 :)

I am going to miss you all.
Michael

and you run with my money....fuck you.

webspawn 01-24-2011 06:16 PM

The OP is a huge douch bag and had no problems helping to rip me and the rest of you guys off. Now you support him buy switching to paxum? Fuck MO Fuck Luke Wilson and Fuck anyone who hasn't shunned Mallick & anyone who has so much as had a polite conversation with him since this whole thing went down.

papill0n 01-24-2011 06:27 PM

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Originally Posted by 2intense (Post 17679199)
and you run with my money....fuck you.

he's not running anywhere with anyones money

idiot

webspawn 01-24-2011 07:12 PM

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Originally Posted by papill0n (Post 17866981)
he's not running anywhere with anyones money

idiot

He helped Mallick fool everyone in order to steal their money. I bet he got a nice bonus for it. I'm 90% sure some of that money he helped steal went right into his pocket

will76 01-24-2011 11:49 PM

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Originally Posted by webspawn (Post 17866960)
The OP is a huge douch bag and had no problems helping to rip me and the rest of you guys off. Now you support him buy switching to paxum? Fuck MO Fuck Luke Wilson and Fuck anyone who hasn't shunned Mallick & anyone who has so much as had a polite conversation with him since this whole thing went down.

He is no longer with Paxum as of about a month ago.


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