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Choker 10-06-2010 03:54 PM

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Originally Posted by IllTestYourGirls (Post 17580248)
Im not from Florida but if you want US webmasters Im in.

From talking to others yeah seems like it would best to make it a federal thing. So far I see like 70k in tied up funds of people who would want to be in a class action suit.

Jack Sparrow 10-06-2010 04:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Choker (Post 17580081)
It's funny how NO ADULT WEBMASTER will work with you considering your history eh?

Yep you are right, been in the biz for 7+ years and none of them work with me. You got me lol :)

u-Bob 10-06-2010 04:35 PM

another company: Wrestling Pop Pictures, Inc
info: http://chris-mallick.com/index.php?o...Ite mid=1#p38

Choker 10-06-2010 04:47 PM

Wrestling Pop Pictures, Inc

Incorporated by Christopher Mallick, Wrestling Pop Pictures, Inc. is located at 5900 Wilshire Blvd Ste 2250 Los Angeles, CA 90036. Wrestling Pop Pictures, Inc. was incorporated on Tuesday, November 10, 2009 in the State of CA and is currently active. Michael J Weiss represents Wrestling Pop Pictures, Inc. as their registered agent.


(Michael Weiss (aka Michael Jarrett Weiss (born: July 7, 1969 in Brooklyn, New York, USA) (married to Lara McGrath Weiss in 2000) was one of the producers for the movie Middle Men and also linked to MIDDLE PICTURES, INC)

Choker 10-06-2010 04:52 PM

If I were a betting man I would say that CM invested our wallet funds into his movie production. Unless the epassporte agreement we all agreed to says otherwise, nothing is to stop him from investing our epassporte wallet funds into whatever he sees fit. Or am I wrong here? I would have expected him to invest in REASONABLE risk investments, I mean my bank invests my money into mortgages, it's how they make thier money. Epass is no different than a bank in this regard. If they had to rely on just transfer fees for income they wouldn't have ever made any serious amounts of money.

Choker 10-06-2010 04:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Jack Sparrow (Post 17580427)
Yep you are right, been in the biz for 7+ years and none of them work with me. You got me lol :)

Look here boy, I don't have time for your petty posts. Why don't you scamper away like the cockroach you are, men are discussing big things here. Go in your room and play with your gameboy or something. When you have something more than smart ass remarks to make come back and try again, until then your just demonstrating to all what a real PISS ANT you really are. Punk.

I DID NOT REPORT YOU to google so get over yourself. I am not the reason you got fucked so bad in the serps. Google fucked you because you MAY HAVE cheated them and MAY HAVE got caught. Nothing to do with me so shove your vendetta you have for me up your ass.

u-Bob 10-06-2010 04:57 PM

technically, because we were able to withdraw our funds at any time (until this whole mess of course), he wasn't allowed to invest one single penny of our money.

Choker 10-06-2010 05:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by u-Bob (Post 17580586)
technically, because we were able to withdraw our funds at any time (until this whole mess of course), he wasn't allowed to invest one single penny of our money.

Nah man, look at all the posts from guys claiming to have 6 figures in their epass accounts. People used epass like a bank, assumming the money would be safe. There should have easily been over 50 mill just sitting in accounts. To not invest that money in safe investments like a bank does would be stupid. I figured they invested in secure bonds or something, the interest from the money in those investments was prolly what they paid employees with. Again the fees they charge for transfers would nowhere near provide enough income to make epassporte run smoothly like it idid for so long.

And of course you could withdraw your funds at any time, just like a bank they prolly kept close to 10% of deposits in account to cover daily withdrawels. Is it possible that the day the ACH deposits stopped going out was the day those reserve funds were depleted?

Agent 488 10-06-2010 05:13 PM

mallick in retrospect was a golden spoon idiot and bullshitter coming from a family of shady fuckers. hope you guys get your money.

willow 10-06-2010 05:53 PM

I can't see how you can pursue this for less than what you're owed, why spend 50k chasing 17k?

