Originally Posted by AndyMN (Post 17609191)

we updated the public terms (the ones you agree to when you join) but have overlooked a 'copy' of the terms which is on show in the affiliate area, this will be fixed and only one copy of the terms will be accessible moving forwards.

Originally Posted by AndyMN (Post 17609191)

An email was sent to affiliates alerting them to the change of terms.

Originally Posted by AndyMN (Post 17609191)

This process is in place to protect our business for accumulating large debtors and has been approved by both our lawyers and accountants.

Originally Posted by AndyMN (Post 17609191)

This process is in place to protect our active affiliates and ensure we can continue to pay the large commissions that we do.

Originally Posted by AndyMN (Post 17609191)

ANY affiliate network which does not have a similar process in place is just asking for trouble and maybe they do not have the handle on their accounts which we do.

Originally Posted by AndyMN (Post 17609191)

We pay over 200 affiliates every two weeks without fail

Originally Posted by AndyMN (Post 17609191)

we always pay ALL affiliates as per our terms and we do guarantee every payout (again according to our terms).

Originally Posted by AndyMN (Post 17609191)

as a good will gesture I will be willing to send this to you, please email me your payment details.

Thanks.

Originally Posted by Angry Jew Cat (Post 17609872)

Has anyone had any issues with SellHealth's program? I have been looking at both. Was considering pushing both, but I'll probably stick with SH for now if the feedback from affiliates there is mostly positive...

Originally Posted by u-Bob (Post 17609901)

am hungry, need food, so I'll keep it short: SH rocks.

Originally Posted by AndyMN (Post 17609191)

This process is in place to protect our business for accumulating large debtors and has been approved by both our lawyers and accountants.

This process is in place to protect our active affiliates and ensure we can continue to pay the large commissions that we do.

ANY affiliate network which does not have a similar process in place is just asking for trouble and maybe they do not have the handle on their accounts which we do.

Originally Posted by AndyMN (Post 17609191)

Hi Guys,

First of all I am very sorry about the delay in posting here, I have only just been informed about the thread and so here I am.

In regards to the clause 7.10 this was indeed added on January 1st 2009 as part of a full accounting review, we updated the public terms (the ones you agree to when you join) but have overlooked a 'copy' of the terms which is on show in the affiliate area, this will be fixed and only one copy of the terms will be accessible moving forwards.

An email was sent to affiliates alerting them to the change of terms.

Originally Posted by AndyMN (Post 17609191)

This process is in place to protect our business for accumulating large debtors and has been approved by both our lawyers and accountants.

This process is in place to protect our active affiliates and ensure we can continue to pay the large commissions that we do.

ANY affiliate network which does not have a similar process in place is just asking for trouble and maybe they do not have the handle on their accounts which we do.

We pay over 200 affiliates every two weeks without fail, we always pay ALL affiliates as per our terms and we do guarantee every payout (again according to our terms).

Originally Posted by AndyMN (Post 17609191)

I am sorry you have lost this money and as a good will gesture I will be willing to send this to you, please email me your payment details.

Thanks.

Originally Posted by ViagraAffiliate (Post 17609380)

Hello Andy!

I have always wondered about programs pushing penis enlargement pills, do they know they are actually scamming people?
Andy..do you realize that some of the sites you promote are selling snake oils?
Can you give me a link to a study where it shows how exactly a pill can enlarge a penis?
Please prove me wrong with links to studies that say that penis enlargement pills actually do work.

Originally Posted by AndyMN (Post 17609191)

An email is automatically sent on the 11th month of inactivity explaining that if your account remains inactive then your balance will be removed. The minimum balance is only $100 so that is the most anybody can lose.

Originally Posted by Tempest (Post 17610238)

Here's the problem with this policy... I believe I actually fell into this and you guys removed my balance... I never received any email... I'm not sure though if that's exactly what happened or not though.

The most important thing however is that all that time I was sending traffic... Quite a bit if I remember correctly but it never converted... Now is that my fault??? I think not... Now I could have just dumped you guys for "screwing" me but I didn't... A few months ago I decided to put more effort into the type of products you have for sale, did up more targeted advertising etc. and have been making both of us some sales every month... Now if I had dumped you guys for screwing me, you would have lost that traffic and sales to your competitors... In other words, you would have ended up fucking yourself over for having such a short term mentality.

As someone else I think said, a MUCH better poilicy would be to just cash out those affiliates if the company is truly so concerned about this issue.

Originally Posted by candyflip (Post 17610548)

Sounds a little scammy now to me.

Originally Posted by Machete_ (Post 17603596)

that's what you get for peddling snake oil

Originally Posted by Hermes (Post 17613457)

It might not be "fair" but I think this happens with almost every sponsor, that they don't pay until you meet the minimum payment limit, and often disable accounts that haven't generated any sales or traffic in 12 months. But not every case like this end up being 3+ pages long thread here..

