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Jman 10-15-2010 12:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PR_Dave (Post 17610549)
List is much smaller now, glad I took a screenshot.

Yup looks like we gone now... Maybe an employee needed to show some results and decided to include everyone they hit up via ICQ or email :upsidedow

Alprazolam 10-15-2010 12:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RuthB (Post 17610563)
We deeply apologize and we have removed the programs in question. What happened is that on the business sponsors form we have a link to add programs to the list. That contact is intended for program owners not regular paxum users. We have been contacted by people asking to add the program on the list and we did it without taking in consideration it could not have been the real program owner asking that. We deeply apologize again and we will make sure it will never happen again, it was never our intent to force anybody on that list.

:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

Rogue Reps!!!!!!!!!!

Domain Broker 10-15-2010 12:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RuthB (Post 17610563)
We deeply apologize and we have removed the programs in question. What happened is that on the business sponsors form we have a link to add programs to the list. That contact is intended for program owners not regular paxum users. We have been contacted by people asking to add the program on the list and we did it without taking in consideration it could not have been the real program owner asking that. We deeply apologize again and we will make sure it will never happen again, it was never our intent to force anybody on that list.

:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

will76 10-15-2010 12:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RuthB (Post 17610563)
We deeply apologize and we have removed the programs in question. What happened is that on the business sponsors form we have a link to add programs to the list. That contact is intended for program owners not regular paxum users. We have been contacted by people asking to add the program on the list and we did it without taking in consideration it could not have been the real program owner asking that. We deeply apologize again and we will make sure it will never happen again, it was never our intent to force anybody on that list.

Wrong answer, please try again.

You have a link to "add programs" to the list. Obviously, there is no verification involved??? Someone adds a program and it instantly goes live??? How convenient for you this "mistake" happened and no one on your end noticed it. Because the more programs on the list, it doesn't help you guys pick up more accounts... no.. no way.

Let's say you honestly make mistakes like that but yet you want to handle people's money? It's not like sending the penis pills to the wrong address, you have no room for error when it comes to handling other people's money, one mistake could cost millions.

willwank 10-15-2010 12:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PR_Dave (Post 17610549)
List is much smaller now, glad I took a screenshot.

I am glad you did that.

hashbury 10-15-2010 12:51 PM

incredibledollars takes paxum now. You should put them on the list. lol

Alprazolam 10-15-2010 12:53 PM

take the screenshot and host it so we can see.

signupdamnit 10-15-2010 12:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RuthB (Post 17610563)
We deeply apologize and we have removed the programs in question. What happened is that on the business sponsors form we have a link to add programs to the list. That contact is intended for program owners not regular paxum users. We have been contacted by people asking to add the program on the list and we did it without taking in consideration it could not have been the real program owner asking that. We deeply apologize again and we will make sure it will never happen again, it was never our intent to force anybody on that list.

Fair enough.

Jason Voorhees 10-15-2010 12:55 PM

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Originally Posted by will76 (Post 17610543)
i wasn't associating anyone with stealing money, how the hell did you come up with that. I said if Brazzers is endorsing Paxum, its another reason to not like Paxum. It's an idiotic statement, i was mainly joking, but never the less it doesn't insinuate that anyone is stealing. :upsidedow

It's the only logical thing when someone sees "stay away from Paxum, Brazzers endorse them".

Who gives a shit if Brazzers endorses them, as long as they don't run off with your money, they are good.

Jarmusch 10-15-2010 12:55 PM

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Originally Posted by signupdamnit (Post 17610598)
Fair enough.

You sig suits you very well.

AdultEUhost 10-15-2010 12:59 PM

AFAIK topbucks shouldnt be on that list either

signupdamnit 10-15-2010 12:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Jarmusch (Post 17610608)
You sig suits you very well.

I don't even like them and will never use them (use search). I only use checks, ACH and wires. I think it was stupid to not verify the sponsors. At the same time I'm not going to jump all over them for the error besides stating that it shouldn't have happened.

CyberHustler 10-15-2010 01:05 PM

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Originally Posted by PR_Dave (Post 17610466)
I have found that adult + 3rd party payment solutions = :warning

Going to sit and wait. I know my competitors are jumping on solutions thinking it will boost sales, good luck to them. :error

Sigable quote... :2 cents::thumbsup

marketsmart 10-15-2010 01:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Jason Voorhees (Post 17610607)
It's the only logical thing when someone sees "stay away from Paxum, Brazzers endorse them".

Who gives a shit if Brazzers endorses them, as long as they don't run off with your money, they are good.

until they run off with your money... :1orglaugh

people will never learn will they..

fool me once, shame on you...

fool me twice, shame on me.... :2 cents:




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epitome 10-15-2010 01:07 PM

Shocking! Another Paxum LIE!

