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will76 10-14-2010 10:56 AM

When I switched to diet drinks about 8 years ago I lost about 10-15 pounds over the course of a month. Nothing else in my diet changed, i didn't exercise more the only difference was to stop consuming about 1500+ calories a day in sugar from soft drinks and sports drinks.

Drinking diet doesn't cause you to want to eat more unless it is a mental thing and people think that they *can* eat more or bad because they are drinking a diet drink vs a regular one. I can see how people's mentality can fuck it up, but that just goes back to stupid people do stupid things and can be applied to anything.

Bryan G 10-14-2010 11:00 AM

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Originally Posted by will76 (Post 17606632)
When I switched to diet drinks about 8 years ago I lost about 10-15 pounds over the course of a month. Nothing else in my diet changed, i didn't exercise more the only difference was to stop consuming about 1500+ calories a day in sugar from soft drinks and sports drinks.

Drinking diet doesn't cause you to want to eat more unless it is a mental thing and people think that they *can* eat more or bad because they are drinking a diet drink vs a regular one. I can see how people's mentality can fuck it up, but that just goes back to stupid people do stupid things and can be applied to anything.

Slight changes is all it takes sometimes. I remember a few years ago I quit drinking for 3-4months, I dropped 15lbs within weeks. Need to quit the booze again and drop 10lbs, lol

minicivan 10-14-2010 11:04 AM

the article does not say "diet sodas will make you fat" it says "Calorie-Free Soft Drinks May Make You Fat". They showed nothing to suggest a cause and effect relationship. All they suggested was that people who drink diet soft drinks are most likely to not lose fat or to gain fat. Go into any McDonalds and watch the herd eating their 1500 calorie lunch with a diet coke and its pretty easy to understand that finding. Forgetting about anyones psuedo-science and conspiracy theories about nutrasweet or anything else, people rationalize eating more and eating worse by drinking diet soda.

Serge Litehead 10-14-2010 11:05 AM

Will, that probably was 10-15 pounds of excessive body water. i doubt fat would go away that fast without any extra effort

strobi 10-14-2010 11:09 AM

If you drink 1.5 liter of regular coke/day and you switch to 1.5 liter of diet Coke you WILL lose fat (if everything else stays the same, diet, etc). You consume 630 kcal/day LESS!!! This isn't rocket science.

Tom_PM 10-14-2010 11:10 AM

You can brew your own soda. Just some flavor extract, some sweetner of your choice, some water, some plastic bottles and some champagne yeast (or keg it).

strobi 10-14-2010 11:12 AM

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Originally Posted by holograph (Post 17606663)
Will, that probably was 10-15 pounds of excessive body water. i doubt fat would go away that fast without any extra effort

If he indeed reduce his daily intake by 1500 kcals, just by dropping massive amounts of sugar drinks, he would indeed lose fat fasssstttt. 10-15 pounds would be possible, easy even!

Serge Litehead 10-14-2010 11:14 AM

how can you guys drink soda all the time? diet or not, its like bad childhood habit carried through life..

urbanpimp 10-14-2010 11:19 AM

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Originally Posted by PR_Glen (Post 17606349)
it has zero calories in it.. its not making anyone fat.. it's the people drinking it with two big macs that are getting fat...

:thumbsup:thumbsup:thumbsup

Rankings 10-14-2010 11:21 AM

Mad Drinkers

Rankings 10-14-2010 11:21 AM

50 Diet Sodas

Serge Litehead 10-14-2010 11:24 AM

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Originally Posted by strobi (Post 17606692)
If he indeed reduce his daily intake by 1500 kcals, just by dropping massive amounts of sugar drinks, he would indeed lose fat fasssstttt. 10-15 pounds would be possible, easy even!

last year, first time in my life i picked up 30 extra pounds withing 3 month - i admit i was stuffing my self 2.5 times a day without much exercise. it took me 6 month without extra effort, organically get to my normal range just by back to my normal dieting. after that experience i won't believe fat can go away fast naturally :) maybe extra body water held up by sugars or salt but definitely not fat. btw in my life i consumed lots and lots of sugar - never been a problem with weight, only health issue sugar gave me are teeth problems.

WarChild 10-14-2010 11:43 AM

And yet I lost 75 pounds drinking diet Soda the whole time.

timlover 10-14-2010 12:52 PM

I can't believe I read this whole thread and none of your were even close to the scientific reason diet sodas make you add weight.