You'll lose anyway, although I wish you wouldn't.
1. All US monies have been spent or returned to clients who could really make trouble, if you haven't been paid out yet, that's not you. (Wallet funds)
2. Everything else is offshore, making it tricky to freeze.
3. Even if you could find it AND freeze it, they will counter sue to drain your resources and they will get it overturned when you can't prove your case.
4. You can't prove your case because I'm certain the terms and conditions of your account state that you don't have a leg to stand on.
5. Mallick isn't poor, so he can outlast you even with frozen funds. Those funds are making interest in escrow while he does it.
6. You won't pierce the corporate veil because you'll have to prove (legally) intent to defraud. I haven't seen any.
6a. Taking your deposit monies and financing a movie with it isn't fraud. Foolish if true, but not fraud. That's why it's called a deposit, not an escrow account.
6b. They probably aren't a US bank by definition anyhow, more like a payment service provider.
7. You may be ever so lucky to get right to the end and they'll BK on you, and you'll get a tiny percentage of nothing.

Anyhow, long and short of it is that you may prevail after spending years and much $$$, but you'll have a worthless judgement in your hands and little else. If I was your attorney, I'd be asking for a 50k retainer and I'd be coming back for more before discovery was up, let alone trial motions. I know, there's no justice.

PAR 10-06-2010 06:34 PM

OK Im in.. pending I cant start take my cash out via ATM tomorrow..

u-Bob 10-07-2010 02:27 AM

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Originally Posted by gumdrop (Post 17579883)
Shaliza Somani works with Chris Mallick. He was the Co-executive Producer for the movie Middle Men, whose Producer is Chris Mallick. The production companies for this film are Mallick Media and Oxymoron Entertainment, both owned by Chris Mallick.

http://mallickmedia.com/
http://www.oxymoron-entertainment.com/

One Star Media is owned by Shaliza Somani who used to work for epassporte. Shaliza Somani also worked with Chris Mallick on the movie Middle Men. One Star Media lists ePassporte, Oxymoron Entertainment, Mallick Media as clients. One Star Media uses the same phone number as epassporte and is located at the same address as one of the epassporte offices.
http://chris-mallick.com/index.php?o...Ite mid=1#p47

u-Bob 10-07-2010 02:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Choker (Post 17580605)
Nah man, look at all the posts from guys claiming to have 6 figures in their epass accounts. People used epass like a bank, assumming the money would be safe. There should have easily been over 50 mill just sitting in accounts. To not invest that money in safe investments like a bank does would be stupid. I figured they invested in secure bonds or something, the interest from the money in those investments was prolly what they paid employees with. Again the fees they charge for transfers would nowhere near provide enough income to make epassporte run smoothly like it idid for so long.

And of course you could withdraw your funds at any time, just like a bank they prolly kept close to 10% of deposits in account to cover daily withdrawels. Is it possible that the day the ACH deposits stopped going out was the day those reserve funds were depleted?

Technically, what a bank does is fraud. A type of government-sanctioned fraud, but still fraud. The difference between what a bank does and what epassporte did, is that the government backs the bank if things go wrong.

u-Bob 10-07-2010 05:27 AM

2 more companies according to the Chris Mallick Wiki: http://chris-mallick.com/index.php?o...Ite mid=1#p49 :
247 Commercial Marketing
and
24 Hour Commercial Marke

Alex Xe 10-07-2010 05:33 AM

it is better file in California, where Chris have some properties.

FreeHugeMovies 10-07-2010 07:46 AM

I am owed 5,200 and live in Charlotte, NC

Choker 10-07-2010 07:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Alex Xe (Post 17582506)
it is better file in California, where Chris have some properties.

Good idea

Jack Sparrow 10-07-2010 08:03 AM

You sound like a broken record. I dont care who set that up nor do i care who reported me. I dont need serps or rankings because money is made by webmasters embedding videos and webmasters MAKE money embedding our videos for free.

Are you mad because my system actually makes them money while your traffic isnt worth using for anything else then feeding it to boost stats?

Or are you mad that people actually dare to post that your traffic is crap in this thread and you find the need to curse at them like a few posts up?

Talk soon,
your friend frisky :)

Quote:

Originally Posted by Choker (Post 17580584)
Look here boy, I don't have time for your petty posts. Why don't you scamper away like the cockroach you are, men are discussing big things here. Go in your room and play with your gameboy or something. When you have something more than smart ass remarks to make come back and try again, until then your just demonstrating to all what a real PISS ANT you really are. Punk.