Seriously, when will people realize that Paxum is shady as shit?

CyberHustler 10-15-2010 01:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RuthB (Post 17610563)
We deeply apologize and we have removed the programs in question. What happened is that on the business sponsors form we have a link to add programs to the list. That contact is intended for program owners not regular paxum users. We have been contacted by people asking to add the program on the list and we did it without taking in consideration it could not have been the real program owner asking that. We deeply apologize again and we will make sure it will never happen again, it was never our intent to force anybody on that list.

Fuck outta here with that bullshit...

RuthB 10-15-2010 01:08 PM

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Originally Posted by AdultEUhost (Post 17610620)
AFAIK topbucks shouldnt be on that list either

Topbucks said on GFY themselves that they added Paxum as a payment solution

http://www.gofuckyourself.com/showthread.php?t=991992

paxum 10-15-2010 01:08 PM

Error
 
Hello, Octav here.

I apologize for the mistaken list on paxum.com earlier today, I take full responsibility for the error as the company owner. Let me explain what happened even that it dose not excuse our error. This was updated by the person responsible for publishing the paxum sponsors page from the design team. The information he took was from an internal company memo that we compile every day with suggestions from webmasters asking us to talk to programs that they would like to see offer paxum as a payment option. The person who manages the sponsors page inadvertently transcribed the list of programs we were asked to talk to on to that page instead of the list of sponsors itself. We were notified about 1 hour ago about the problem and took immediate action to remove it.

Thank you for your understanding, my sincere apologies to all on gfy and specially to the programs that were listed by mistake without their consent.

Octav Moise

Sly 10-15-2010 01:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AdultEUhost (Post 17610620)
AFAIK topbucks shouldnt be on that list either

Top Bucks offers Paxum.

Yngwie 10-15-2010 01:12 PM

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Originally Posted by AdultEUhost (Post 17610620)
AFAIK topbucks shouldnt be on that list either

Top Bucks does use Paxum.. I should know, I have my payment method set to Paxum in my Top Bucks account.

epitome 10-15-2010 01:12 PM

Maybe I missed it in another thread, but when did they change the address published on their site to their month-to-month business center address?

https://www.paxum.com/payment/contac...s/contact.xsl&

Yes, I know that Paxum came in and created a thread about it being their address, but the PO Box remained on their site.

Now to anyone with half a brain it looks like that they didn't have that business center and only rented it when people demanded to know their address and now that they have it they can delete the UPS store as their address.

When will it end?

CyberHustler 10-15-2010 01:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by paxum (Post 17610653)
Hello, Octav here.

I apologize for the mistaken list on paxum.com earlier today, I take full responsibility for the error as the company owner. Let me explain what happened even that it dose not excuse our error. This was updated by the person responsible for publishing the paxum sponsors page from the design team. The information he took was from an internal company memo that we compile every day with suggestions from webmasters asking us to talk to programs that they would like to see offer paxum as a payment option. The person who manages the sponsors page inadvertently transcribed the list of programs we were asked to talk to on to that page instead of the list of sponsors itself. We were notified about 1 hour ago about the problem and took immediate action to remove it.

Thank you for your understanding, my sincere apologies to all on gfy and specially to the programs that were listed by mistake without their consent.

Octav Moise

You guys are just doing shit to flex your GFY "quick support" muscle... trying to herd in more sheep and shit. :pimp

Alprazolam 10-15-2010 01:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Yngwie (Post 17610670)
Top Bucks does use Paxum.. I should know, I have my payment method set to Paxum in my Top Bucks account.

:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh :1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

Fat Panda 10-15-2010 01:15 PM

paxum are fucking liars on their sponsors page another reason not to use them...wow anyone who'd keep their money here is fucking insane!

epitome 10-15-2010 01:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by paxum (Post 17610653)
Hello, Octav here.

I apologize for the mistaken list on paxum.com earlier today, I take full responsibility for the error as the company owner. Let me explain what happened even that it dose not excuse our error. This was updated by the person responsible for publishing the paxum sponsors page from the design team. The information he took was from an internal company memo that we compile every day with suggestions from webmasters asking us to talk to programs that they would like to see offer paxum as a payment option. The person who manages the sponsors page inadvertently transcribed the list of programs we were asked to talk to on to that page instead of the list of sponsors itself. We were notified about 1 hour ago about the problem and took immediate action to remove it.

Thank you for your understanding, my sincere apologies to all on gfy and specially to the programs that were listed by mistake without their consent.

Octav Moise

You should have read what Ruth posted before you posted this because there are now two different stories about this same issue.