The human body works on condition responses. If your body is used to exercising, it increasing your metabolism. You burn more stored energy than you intake, you lose weight. If you stop exercising, it takes a while for your body to slow back down its metabolism. Conditioned to your enviroment.

Sugar/glucose eventually gets stored as fat. Your body is conditioned to the sweet taste of sugar over years to then release insulin, which induces the storage function.

You drink sweet tasting diet soda you still trigger your insulin response which induces your body to store the calories that your body has in your system from your daily food, regardless of the caloric makeup of that food or the calorie count in the drink.

Reduce your bodies GI response by not drinking dite/regular soda or other sweet tasting stuff, eventually you reduce the insulin response to store calories,..

JD 10-14-2010 01:10 PM

Hmm... i guess i didn't really lose 50lbs by switching to diet

marketsmart 10-14-2010 01:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Max Cannon (Post 17606443)
I don't have a link but it's general knowledge I've lived with to not get fat.

For example you can get the skinniest person that never gets fat and make them eat McDonalds everyday and guaranteed they will get fat because McDonalds food will never spoil, even after 5 years and you will never digest that food

If you eat something like an apple or any kind of food that will naturally rot then there is no way you can get fat because it can only stay in your body for so long before it has to recycle itself back into the earth.

So its very easy and you never have to read any food labels or count calories. Just ask yourself before you eat a food "will this food spoil/rot?" If the answer is yes then it is good! :thumbsup



this is the funniest shit i have ever heard.... :1orglaugh





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dyna mo 10-14-2010 01:15 PM

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Originally Posted by timlover (Post 17607023)
I can't believe I read this whole thread and none of your were even close to the scientific reason diet sodas make you add weight.

The human body works on condition responses. If your body is used to exercising, it increasing your metabolism. You burn more stored energy than you intake, you lose weight. If you stop exercising, it takes a while for your body to slow back down its metabolism. Conditioned to your enviroment.

Sugar/glucose eventually gets stored as fat. Your body is conditioned to the sweet taste of sugar over years to then release insulin, which induces the storage function.

You drink sweet tasting diet soda you still trigger your insulin response which induces your body to store the calories that your body has in your system from your daily food, regardless of the caloric makeup of that food or the calorie count in the drink.

Reduce your bodies GI response by not drinking dite/regular soda or other sweet tasting stuff, eventually you reduce the insulin response to store calories,..

how would this apply to non-insulin producing diabetics?

gmr324 10-14-2010 01:24 PM

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You have to eat food that can spoil so you body can shit it out. When food has preservatives it doesn't spoil and stays in your body, that's how people get fat.
This is a fascinating thread. This logic with eliminating food with preservatives makes a lot of sense. I once read a simple rule to follow. Avoid any food that your great grandmother wouldn't recognize. Of course, all this food talk is useless unless you exercise regularly to increase your metabolism.

Tom_PM 10-14-2010 01:25 PM

So drinking a diet soda versus a non diet will save you only the calories contained in the drink. Well, thats all they claim to do really which is an interesting twist, lol.

dyna mo 10-14-2010 01:25 PM

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Originally Posted by gmr324 (Post 17607149)
This is a fascinating thread. This logic with eliminating food with preservatives makes a lot of sense. I once read a simple rule to follow. Avoid any food that your great grandmother wouldn't recognize. Of course, all this food talk is useless unless you exercise regularly to increase your metabolism.

metabolism can be increased by eating frequent small meals as well as exercise.

WarChild 10-14-2010 01:28 PM

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Originally Posted by timlover (Post 17607023)
I can't believe I read this whole thread and none of your were even close to the scientific reason diet sodas make you add weight.

The human body works on condition responses. If your body is used to exercising, it increasing your metabolism. You burn more stored energy than you intake, you lose weight. If you stop exercising, it takes a while for your body to slow back down its metabolism. Conditioned to your enviroment.

Sugar/glucose eventually gets stored as fat. Your body is conditioned to the sweet taste of sugar over years to then release insulin, which induces the storage function.

You drink sweet tasting diet soda you still trigger your insulin response which induces your body to store the calories that your body has in your system from your daily food, regardless of the caloric makeup of that food or the calorie count in the drink.

Reduce your bodies GI response by not drinking dite/regular soda or other sweet tasting stuff, eventually you reduce the insulin response to store calories,..

