but the difference is i am asking valid questions not just sucking cock blindly.

QFT. :2 cents:

hell that could be me then :1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh


j/k

That is EXACTLY what I'm doing :winkwink:

Waiting for my card :)

Why did you choose to bank in Belize ?

you have a point there will76.
So for me it is a no-no
The idea to give all my info to a (former) snake-oil seller is not in my book.

So that we could provide our prepaid credit cards to International webmasters.

My god, man when I offer you $5000 paxum money for one of your domains (lets say amsterdamsmut.org) then you open up an account with them before Will76 can blink his eyes.

lol :1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

Kinda confused by your first statement. No one at paxum has jumped from job to job

me personally i've been with oainternet for 6-7 years.

What kind of credibility do we not have? I mean i've bought tons of "bros" drinks at shows and done the board thing :1orglaugh

I dont blame anyone for doing their homework on us either - it's your money you should do as much homework as you can on the company :)

what drives me nuts is the people who have concerns about paxum or have publicly bashed us refuse to talk to me 1 on 1 ... except will76 he was more than willing to talk about his issues with us to me on icq

i have icq'd plently of doubters or people who addresses concerns and none of them ever answer - but they are more than willing to talk trash on here ... go figure

i don't think he is a "former", pretty sure he still owns/runs the penis pill/stretcher/ get laid oils, fat loss drugs, whatever crap.

It's hard to test some solution until some sponsors would pay with it, also people don't want a payment system that's used only by couple small programs. Many former epass customers outside u.s. can't or don't want to take checks or wires, so the options are limited and they probably want some money soon, rather than waiting another couple months.


And to people who don't like the reps or answers that Paxum has given on boards, why do you think you don't hear much stuff about other similar payment systems? Simply because the other systems have nonexistant presense on boards! Does the silence of other systems make them more reliable?

Bottom line is, some people want to be paid soon, and check/wire is not a great option for everyone.

We're probably lucky they did do this.

Chris, I've thought about my post and saying that a person has little personal risk using paxum if they withdraw the cash daily. However, after reviewing your account opening required docs and information I retract that. You are asking for enough information to open a paxum account that an identity thief would have a field day with. I think there is a huge risk in even opening a paxum account at this stage, given the general sketchiness and unprofessionalism of what is a financial company. This is not a shot at you personally, as you are only a rep and do what you are told to do which is come here and defend the company, but truly you cannot guarantee the safety of the personal information. I don't want a bunch of inexperienced remote reps handling my information.:2 cents:

This is a key point IMO. I would never trust a historically sketchy Romanian operating out of Montreal with my personal info. Maybe I'm painting with a big brush, but thats not a risk I'm comfortable taking.

So what are you going to use?

None of the "remote reps" have any access to any of your information.
No account information.
No uploaded documents.
Nothing.

Not sure. I'd have to investigate Payoneer a bit. They seem a bit more established, but I can't make the call at the moment. Personally I don't take payouts unless they are at least a few thousand dollars, so bank wire makes sense for me. I used epassporte only cause I could open an account with virtually no information other than a name and address. Paxum just stopped short of asking for my next of kin and blood type.

You really do not trust paxum based on the owners name and your guess on his ethnicity but you are willing to trust payoneer?

Google the CEO of payoneer and come back to this thread and tell me your thoughts then :1orglaugh

So what exactly is their purpose? Just to promote Paxum here? Maybe thats why everybody is lashing out against you guys? Nobody likes a pumper.

Like I said I have not done enough research to be certain, just know they have been around for a bit. You could be entirely right however.

Isn't that the same bank that Payoneer uses?

as far as I'm aware...

OK just did. The one thing I get out of it is that they seem far more established and don't have a million useless reps here blowing each other. The fact that Yuval could be involved in a plot to kill the leader of Hammas is a plus IMO.:thumbsup

The remote reps are doing way more than just posting on message boards.

They are your connections to our program - just because they cant go in and see all your personal details ( that should be a good thing ) doesnt mean they are not doing anything.

They work directly with companies and get them everything they need. They know the system in and out.

No different than half the remote reps working programs.

Also there are only 4 or 5 people here on gfy that i am aware of that have something bad to say about us.

Do tell.

Ruth, seriously - why does CashX send out cards issued by Palm Desert National Bank in California internationally then?

One of the reasons could be that they issue Travel Cards. I might be wrong. All i know is that from our negotiations with numerous US banks, they all wanted majority of the cardholders to be from US and use the card in the continental USA. Some US banks did offer a solution for our international clients but the limits and other restrictions made us look offshore for greater flexibility.

So travel cards weren't an option for you? To be honest I wasn't able to find a real difference between a MC travel card and a regular MC debit card.

Just out of interest, personally I have no problem with you using Choice Bank.

