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nmbr6 10-06-2010 11:22 AM

So as to not put words in your mouth Choker .... two questions

1)If you file a class action lawsuit, wouldn't that freeze all the potential withdrawals from SKNANB? ... and
By doing that class action, would you be hoping to access those SKNANB prepaid funds IF you dont get yours back from E-Pass? (and of course legal fees would come from all this so NO ONE would have a prayer of getting most of their money back.)

Choker 10-06-2010 11:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RaiderCash_Dominik (Post 17578901)
I am in 100%.
lost about 8k

Cool so two people here interested with 17k tied up, I have 7k Brad from Mojo is interested so that's 31k. We hit 100k I'll start researching attorney's that specialize in this sorta law. I wouldn't mind having a financial interest in that Middleman movie. LOL

gumdrop 10-06-2010 11:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Choker (Post 17578922)
Cool so two people here interested with 17k tied up, I have 7k Brad from Mojo is interested so that's 31k. We hit 100k I'll start researching attorney's that specialize in this sorta law. I wouldn't mind having a financial interest in that Middleman movie. LOL

You might just end up with that LOL.
You have to get Gregory E. Elias in there as well. He's indeed implicated this the whole scheme of things.

Choker 10-06-2010 11:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nmbr6 (Post 17578909)
So as to not put words in your mouth Choker .... two questions

1)If you file a class action lawsuit, wouldn't that freeze all the potential withdrawals from SKNANB? ... and
By doing that class action, would you be hoping to access those SKNANB prepaid funds IF you dont get yours back from E-Pass? (and of course legal fees would come from all this so NO ONE would have a prayer of getting most of their money back.)

Epass wallet funds has NOTHING to do with SKNANB man. The funds at SMNANB do not belong to epassporte so this has nothing at all to do with what I'm talking about.

Most of the money from wallet funds is prolly long gone, however those funds were most likely invested in assets which can be siezed and distributed to the prevailing party in a civil action lawsuit.

catalin 10-06-2010 11:31 AM

I'm not located in Califorina or the US, but willing to help, I have enough in there to get the total sum close to 100k.

I can help with a little money and all the documents/screen shots I can provide, but I don't think we will see our money again. Yet I feel it is good to have a class act against these scammers.

If you have a min read about how I believe it all unfolded here, might help with the suit or to get a hold of a lawyer: https://gfy.com/showthread.php?t=991050

Jarmusch 10-06-2010 11:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Choker (Post 17578559)
Epassorte has physical offices in the US and provides financial services for the US.

Didn't you meant to say Epassporte had physical offices in the US and provided financial services for the US?

CPimp 10-06-2010 12:00 PM

This is fuckign ridiculous. I asked a question.

What the hell can be done about ACH withdrawals that seem to have vanished out of thin air? No receipts to the bank account but yet its not in the wallet either.

signupdamnit 10-06-2010 12:12 PM

Choker, have you ran this plan by a personal attorney to see if it is feasible? It might be that going after criminal charges first against any US citizens involved might be your best bet (then followed by a civil case if restitution is not given). Especially since the legal entity Epassporte seems to be dissolved or very near it. The attorney might also bring up the timetables involved and procedures.

Choker 10-06-2010 12:16 PM

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Originally Posted by signupdamnit (Post 17579183)
Choker, have you ran this plan by a personal attorney to see if it is feasible? It might be that going after criminal charges first against any US citizens involved might be your best bet (then followed by a civil case if restitution is not given). Especially since the legal entity Epassporte seems to be dissolved or very near it. The attorney might also bring up the timetables involved and procedures.

Until I see 100k in tied up money from folks posting here, it's not even worth the time and trouble of calling a attorney. But yes I would def think criminal charges are in order here. Also the IRS should be involved. I pay taxes on my epassporte income, not having access to them how can I prove what my income is in thru them? I made screencaps yeah but is that enough for the IRS? I mean banks send out hardcopys thats fine for the IRS, epassporte doesn't.

Agent 488 10-06-2010 12:16 PM

http://www.united-itrust.com/en/greg_elias/

http://www.ctidirectory.com/search/c...company=166156

Steiger 10-06-2010 12:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tube2k (Post 17579125)
This is fuckign ridiculous. I asked a question.

What the hell can be done about ACH withdrawals that seem to have vanished out of thin air? No receipts to the bank account but yet its not in the wallet either.

nothing. these numbers are in the batch file, and it hasn't been processed yet (and it will never be processed). so in order to get those funds back to your wallet, someone from epassporte needs to manually or automatically return those funds from the ach batch file to your account.

