Mine too

I never got past verification. They want more ID than your average identity theif needs.

Mine is "submitting", whatever that means :)

is that "no pun intended" ? :winkwink:

Please tell me how everyone doing nothing is the right solution?

yeah............. something like that:1orglaugh

Dave & Shap.

What's happening right now is that the webmasters and the services are dictating the direction as to which service fills the void of ePass... As industry leaders, it's you guys that should be driving this process as opposed to siting on the sidelines and seeing how things fall out.

Yes Paxum is brand spanking new... Yes, a lot of the other options feel risky... I'd suggest you look into emc2payouts. They haven't posted much on here but there's some decent information about them. You might also try contacting the Scoregroup as I think they said they were looking into integrating them.

I did meet with Octav, he has invited me to meet with one of the backers who is a lawyer in Montreal but I haven't had time with holidays and moving hosts. I will be setting up a meeting later this month hopefully.

As for cards I was given a test card and it worked at a few restaurants and at the atm with no issues. I was amazed that not a single person asked me for ID, the name on the card actually said "test" lol.

With that said, if you decide to use Paxum or anyone else in the e-wallet game I hope you've learned your lesson and won't keep a balance. I don't thinks any of these processors or money handlers open up with the intentions of fucking people but along the lines something goes wrong. Just protect yourself so if something does go wrong, you limit your liabilities.

I think what is throwing people off is the 4 or 5 board reps who have historically jumped job to job, none with any real credibility and one looking like Steve Perry. From a user perspective, there isn't much risk, provided you can get a card (which remains to be seen), you can withdraw the funds daily. From a program perspective I have to agree with Shap, who wants to wire these unknowns with no track record and a seemingly sketchy setup. Besides the fact they are setup in Montreal (the North American center of cybercrime), and have a CEO named 'Octav' (presumably Eastern European). Again, I'm generalizing, but based on all this, I don't blame anybody questioning this operation.

PR Dave, get in touch please, jkedvessy at hotmail.com :thumbsup

And It's always the same 10 people over and over again who post negative about paxum.

:2 cents:

Sorry shap mostly I agree with you but with this one I do not agree with you AT ALL ... not even close.

Shap when I send you 100 sales a day and I want to be paid on paxum then thats what you do. Maybe you won't like it, but if that is what I want then you going to do it.

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Jumped job to job? Personally I was with WEG for 3.5 years, prior to that I was with a marketing company for over 4 years. You really should get your facts straight...

Our business is incorporated and registered and has been audited by both Mastercard and the Canadian government, plus the bank we use (BMO) is protected by the Canadian government as well.

I know the world isn't fair, but judging someone by their name alone seems a little crazy in my opinion. Personally I think making blanket statements without any actual evidence is very lame :2 cents:

What a stupid reply ... grow up idiot.

One more thing ..

What do I know about most sponsors in this industry .. nothing nada, ..
And still I send them my sales and "I HOPE" they pay me what they owe me. Week after week. Month after month.

50% of all sponsors don't even have a public address or phonenumber.

:1orglaugh Sure when are you going to start sending? :winkwink:

If someone is going to be sending that type of volume that is serious business and in my 14 years of business all serious business has been done by wire. I don't see why someone doing that volume would prefer paxum to wire. That in itself would raise a red flag imo.

Remember I'm bitter right now with pay systems running with my money. It's happened twice this year. So don't mind me :winkwink:

QFT.
Any sponsors I earn over $1K/month or more I always wire or checks from the program owner itself. It would be stupid and risky to put your money in any money cards. Only if I earn a few hundred here and there will I send it to the card.

Ruth, all I've posted is why I think people are critical of Paxum. Certainly nothing about Paxum has screamed CREDIBILITY thus far. Alot of people here have had bad experiences with payment processors out of Montreal (myvirtualcard ring a bell?) and with shady Eastern Europeans in general. Paxum may be the greatest thing since sliced bread and may be around for the next 100 years, but people are rightfully skeptical after what the industry has witnessed over the years. It seems like Paxum has thrown up all the red flags thus far to have alot of doubters. Trust will come with time, not board whoring. If you notice I did say that the risk to a person who withdraws their balance daily in cash is minimal. It is the programs who send large wires that have to worry. This is why getting programs on board will be your major challenge. Seriously, I wish you all the best, the industry needs as many payment options as possible, but understand that respect is earned around here.

Stop... nobody believes you have any 'sales'. You are just a paxum pay-per-post rep.:1orglaugh

Shap..

50% of all sponsor we work with pay us by wire. I have no problem with that.
But we work with +200 sponsors. Any idea what a pain in the ass that is with all those smaller payouts?

The only thing I say is that "WE" decide how and where we like to be paid.

:2 cents:

Shap, I'm 100% sure that you have paxum as payment option in less then 2 months from now. You will see :)

This here lies the problem with using board reps to represent the company's interests.

OK, so the company is incorporated. I know alot about payment processing, and know that you have not been audited by Mastercard (at least not yet, and you do not want to go through that process... prime example epassporte). You have a third party white label card issuing agreement you say with Choice Bank in Belize, which is relatively easy to obtain and requires no significant investment or major due diligence. What do you mean audited by the Canadian government? The tax authorities? That is not something to brag about or make public on this forum if it is indeed the case. So the government (through the tax authority section, called the CRA in Canada) has audited Paxum. That will make alot of potential users of your services very uncomfortable. What do you mean that BMO is protected by the Canadian government? Are you saying that when a customer opens an account with you that they are opening an account with BMO and their money is insured as if they had an account with BMO? We both know that is not the case and you should be careful as to how you represent (or in this case misrepresent) Paxum's relationship with BMO. Just my :2 cents:

Ofcourse :1orglaugh:1orglaugh

Desperation.

