Not surprised moreniche is doing this they have done some questionable things over the last few years just search the boards...

THEY HAVE OVER LOOKED THE UPDATE ON THEIR TERMS AS THEY DIDN'T UPDATE ALL THEIR TOS PAGES ON THEIR WEBSITE...
what makes an affiliate program have 2 different TOS PAGES?

I do not promote them. As I said - I tried them and never got any sales. Though I was looking for some acne curing stuff they have now. Just to give it a try. I have a couple of sex-story sites with obviously teenage-dork auditory. I did not have any luck with weight-loss products on adult sites ever, though some other non-adult products do sell slowly.

they did the same thing to me, i will never promote the fuckers

if I am able to get a few of their affiliates to drop their links and promote something else I will be extremely happy...

It looks that they don't care.. now I will recall it before sending them any traffic.

Ahh, this is simple. Most people in this biz are incompetent morons. In fact, most of people in general are incompetent morons. Besides, when you are a single person who have many sites and much job to do or, in contrary, when you are big and have many employees that come and go - such mistakes do happen.

ya im not gonna promote them plus i'll make sure i point anyone who asks about them to this thread.. i hate sneaky sons of bitches

post your info here so that everyone know how bad those scammers are!!

MORE NICHE ARE SCAMMERS... they took me a little less than $50 that I made on sales...

it is little money for them... but BIG MONEY FOR ME AFTER EPASS SCREWED ME...

actually with less than $100 which is their minimum payout...
IF THEY ALREADY HAVE A MINIMUM PAYOUT WHY DID THEY ADD THIS SHIT!?
THEY CAN REMOVE THE MINIMUM PAYOUT AND ADD SOMETHING LIKE YOU HAVE TO CLAIM YOUR EARNING ONE WEEK AFTER YOU MADE THEM... they will steal a lot more from their affiliates this way...

hydra hasn't sunk yet? i thought they were on the verge of going tits up not that long ago?

MoreNiche stole from me too. I had like $150 in my account and because I didn't send any more traffic during the last few months they just closed down my account.
Without paying the $150!!

Normal sponsors would keep the account alive but not Moreniche.
Oh fuck them, they are thieves!

If you had put as much energy into promoting them as you have put into this thread you might have made the minimum for payout.

if only they didn't keep removing the products I was promoting...
I had a few poker sites promoting the WASSPOKER and WASSONLINE... and then they removed both of them and my commissions (which I can't prove as they were delete from my stats)

yep, certainly very fishy.

they were, but i still got paid not too long ago :1orglaugh

Hi Pornpf69,

I just read this thread and sent an icq with this thread / post to Darren..

I don't work for the company but have been doing business with them for several yrs.

We have done thousands and thousands of orders / biz with them.

All I can say is we have never had a problem, and can attest to the fact that they pay affiliates like clock work...

Since Darren and company are not around, what is your Paypal email?

I will square you away right now.

Thanks

Todd

TOS messup :)

Interesting. What are you selling through them?

No one who sends them 2 or 3 sales a day is going to give two shits about them canning your account.

Yeah, it's shady and just a way to grab some extra cash...but those seem to be their terms, so be it.

thanks for the offer...
I will wait for them to come here and say something...

No problem at all.

Not my business you know - I just consider them friends and good business ppl...

Peace

Todd

they USED TO BE awesome... but they changed their TOS (without sending an email to let everyone know)... claimed they sent emails saying that my account was about to become inactive (which they didn't)... and have 2 different TOS pages...

that is not something a good sponsor does... is it?

That sucks, no matter how small the amount, it's the principle of the matter.

Hi,

To be truthful I don't know about the tos issue Pornpf69...

They will be able to answer that - better then I could....

Personally I would wait and see what Darren has to say...

Again I never ever usually try and speak for another company - I just figured I would try and help out a bit since they were not around now....

All I know is they pay like Gold and have too many affiliates to count...

I contacted MoreNiche as well about this thread. Hopefully you will get this sorted out.

these are the links to the TOS...
INSIDE AFFILIATES AREA: http://affiliates.moreniche.com/supp...sConditionals/
OUTSIDE AFFILIATES AREA: http://www.moreniche.com/terms.php

I hope so... because their support COULDN'T... and I am sure I am not the only one with this problem...

so why would they not pay $50? this is really stupid

It's dumb. I don't know but you see a lot of this with affiliate programs these days. I suspect if you add up all the money of hundreds of small affiliates you get a nice chunk of change. I also think some reps are almost trained to be hostile to smaller affiliates. I wonder if the attitude isn't "He doesn't send a lot of sales so fuck him". It's been a common theme with programs especially the last three years. Basically: "If you're not going to be a whale with our program, fuck you".