Steiger 10-06-2010 12:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Choker (Post 17579197)
Until I see 100k in tied up money from folks posting here, it's not even worth the time and trouble of calling a attorney. But yes I would def think criminal charges are in order here. Also the IRS should be involved. I pay taxes on my epassporte income, not having access to them how can I prove what my income is in thru them? I made screencaps yeah but is that enough for the IRS? I mean banks send out hardcopys thats fine for the IRS, epassporte doesn't.

you are doing the right thing. we need to freeze all their United International Bank accounts.

Choker 10-06-2010 12:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Steiger (Post 17579231)
you are doing the right thing. we need to freeze all their United International Bank accounts.

I'm not trying to be a hero here. I didn't come on here posting that I'm gonna talk to "my attorney" about this. I don't have a attorney for this. I doubt anyone in this business has a attorney for this sort of case, it's very specialized. I have a attorney on retainer for free speech etc. Anyone who thinks ANY attorney would take this case on in a "pay me when we settle basis" is a complete and total idiot. They watch too many late night personal injury attorney television adds.

I would supect a class action lawsuit would take at least 25k retainer to even get it filed.
I'm just looking to see if their is enough support for something like this to even take the time to research attorneys. I'm not in this to be a hero or "rally the troops". I want MY 7k from epassporte, nothing more nothing less. With only 7k obviously its not even worth going to small claims court over. If I had 100k tied up would I invest 10% of that which is 10k to pursue a lawsuit and try to recover what I could or at the very least some assets ? Hell yes I would.

candyx 10-06-2010 12:56 PM

I only have funds in VV but as far as i heard asking around when this mess started, when there is aclass actiion lawsuit lawyers agree on a percentage of the settlement. Of course they take the case if they know they are gonna win, meaning there is enough signatures and damage done... I'd say a specialized lawyer could review the case and tell if it is worth pursuing ...before you have to pay anything ...
maybe i am wrong though...

Kenny B! 10-06-2010 01:04 PM

Edit I'm not a florida webmaster, next time I should read

bellskids 10-06-2010 01:09 PM

I doubt you will get fuck all. I received updates from the lawyers handling globill's demise and subsequent lawsuits. Every month for about 3 years i would receive a letter stamped all over with US Bankruptcy notifications (postman in UK must have thought I was in shit lol), the amount of money retrieved was tiny. And turned out those letters were worth $25 a pop to the lawyers who of course swallowed all the proceeds.

tranza 10-06-2010 01:32 PM

I'm from outside of the US, but I had $13k stuck with Epass, and would be willing to join such lawsuit.

Jack Sparrow 10-06-2010 01:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Choker (Post 17578350)
Well no ach deposits for two days and no access to the site, people who think there is still hope without taking legal action are COMPLETE IDIOTS.

Arent you the guy who made a thread NOT to withdraw all funds before?

Funny shit.

Choker 10-06-2010 01:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bellskids (Post 17579501)
I doubt you will get fuck all. I received updates from the lawyers handling globill's demise and subsequent lawsuits. Every month for about 3 years i would receive a letter stamped all over with US Bankruptcy notifications (postman in UK must have thought I was in shit lol), the amount of money retrieved was tiny. And turned out those letters were worth $25 a pop to the lawyers who of course swallowed all the proceeds.

Sigh. Your comparing apples to oranges. Epassporte has operated like a bank, globill did not. US banks are required to keep what 10% of deposits on hand in cash? They invest the rest man. That's how they make money. Anyone thinking that epassporte at any time kept everyones money on a cash account and didn't invest it is not thinking clearly. Well those investments can be traced can't they? Of course they can. They are ASSETS that can be siezed. Does anyone really think epassporte made money just from the transfer fees they charged? LOL. wow

4 years ago 5 year cd's were paying 5% and thats NO RISK cds. 5% on 1 mill US is $50k a year in interest alone. Now take that same 1 mill of OUR epassporte funds put them in a riskier 10% interest investment thats 100k interest a year. Rinse and repeat, this is how money is made, fees are nothing compared to the interest made on funds in the account.

Choker 10-06-2010 01:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jack Sparrow (Post 17579682)
Arent you the guy who made a thread NOT to withdraw all funds before?

Funny shit.

Arent you the guy who got bitchslapped by google for not knowing how to use xrumer correctly?

gumdrop 10-06-2010 01:54 PM

Interesting:
http://www.google.com/profiles/shalizasomani

Jman 10-06-2010 02:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sly (Post 17578355)
Do you guys have a way of proving what you are owed in your wallet?

Maybe they made photocopies of their screen when balance where up :upsidedow

Brad Mitchell 10-06-2010 02:11 PM

I think over 75k or so the action is easiest done in the federal court system.

Brad

Choker 10-06-2010 02:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Brad Mitchell (Post 17579846)
I think over 75k or so the action is easiest done in the federal court system.