I DID NOT REPORT YOU to google so get over yourself. I am not the reason you got fucked so bad in the serps. Google fucked you because you MAY HAVE cheated them and MAY HAVE got caught. Nothing to do with me so shove your vendetta you have for me up your ass.


Choker 10-07-2010 02:15 PM

Just talked to a attorney and here's the scoop

Minimum for a federal lawsuit is $75k therefore one US BASED person that has lost at least 75k would need to be the main petitioner.

Additional petitioner's could be from any country, not just the US.

No attorney worth a shit would ever take on a case like this without a retainer of at least 25k US. The petition alone would be over 200 pages. This ain't small claims where you fill out a premade form. So there is extensive costs in preparing the motion itself. Discovery, ie even finding out what exactly is going on including where the money is, who the players really are cannot proceed without a pending lawsuit. In other words you can't go and subpeona Epassorte without first having a pending lawsuit.

Good news anyone can join in as a petitioner.
Bad news is a significant retainer would be needed to begin anything.

Steiger 10-07-2010 02:27 PM

bump! i'm sure there's a person with 75k in the wallet.

Phoenix66 10-07-2010 02:28 PM

I'm not a lawyer, but does not this qualify as a financial fraud? Set up company, start transferring money, collect a lot of money from people, then just shut down everything and disappear. I think people went to prison for pyramid schemes where they took just like hundreds of dollars or may be thousands from any single person but big numbers in total - like 5 mils. I'm sure epass has more than 5 mils on their wallets. And so far refuses to give them back to the owners. So is not this a financial fraud as it is at present moment? Would not FBI be interested in this?

Choker 10-07-2010 02:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Phoenix66 (Post 17585137)
I'm not a lawyer, but does not this qualify as a financial fraud? Set up company, start transferring money, collect a lot of money from people, then just shut down everything and disappear. I think people went to prison for pyramid schemes where they took just like hundreds of dollars or may be thousands from any single person but big numbers in total - like 5 mils. I'm sure epass has more than 5 mils on their wallets. And so far refuses to give them back to the owners. So is not this a financial fraud as it is at present moment? Would not FBI be interested in this?

Yes and I'm sure the IRS would be interested in this also. I mean how many US taxpayers cannot access their accounts which is needed to prepare tax returns?

tblocker 10-07-2010 02:55 PM

I have 15k in my wallet.

http://www.chrismallickscam.com/, contact me choker :)

Argos88 10-07-2010 03:09 PM

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Originally Posted by cherrylula (Post 17578353)
you know people keep saying this,.... I don't care WHERE the fuck my money was, wallet, vv, its GONE. Same shit, money gone. The difference is irrelevant at this point imo.

My money is not two different things, its money and they are keeping it. At this point its ALL a crock of bullshit.

exactly.. it's not our problem to resolve what the wallet is, what VV is.. or whatever..

WE are supposed to get our money and the PROBLEM is from MR. MALLICK

I really feel bad when other webmasters (collegues) try to explain like they were MALLICK's LAWYERS.. serioulsy.. come on guys, the problem is not OURS.. the problem is supposed to be from MALLICK...

.

rowan 10-07-2010 05:02 PM

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Originally Posted by u-Bob (Post 17580586)
technically, because we were able to withdraw our funds at any time (until this whole mess of course), he wasn't allowed to invest one single penny of our money.

Never heard of a bank run? Banks can never pay out 100% of the total balance of their customer's because a portion is invested elsewhere.

Choker, did you ask the attorney a realistic percentage that a petitioner could expect to be paid out, after recovery and fees are deducted?

Jack Sparrow 10-07-2010 06:33 PM

You guys really think chris has this money on a us based bankaccount where they could take it from him with force?

Believe me, even if you win, there wouldnt be any money left to divide it amongst you all.

Good luck though.

gumdrop 10-07-2010 06:34 PM

There's something in motion:

https://www.epassporte.com/

Remember to refresh your browser!

Choker 10-07-2010 07:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rowan (Post 17585676)
Never heard of a bank run? Banks can never pay out 100% of the total balance of their customer's because a portion is invested elsewhere.

Choker, did you ask the attorney a realistic percentage that a petitioner could expect to be paid out, after recovery and fees are deducted?

That's exactly why I made a post telling people not to take all thier money out. I was rediculed for it. No attorney can give any kind of answer until we find out where the money went as far as where it was invested. Those investments are what we will have to go for if this is what happened.