Exactly. Although the last research I read on it suggested that up to about 30% of people will trigger an insulin response with a 0 calorie sweetner. So not everyone, not even most.

timlover 10-14-2010 02:52 PM

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Originally Posted by WarChild (Post 17607165)
Exactly. Although the last research I read on it suggested that up to about 30% of people will trigger an insulin response with a 0 calorie sweetner. So not everyone, not even most.

well I think it all depends on the sample groups being considered.

Were they previous full calorie soda drinkers that switched to diet and still gained weight?

Active people with high metabolisms that have only ever drank diet?

30% is quite high for statistics. That's basically 1:3 people

brassmonkey 10-14-2010 02:59 PM

dudes don't drink diet soda.

dyna mo 10-14-2010 03:01 PM

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Originally Posted by dyna mo (Post 17607116)
how would this apply to non-insulin producing diabetics?

any info on this tim?

much appreciated if so. :thumbsup

NetHorse 10-14-2010 03:11 PM

All soda is unhealthy. Who cares if it's diet or if it will make you obese. You can be skinny and die before you reach 40 just the same.

NetHorse 10-14-2010 03:15 PM

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Originally Posted by marketsmart (Post 17607110)
this is the funniest shit i have ever heard.... :1orglaugh





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Seriously, I'm convinced a lot of the people who post on this board are potheads who've never graduated high school. :drinkup

SykkBoy 10-14-2010 04:34 PM

I did the south beach diet last year and lost 35 pounds. I cut out all sugared sodas and would have 1-2 diet cokes per week. I cut out all white foods and anything processed...stuck with fruits and veggies, lean meats, etc. I would eat 5 small meals per day rather than 3 big ones.

the hardest part was cutting out any sugar (even most fruits) and all caffeine for the first two weeks...the way it was explained to me is that caffeine was causing a slow down in metabolism (I was horrible about drinking LOTS of coffee and pounding down 2-3 Monster energies per day). It was part of recalibrating my taste buds and cravings.

I cut all that out, switched to drinking mostly just water and little things like walking to the store half a mile away to pick up a few items rather than hopping in the care and driving there. I would walk to get my lunch. I didn't go on a big exercise binge, but changed the way I ate and adding in the walking, etc.

I think what happens is what was stated here...people will use the diet coke to justify ordering an extra burger, but that caffeine is also causing issues.

That said, I've recently gained a lot of the weight back (preggo sympathy weight) mainly due to moving away from the 5 small meals per day thing, bringing back the caffeine, bigger food portions, etc.

timlover 10-14-2010 04:51 PM

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Originally Posted by dyna mo (Post 17607590)
any info on this tim?

much appreciated if so. :thumbsup

I don't think that diet soda would have any direct 1 on 1 impacts on non-insulin diabetics.

Of course if you drink lots of caffeinated diet soda, probably could lead to some malnutrition or food disorders given that is supresses the appetite in some people....me....when I pop my thermal pills in the morning....they work pretty well on staving off my morning hunger before I get around to breakfast.

Soda isn't evil and horrible for you if consumed in moderation. that applies to just about everything anyways...

timlover 10-14-2010 05:00 PM

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Originally Posted by SykkBoy (Post 17607889)
the hardest part was cutting out any sugar (even most fruits) and all caffeine for the first two weeks...the way it was explained to me is that caffeine was causing a slow down in metabolism (I was horrible about drinking LOTS of coffee and pounding down 2-3 Monster energies per day). It was part of recalibrating my taste buds and cravings.

caffeine increases your metabolic rate, but increases other factors that lead to weight gain sometimes. Which include cravings, restricted blood flow, increased stress levels.

but chemically, it affects the metabolism through high rates of fatty acid oxidation, thats why its a main component in weight loss drugs.

but if having a coffee makes your ass crave a 600 calorie cheese danish, well ya know not good.

dyna mo 10-14-2010 05:50 PM

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Originally Posted by timlover (Post 17607929)
I don't think that diet soda would have any direct 1 on 1 impacts on non-insulin diabetics.

Of course if you drink lots of caffeinated diet soda, probably could lead to some malnutrition or food disorders given that is supresses the appetite in some people....me....when I pop my thermal pills in the morning....they work pretty well on staving off my morning hunger before I get around to breakfast.

Soda isn't evil and horrible for you if consumed in moderation. that applies to just about everything anyways...

right on. and i completely agree with your comments re: moderation. :thumbsup

$5 submissions 10-14-2010 05:52 PM

Sugar is extremely BAD for you.