Brad

Yeah agreed, the federal courts prolly have much more power as far as siezing assets than a district court too.

gumdrop 10-06-2010 02:17 PM

Shaliza Somani works with Chris Mallick. He was the Co-executive Producer for the movie Middle Men, whose Producer is Chris Mallick. The production companies for this film are Mallick Media and Oxymoron Entertainment, both owned by Chris Mallick.

http://mallickmedia.com/
http://www.oxymoron-entertainment.com/

Choker 10-06-2010 02:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gumdrop (Post 17579883)
Shaliza Somani works with Chris Mallick. He was the Co-executive Producer for the movie Middle Men, whose Producer is Chris Mallick. The production companies for this film are Mallick Media and Oxymoron Entertainment, both owned by Chris Mallick.

http://mallickmedia.com/
http://www.oxymoron-entertainment.com/

Ther ya go, so here's a asset. Nothing to brag about but it's a asset with future profit potential. Ok I'm stretching it just a little. Imagine the press if webmasters he owed money went thru court and was awarded this group and the movie itself? That would generate enough press to sell a few dvds maybe?

Steiger 10-06-2010 02:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Choker (Post 17579894)
Ther ya go, so here's a asset. Nothing to brag about but it's a asset with future profit potential. Ok I'm stretching it just a little. Imagine the press if webmasters he owed money went thru court and was awarded this group and the movie itself? That would generate enough press to sell a few dvds maybe?

and we would push the fucking movie into imdb's top 250 list to make more dvd sales.

i'm a dreamer but i ain't the only one... :)

Jack Sparrow 10-06-2010 02:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Choker (Post 17579691)
Arent you the guy who got bitchslapped by google for not knowing how to use xrumer correctly?

Nope. Next time do your homework.

Its funny though how you think you can actually get adult webmasters to work together :)

u-Bob 10-06-2010 02:52 PM

here's a bump.

adulttraffic 10-06-2010 03:00 PM

Werent you the one who eurged everone not to remove all their dough from epass?
The writing has been on the wall for weeks and you still have 7k left in epass? LOL

Choker 10-06-2010 03:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jack Sparrow (Post 17579977)
Nope. Next time do your homework.

Its funny though how you think you can actually get adult webmasters to work together :)

It's funny how NO ADULT WEBMASTER will work with you considering your history eh?

Choker 10-06-2010 03:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by adulttraffic (Post 17580077)
Werent you the one who eurged everone not to remove all their dough from epass?
The writing has been on the wall for weeks and you still have 7k left in epass? LOL

Yeah I did so fucking what? Are you another surfer who has nothing better to do than run your mouth on this board? Yeah you are.

cherrylula 10-06-2010 03:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sly (Post 17578360)
It's a pretty big difference when two different parties are responsible for two different groups of money. That's like going after Doritos for a Pepsi lawsuit... yeh, they are related, but different.

but how does anyone really know the truth about this? I trust absolutely zero info they've given us....

cherrylula 10-06-2010 03:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Choker (Post 17578361)
No it's not the same thing from a legal perspective. To get funds back from wallet epass needs to be sued. To get funds from VV the bank needs to be sued.

I just don't trust what either entity has told us at this point. So I guess Mallick vouched for the wallet funds, and the bank the visa funds? Then are they both ripping people off or what, since both have had problems...?

gumdrop 10-06-2010 03:30 PM

I wonder if he has anything to do with this company...:
http://www.mallickcustomhomes.com/AboutUs.html

Choker 10-06-2010 03:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cherrylula (Post 17580096)
I just don't trust what either entity has told us at this point. So I guess Mallick vouched for the wallet funds, and the bank the visa funds? Then are they both ripping people off or what, since both have had problems...?

My observations and conclusions about this entire mess has nothing to do with anything anyone has told me, instead I go by history and what has happened to date. It's obvious that Chris controls wallet and that bank controls vv money. With all that has happened how can anyone think otherwise?

IllTestYourGirls 10-06-2010 03:37 PM

Im not from Florida but if you want US webmasters Im in.

u-Bob 10-06-2010 03:44 PM

Chris Mallick's companies:
Mallick Media
http://www.mallickmedia.com
http://www.imdb.com/company/co0282270/
OXYMORON ENTERTAINMENT
http://www.oxymoronent.com
MIDDLE PICTURES, INC
http://starpas.cc.state.az.us/script...e-id=F14751282
http://chris-mallick.com/index.php?o...=11&Ite mid=1

adulttraffic 10-06-2010 03:46 PM

Yup, you sure got me! Im a surfer. Arent you the one who sells worthess garbage traffic?

Quote:

Originally Posted by Choker (Post 17580086)
Yeah I did so fucking what? Are you another surfer who has nothing better to do than run your mouth on this board? Yeah you are.


Choker 10-06-2010 03:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by adulttraffic (Post 17580292)
Yup, you sure got me! Im a surfer. Arent you the one who sells worthess garbage traffic?

Easy for a anon surfer to say things like that. Who are you again? That's right your a anon surfer.


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