Travel Cards have some limitations on where and how it can be used. As I previously stated the limits are very low on such cards and we want our users to withdraw money faster and not keep it in the e-wallet. Don't forget we make money only once people make the transactions. Now the higher the limits (like $2500 per day), the faster people can withdraw their funds. Plus due to the recent Epassporte events, this should be another reason to use Paxum.

Credit Card Status: Printing :)

Don't mean to bust your balls but your so wrong. Due to recent Epass events, this is another reason not to send your money to another offshore bank. If we learn anything from epass this is it, plain and simple. I also did a due dilligence on all alternative and I found that by using an Choice Bank you are putting yourself at a larger risk. Choice offer card services to other company as well like paytoo.com, payoneer and who know how many more but like other offshore bank they also issue card to high-risk businesses, meaning that if one of these company that use Choice violated Visa/MC policy like gambling or whatever, the Bank will gone tumbling down even if it wasn't the fault of Paxum.

CashX on the other hand operate in at least 5 countries and issue card worldwide base on your geographical location I believe. Not to mention they been in biz about 4 years. Furthermore, their money are insured, so that if PimpRoll for example send in 20K to pay their affiliates and the bank go bust they are protected. So it understandably why they aren't willing to sign up with anyone yet as I'm sure they lost a lot from the Epass mess.

Granted, I'll give paxum the upper hand when it comes to card convenience although CashX is not that much of a difference. But I can say with certain down the road another card service will fail and when they do people will be scrambling again. The convenience of the card like max withdraw should not be anyone main concern. Their concern should be which card services is the SAFEST.

I don't have an issue with Paxum as people may think. I actually seriously consider signing up at one point until someone on this board introduce CashX. I just felt CashX is a SAFER alternative.

MY PAXUM CARD JUST ARRIVED ;) Now I am going to try to activate it and make first ATM withdrawal!

As far as I know right now people with Epassporte Visas are in a better position getting their money then the people who have funds in the E-Wallet.

I don't know why you bring up the FDIC insured issue all the time. I am sure Epass also held a lot of their money in an FDIC insured bank and what happened? It only protects you from the bank going belly up and that's it. You make such a big deal about it and portray this as if FDIC will pay people if CashX decided to run away with the money, the government will pay for it. (I am not saying CashX will do so) :)
Now most of the webmasters realize that a chance of having the Bank disappearing is dramatically lower then E-Wallet company taking the funds and closing the shop. So with our solution we allow them to withdraw their funds faster, thus reducing their risks.

I have paxum card and work with no problems

Activation is easy, work online and withdraw with no problems

Well, Steve, but at the same time you or at least your fellow Paxum reps always repeat again and again that you use BMO which is backed by Canadian Government. It's exactly the same, and doesn't mean at all that it's easier for us or even guaranteed to get our money out if you fail.

Which is the reason I don't care what Paxum or CashX reps write about FDIC or Canadian Gov ensured funds, as it's just a help if the bank is shutting down, which wasn't the case with ePass - the vulnerable point are usually the e-wallet systems, not the banks used.

Personally, I chose Paxum because withdraw limits are much higher and I don't like CashX's inactive card fee of $5 per month.

Thanks for the info :thumbsup

Good choice :) We have more and more sponsors joining daily. A lot of them are very big and should make announcements shortly.

Not really. Both are as bad: http://www.epassportelawsuit.com/


Because an extra layer of protection does bring me a piece of mind. Epass only kept Mallick's money in FDIC bank, the rest of us offshore. Please note that I never think you guys will do something that will cause the bank or card to go collapse. I'm more worry with other card services that Choice also issue. What we don't know about them such as what the purpose of their operation like gambling. If MC decided to take away card from Choice due to one of these illegal card operator then that will affect paxum as well. I think the people who work at the Choice will most likely steal the money than paxum do. Once they get lots of funds in not only from paxum but others as well they'll can't help but use it to either spend it for themselves or operate as a Ponzi skeme if they invest the money they recieve and that investment fails. That's what bank do they invest money and give out higher return and especially with offshore they are pressure to give even higher returns. I'm worry that they will either spend/stole or invest the money from difference card company they issued that deposit into the bank, weather, you tell people to widthraw it asap or not it not the point because once the bank it collapse that's it you are doom and people will be scrambling again. How else will they be able to use the card? I hope you understand what I'm saying.

I know some people are concern about cashx fee, but to me it pretty comparable. Beside I'm not going to bitch about something that is $2 more just to widthdraw. I just rather be safe than sorry. Maybe down the road 2 years from now I might sign up but just not now.

Steve, never heard of you until you pop up but I must say you do pop up for the good. You don't sound like some of your other stupid trolling reps just yet and hopefully not. My advice would be don't become them and admit it there are issue with paxum or paxum have limitations and being up front and honest not like the reps trying to make it look like paxum is perfect or skid the truth to make it looks good. Just remember people on this board is not stupid. That is all I'm going to say in this thread. Best of luck to you.