if they want to make an account inactive they can... but they should PAY the affiliates... if they don't want my traffic: PAY ME AND CLOSE MY ACCOUNT... it is not that hard is it?

the latest reply they gave me on the support ticket was the following:

isn't that quite FISHY?
I hope to hear from the guys on the TOP of MORE NICHE... not from their LAME SUPPORT

Fuck 'em then. It's less than $50. Sorry you got screwed by it. Bump the thread every now and then and on any webmaster board where you see them mentioned tell your story again and again. You'll probably cost them $5,000+ in no time. :2 cents:

Shady ass shit...

maybe I should do that also on their support forum... but most likely they will ban me once I post anything there...

tell me about it....

from More Niche's INDEX PAGE:
if only that was true...
things only go from BAD TO WORSE...

seems like More Niche doesn't give a damn about PAYING THEIR AFFILIATES...

I have 2000+ sales with MN and don't have problems like this :pimp

haven't seen MoreNiche on GFY for quite some time, so it seems quite stupid to post here. Should post in their forum :2 cents:

Hi Guys,

First of all I am very sorry about the delay in posting here, I have only just been informed about the thread and so here I am.

In regards to the clause 7.10 this was indeed added on January 1st 2009 as part of a full accounting review, we updated the public terms (the ones you agree to when you join) but have overlooked a 'copy' of the terms which is on show in the affiliate area, this will be fixed and only one copy of the terms will be accessible moving forwards.

An email was sent to affiliates alerting them to the change of terms.

An email is automatically sent on the 11th month of inactivity explaining that if your account remains inactive then your balance will be removed. The minimum balance is only $100 so that is the most anybody can lose.

This process is in place to protect our business for accumulating large debtors and has been approved by both our lawyers and accountants.

This process is in place to protect our active affiliates and ensure we can continue to pay the large commissions that we do.

ANY affiliate network which does not have a similar process in place is just asking for trouble and maybe they do not have the handle on their accounts which we do.

We pay over 200 affiliates every two weeks without fail, we always pay ALL affiliates as per our terms and we do guarantee every payout (again according to our terms).

I am sorry you have lost this money and as a good will gesture I will be willing to send this to you, please email me your payment details.

Thanks.

Exactamundo.

Nice to see. :thumbsup

Regarding your policy I believe making it dependent on traffic is more reasonable. Conceivably an affiliate could send you 100,000 hits and still not make a sale. Also the proper thing to do is close the account and send the affiliate payment perhaps minus a reasonable processing fee.

Thanks for the feedback signupdamnit, I will look into making this change moving forwards. :thumbsup

You could just pay out those accounts (that didn't reach the payout minimum you set) at the end of the year. That would be an honest way to handle things and prevent the problem you are referring to. It would also encourage small and beginning affiliates to try your program. The way you are doing things right now creates the impression of a company that is so desperate it will do anything to save a buck.

Don't take this as a personal attack, see it as a word of advice. Removing that clause from your TOS will do a lot more to save your reputation and even promote your company while "our lawyers approved it" style posts usually attract more negative publicity on the boards.
:2 cents:

Hello Andy!

I have always wondered about programs pushing penis enlargement pills, do they know they are actually scamming people?
Andy..do you realize that some of the sites you promote are selling snake oils?
Can you give me a link to a study where it shows how exactly a pill can enlarge a penis?
Please prove me wrong with links to studies that say that penis enlargement pills actually do work.

Yes, penis enlargement pills are scamming people. There is no pill that will enlarge your penis, which is why I completely quite selling my own label. Exercises do work however. Regarding MoreNiche, They just don't seem to give a damn about you. I've been screwed over a few times now and the fact is eventually they just stop emailing you. Darren has vanished many times in the middle of deals, I wouldn't trust him at all. :2 cents:

LOL, no inconsistency between those sentences at all.

As somebody else has pointed out, if your interest is in closing out inactive accounts, you pay the money as you go. Routinely, every penny.

Any affiliate program that does not routinely and zealously pay every dime that affiliates have earned is shouting to affiliates that they should stay far, far away. Because if they are casual about your nickels and dimes, they'll be even more casual when the chance arises to grab your thousands.

oops that really sucks

GFY, More Niche scammed me out of 2 commisions that with my 3rd sale would have initiated a payment for me. There are simply too many affiliate programs with integrity to deal with than the shady fuckers at More Niche...spin it anyway you want, you're stealing from affiliates that sent you sales.....

What a complete load of horse shit.

100

:disgust