SKULL 10-07-2010 08:43 PM

I'm in... I only have $1600 there but I'm in if it helps

TurboAngel 10-07-2010 08:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SKULL (Post 17586148)
I'm in... I only have $1600 there but I'm in if it helps

Shit where the hell have you been?

TheSwed 10-07-2010 09:06 PM

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Originally Posted by gumdrop (Post 17585910)
There's something in motion:

https://www.epassporte.com/

Remember to refresh your browser!

IMPORTANT INFORMATION FOR EPASSPORTE ACCOUNT HOLDERS



October 7, 2010

Dear Account Holder:

St. Kitts Bank has announced that Visa Cards have been reactivated and funds are available to be withdrawn as of today. If you have funds on your Virtual Visa Card, please use your Visa Electron Card at ATM.s or Points of Sale Merchant locations. You can also use your Visa Virtual Card for online purchases. If your card is not working or you require assistance with the funds on your Visa Card, please contact SKNANB at https://www.sknanb.com/message.htm.

If you have funds on your ePassporte Wallet Account, we kindly ask that you direct all correspondence to one address: [email protected]. Please be patient with us during this time as we have encountered a large number of fraudulent requests and are working with a small staff to review accounts manually.

Dozens of emails are being sent to individuals no longer employed or contracted by ePassporte, to Mr. Gregory Elias and United Bank and none of these individuals can answer your requests. More importantly, your requests will not be forwarded to ePassporte. It is extremely important all wallet related inquires are sent to [email protected].

Please expect a definitive date for wallet wires to go out on or before October 18th.

Once again, we regret the inconvenience and problems not having access to your funds has caused. We are working diligently to get this resolved. We ask for your continued patience as we sort through the many issues with the Bank and Visa as well as our Fraud Prevention System.

Sincerely,

ePassporte

Cash 10-08-2010 12:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Choker (Post 17578246)
I'm out about 7k. Post here how much your out and if you would be willing to put down 10% CASH of what your owed to retain a attorney for a class action lawsuit. I'm talking to people and seeing if there is enough interest to do something, TIME IS OF THE ESSENCE here. We need to go after epass NOW before the funds are depleted. Looking to file this in a Florida county court so for now I'm only interested in possibly adding Flroida based webmasters.

May I ask why you kept 7k in the wallet instead of withdrawing every day or asking for a wire when epass was still up? I suppose there was another amount in the VV as well. Did you really trust such an entity like epass or a Caribbean bank to hold your funds for more than a few days?

Jack Sparrow 10-08-2010 06:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Choker (Post 17586043)
That's exactly why I made a post telling people not to take all thier money out. I was rediculed for it. No attorney can give any kind of answer until we find out where the money went as far as where it was invested. Those investments are what we will have to go for if this is what happened.

SUUUURREEEE LOL :1orglaugh:1orglaugh

wolfshade 10-08-2010 07:14 AM

Choker I think you need this tidbit of info: http://www.gfy.com/fucking-around-and-business-discussion/991488-epassporte-nv-dead.html

Choker 10-08-2010 07:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cash (Post 17586603)
May I ask why you kept 7k in the wallet instead of withdrawing every day or asking for a wire when epass was still up? I suppose there was another amount in the VV as well. Did you really trust such an entity like epass or a Caribbean bank to hold your funds for more than a few days?

I was withdrawing every day. I have a biz account and from the time someone sends me money there is a 10 day hold on the funds before i can withdraw them, when everything went to shit they were not clearing those funds even after 10 days.

Choker 10-08-2010 08:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wolfshade (Post 17587298)

Just when i was trying to figure out of this Oct 18 date was for real or just another delaying tactic. lol

TylerBang 10-08-2010 08:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Choker (Post 17587509)
Just when i was trying to figure out of this Oct 18 date was for real or just another delaying tactic. lol


They already said they are "closing its doors". Just says they are out of biznez.
Nothing new.

Now, where is the cash? In receivership or in hiding?

Choker 10-08-2010 08:36 AM

Ok guys please stop icqing me about this, seriously, I don't mean to be rude but I will not and cannot take hours out of my day to chat to people about this. If your interested post here like the original thread asked for.

Loch 10-08-2010 01:57 PM

bump bump

TylerBang 10-27-2010 12:34 PM

Where is this attorney?


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