I wouldn't touch any of them now.

yes I made a mistake I'm sorry. It's not the Canadian government it's the bank itself who have evaluated us.

You have made a number of false statements, and thats my point. This company seems driven by a bunch of board whores who respond to every 'paxum' post within seconds, not even verifying the accuracy of the information that they are relaying. I would stick with customer service issues, helping account holders, and quit trying to defend the company when you really know little to nothing as to how it operates. Frankly it is embarrassing and that is what is creating the distrust around here. Paxum's own actions going forward will be what creates user trust or distrust, but for now it is wait and see, so you shouldn't be so shocked about that.

Some guy who has a dick stretcher owns it.

the people who were using it as a bank, yeah I agree I hope the learned their lesson. But there is still a big risk using these companies even if you with draw out the daily max.


Although, simply saying just transfer the money out right away still wont reduce all of your chances of getting screwed.


1. For program owners like yourself, how many companies had just loaded up their epass to send out payments but it got locked down? I heard a bunch of companies say they transfered a LOT of money to epass but then the wallet was frozen before they could send it out to affiliates (bad timing, probably not).

2. The daily limit is just that, daily. Most companies send checks weekly or bi weekly not daily. For the affiliates that actually make some decent money they will need more than 1 or even 2 days after they receive a payment to with draw it out.

3. Even if you intend to with draw the money "right away" it doesn't always happen like that, everyone can't run to an ATM the second the money is transfered.

While epass screwed a lot of people with bad intentions (using it to beat taxes) and people that used it as a bank, there were a lot of people who just got caught do to circumstances (timing and limits). The same thing can still happen with any of these companies even with the best intentions. It is best to go with the company that you feel most confident with to try to reduce your risk as much as possible of getting screwed.

but the difference is i am asking valid questions not just sucking cock blindly.

QFT. :2 cents:

hell that could be me then :1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh


j/k

That is EXACTLY what I'm doing :winkwink:

Waiting for my card :)

Why did you choose to bank in Belize ?

you have a point there will76.
So for me it is a no-no
The idea to give all my info to a (former) snake-oil seller is not in my book.

So that we could provide our prepaid credit cards to International webmasters.

My god, man when I offer you $5000 paxum money for one of your domains (lets say amsterdamsmut.org) then you open up an account with them before Will76 can blink his eyes.

lol :1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

Kinda confused by your first statement. No one at paxum has jumped from job to job

me personally i've been with oainternet for 6-7 years.

What kind of credibility do we not have? I mean i've bought tons of "bros" drinks at shows and done the board thing :1orglaugh

I dont blame anyone for doing their homework on us either - it's your money you should do as much homework as you can on the company :)

what drives me nuts is the people who have concerns about paxum or have publicly bashed us refuse to talk to me 1 on 1 ... except will76 he was more than willing to talk about his issues with us to me on icq

i have icq'd plently of doubters or people who addresses concerns and none of them ever answer - but they are more than willing to talk trash on here ... go figure

i don't think he is a "former", pretty sure he still owns/runs the penis pill/stretcher/ get laid oils, fat loss drugs, whatever crap.

It's hard to test some solution until some sponsors would pay with it, also people don't want a payment system that's used only by couple small programs. Many former epass customers outside u.s. can't or don't want to take checks or wires, so the options are limited and they probably want some money soon, rather than waiting another couple months.


And to people who don't like the reps or answers that Paxum has given on boards, why do you think you don't hear much stuff about other similar payment systems? Simply because the other systems have nonexistant presense on boards! Does the silence of other systems make them more reliable?

Bottom line is, some people want to be paid soon, and check/wire is not a great option for everyone.

We're probably lucky they did do this.

Chris, I've thought about my post and saying that a person has little personal risk using paxum if they withdraw the cash daily. However, after reviewing your account opening required docs and information I retract that. You are asking for enough information to open a paxum account that an identity thief would have a field day with. I think there is a huge risk in even opening a paxum account at this stage, given the general sketchiness and unprofessionalism of what is a financial company. This is not a shot at you personally, as you are only a rep and do what you are told to do which is come here and defend the company, but truly you cannot guarantee the safety of the personal information. I don't want a bunch of inexperienced remote reps handling my information.:2 cents:

This is a key point IMO. I would never trust a historically sketchy Romanian operating out of Montreal with my personal info. Maybe I'm painting with a big brush, but thats not a risk I'm comfortable taking.

So what are you going to use?

None of the "remote reps" have any access to any of your information.
No account information.
No uploaded documents.
Nothing.

Not sure. I'd have to investigate Payoneer a bit. They seem a bit more established, but I can't make the call at the moment. Personally I don't take payouts unless they are at least a few thousand dollars, so bank wire makes sense for me. I used epassporte only cause I could open an account with virtually no information other than a name and address. Paxum just stopped short of asking for my next of kin and blood type.

You really do not trust paxum based on the owners name and your guess on his ethnicity but you are willing to trust payoneer?

Google the CEO of payoneer and come back to this thread and tell me your thoughts then :1orglaugh