Originally Posted by Hermes (Post 17613457)

It might not be "fair" but I think this happens with almost every sponsor, that they don't pay until you meet the minimum payment limit, and often disable accounts that haven't generated any sales or traffic in 12 months. But not every case like this end up being 3+ pages long thread here..

Originally Posted by Hermes (Post 17613457)

disable accounts that haven't generated any sales or traffic in 12 months.

Originally Posted by rogueteens (Post 17613490)

really. almost every sponsor removes accounts and takes the money? name them. go on.

Originally Posted by Chris (Post 17614076)

pornpf69 - i'd be more than happy to credit your oainternet.com account whatever you lost with them. Let me know.

Regards,
Chris

Originally Posted by stocktrader23 (Post 17614292)

"OA INTERNET SERVICES LTD reserves the right to terminate your account if it is idle for more than two months."

http://www.oainternet.com/terms.html

Originally Posted by will76 (Post 17614531)

oh how ironic that was.... ouch.

Originally Posted by zeuse (Post 17613597)

You know if you swipe your paxum card up the crack of your arse your dick grows another 4 inches.

Originally Posted by SomeCreep (Post 17614588)

Yeah, Moreniche a.k.a Mensniche started out great, but over the years, they went downhill. The penis enlargement industry isn't an easy business. Especially, after god knows who in the government said that penis pills can't endorse enlargement, only enhancement. After that, Moreniche sold the majority of their company products to LeadingEdgeCash (who's tracking system sucks btw) and are now just a shell of the company they used to be.

Originally Posted by Chris (Post 17614076)

pornpf69 - i'd be more than happy to credit your oainternet.com account whatever you lost with them. Let me know.

Regards,
Chris

Originally Posted by beerptrol (Post 17613956)

Wouldn't the right thing to do is pay them what is owed and close their account.
But i guess every nickel and dime adds to your bottom line. and I guess you need the money to pay the lawyers and accountants that gave you the green light

Originally Posted by SmokeyTheBear (Post 17609831)

sorry but that sounds like you fucked up and expect your affiliates to suffer because of your fuckup.



sorry but that is unacceptable. if you are going to change terms to seize money people earned and were promised under your old terms , you should have implemented a system that webmasters AGREE to the new terms.



i have a process in place to protect myself from accumulating large debtors too, i pay them. It is a novel idea, just might work.

Do your lawyers or accountants send you sales ? then i would expect you get approval from the people MAKING you money , not the people taking your money :) just a suggestion though.





cmon now, thats a load of horseshit, how does this "protect active affiliates" in ANY way.
Not much comfort knowing you are paying new affiliates with money seized from old affiliates. kind of a ponzi scheme isn't it..




what kind of process would that be ? the one where you have 2 different terms, the one where your affiliates aren't aware of tos changes ? The only time my accounts have EVER been closed due to inactivity from any sponsor i have been sent a check with the current amount due.






i think if you are going to quote how many affiliates you pay it is only fair you post how many people don't get paid .




that is not much of a guarantee if the true disclaimer is " unless we change the terms tomorrow and decide not to pay you because our lawyers and accountants say its cool "





this last quote is the ONLY thing you should have said in this thread :2 cents:..

Originally Posted by SomeCreep (Post 17614588)

Yeah, Moreniche a.k.a Mensniche started out great, but over the years, they went downhill. The penis enlargement industry isn't an easy business. Especially, after god knows who in the government said that penis pills can't endorse enlargement, only enhancement. After that, Moreniche sold the majority of their company products to LeadingEdgeCash (who's tracking system sucks btw) and are now just a shell of the company they used to be.

Originally Posted by will76 (Post 17620670)

great to see the govt put their foot down, because if you believe a pill is really going to make your cock 1-3 inches bigger you need to get your head examined.

IF pills like that really worked, major drug companies would be selling them, they would be FDA approved and the company selling them would be traded on the stock market. All of this snake oil shit is unproven, smoke and mirrors sold to desperate people. Nice to see the govt step in and regulate their deceptive marketing, even if it was just a little of what they should have done to them.

Originally Posted by Socks (Post 17613536)

In adult, I've only heard of this from dating sponsors like AFF.

Are there any traditional paysite programs that have any kind of similar terms? Would be nice to know.

Originally Posted by TeenSluts (Post 17628589)

good to know, will be removing moreniche links

Originally Posted by DVTimes (Post 17633540)

hope its got sorted

Originally Posted by pornpf69 (Post 17635513)

that is what I am hoping... but so far they don't seem to give a DAMN about their affiliates...
if they have a chance they will screw anyone!!