Want to get healthier? Get rid of refined sugars from your diet.

Jaeger 10-14-2010 06:35 PM

i dont have time to read it, however i know a lot of people who drink diet soda and eat fatty shit so yeah... might be that.

i drink diet soda and im thin thin thin

also a lil sick right now stupid girl from the weekend but i digress

RyuLion 10-14-2010 07:02 PM

whoot whoot, I love news like this!

will76 10-14-2010 08:02 PM

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Originally Posted by holograph (Post 17606663)
Will, that probably was 10-15 pounds of excessive body water. i doubt fat would go away that fast without any extra effort

nope, i didn't stop drinking lol. I just stopped inhaling sugar. Try cutting out 1500 calories of sugar a day and see how much weight you drop over a month or two. I drank water but mainly diet drinks, same amount of drinks, just cut out the sugar.


Now I have dropped 15 pounds of body water before as well, did it in 3 days. I call it the Katrina Diet. After the hurricane pasted I spent 3 days with not a lot of water, and I sweat my ass off in the sun all 3 days cutting trees to clear the highway so we could get out. At night I sweat my ass of in 90 degree heat with no electricity. I weighed myself 3 days later before I had my first real meal and i had lost 15 pounds. But I gained it right back once i started eating and drinking more regularly and did less out side work got the generators running and ac back on etc.

will76 10-14-2010 08:06 PM

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Originally Posted by holograph (Post 17606744)
last year, first time in my life i picked up 30 extra pounds withing 3 month - i admit i was stuffing my self 2.5 times a day without much exercise. it took me 6 month without extra effort, organically get to my normal range just by back to my normal dieting. after that experience i won't believe fat can go away fast naturally :) maybe extra body water held up by sugars or salt but definitely not fat. btw in my life i consumed lots and lots of sugar - never been a problem with weight, only health issue sugar gave me are teeth problems.

everyone is different.

Serge Litehead 10-14-2010 08:25 PM

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Originally Posted by will76 (Post 17608373)
everyone is different.

^^ conclusion of gfy study ;) some will get fat on diet soda while others eat sugar all their life and won't gain anything.

sternyduke 10-14-2010 09:06 PM

hope not, i'm addicted to diet dr.pepper :(

fatfoo 10-14-2010 09:13 PM

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GatorB 10-15-2010 01:41 AM

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Originally Posted by czarina (Post 17606325)
A study conducted by the University of Texas Health Science Center at San Antonio followed over six hundred people ranging from twenty-five to sixty-four years old for up to eight years and found that those drinking diet soda ? even as little as one can or bottle a day ? did not lose weight and were significantly more likely to become overweight than those who drank regular soft drinks or none at all.

Read more: http://www.time.com/time/specials/pa...xzz12LpLE xds

stupid study. Could it be that people that drink diet sodas think they can eat more stuff? Not necessarily sweets?

Math says if you go from drinking 3 cans of soda a day at 150 calories each to diet soda is a decrease in 50 pounds in a year. FACT. Now if one CHOOSES to be a fat lard ass and eat more because they drink diet sada then it's CHOICE. Not some sweetener "tricking" your brain. It's a CHOICE. If one eats the same diet they WILL lose weight. Math doesn't lie.

I see people order a double quarter pounder with cheese and super-size fries and a diet coke. Well yes they are still going to be fat. Because they CHOOSE to eat to much. If they'd stop drinking deit soda they'd be even fatter because they still order the same crap.

The fact is when "expets" tell you that your only choice is drinking water if you want to lose with then guess what, most people will just keep drinking regular soda. Is that healthier? Nope.

ottopottomouse 10-15-2010 04:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Max Cannon (Post 17606443)
I don't have a link but it's general knowledge I've lived with to not get fat.

For example you can get the skinniest person that never gets fat and make them eat McDonalds everyday and guaranteed they will get fat because McDonalds food will never spoil, even after 5 years and you will never digest that food

If you eat something like an apple or any kind of food that will naturally rot then there is no way you can get fat because it can only stay in your body for so long before it has to recycle itself back into the earth.

So its very easy and you never have to read any food labels or count calories. Just ask yourself before you eat a food "will this food spoil/rot?" If the answer is yes then it is good! :thumbsup

You can type very well for someone wearing a strait jacket :thumbsup


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