Oh geez, do we have another Chris Mallick situation where the officer is not paying attention to what is going on in his business?

As we've learned, that doesn't end well.

madtwin 10-15-2010 01:17 PM

Hey, give people what they want! Add Paxum as an alternative payout!...

epitome 10-15-2010 01:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by madtwin (Post 17610703)
Hey, give people what they want! Add Paxum as an alternative payout!...

What's up with all of these brand new nicks with no activity endorsing Paxum?

Did the Paxum people create a bunch of fake nicks before launch?

Tempest 10-15-2010 01:20 PM

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Originally Posted by epitome (Post 17610697)
You should have read what Ruth posted before you posted this because there are now two different stories about this same issue.

:1orglaugh :1orglaugh :1orglaugh You read it as 2 different stories???? Clearly you're just one of many that will twist things around as you're looking for absolutely any reason to bash them..

AzteK 10-15-2010 01:22 PM

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Originally Posted by madtwin (Post 17610703)
Hey, give people what they want! Add Paxum as an alternative payout!...

You're a fake and phony...

epitome 10-15-2010 01:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tempest (Post 17610730)
:1orglaugh :1orglaugh :1orglaugh You read it as 2 different stories???? Clearly you're just one of many that will twist things around as you're looking for absolutely any reason to bash them..

Ruth is talking about some form and Octav is talking about a memo.

I don't know how much business experience you have, but they are two completely different things.

If they are talking about the same thing how is it my fault that the employees do not know the difference between a form and a memo?

RuthB 10-15-2010 01:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by epitome (Post 17610697)
You should have read what Ruth posted before you posted this because there are now two different stories about this same issue.

Oh geez, do we have another Chris Mallick situation where the officer is not paying attention to what is going on in his business?

As we've learned, that doesn't end well.

I'm not sure how it differs. Octav just provides more information about the situation. Fact still remains that the information submitted through the contact form was inadvertently used to compile the list that was posted live online. We are very sorry for the error and guarantee it won't happen again.

paxum 10-15-2010 01:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by epitome (Post 17610697)
You should have read what Ruth posted before you posted this because there are now two different stories about this same issue.

Oh geez, do we have another Chris Mallick situation where the officer is not paying attention to what is going on in his business?

As we've learned, that doesn't end well.

I am sorry but it is the same but written by 2 different persons. I tried to elaborate and explain what happened. Ruth said that we were contacted by webasters to add the name to the list of sponsors and that is of course true. That list gets compiled in a list of sponsors we have to contact to convince them to pay their webasters by paxum. That list was taken by mistake by our designer thinking it was the list of sponsors that already signed up and this is what I explained. This is what happened and both Ruth and myself explained the same situation in different words.
thank you

Octav Moise

Fat Panda 10-15-2010 01:26 PM

paxum will fail, save yourself money, time and headaches stick with checks and wires...if you can't receive a wire or cash a fucking check you are not a business person

will76 10-15-2010 01:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by paxum (Post 17610653)
Hello, Octav here.

I apologize for the mistaken list on paxum.com earlier today, I take full responsibility for the error as the company owner. Let me explain what happened even that it dose not excuse our error. This was updated by the person responsible for publishing the paxum sponsors page from the design team. The information he took was from an internal company memo that we compile every day with suggestions from webmasters asking us to talk to programs that they would like to see offer paxum as a payment option. The person who manages the sponsors page inadvertently transcribed the list of programs we were asked to talk to on to that page instead of the list of sponsors itself. We were notified about 1 hour ago about the problem and took immediate action to remove it.

Thank you for your understanding, my sincere apologies to all on gfy and specially to the programs that were listed by mistake without their consent.

Octav Moise

Quote:

Originally Posted by RuthB (Post 17610563)
We deeply apologize and we have removed the programs in question. What happened is that on the business sponsors form we have a link to add programs to the list. That contact is intended for program owners not regular paxum users. We have been contacted by people asking to add the program on the list and we did it without taking in consideration it could not have been the real program owner asking that. We deeply apologize again and we will make sure it will never happen again, it was never our intent to force anybody on that list.


So in one version the designer took an internal memo of the companies they *want* to add and published it, and no one checked the designer's work before it went live??

In another version it was Paxum users using some add function to add companies to the list that was suppose to be meant only for program owners to add their companies' name to the list. Which none of this was verified and it just goes live??

wtf :warning:helpme:warning two very different stories.

epitome 10-15-2010 01:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RuthB (Post 17610785)
I'm not sure how it differs. Octav just provides more information about the situation. Fact still remains that the information submitted through the contact form was inadvertently used to compile the list that was posted live online. We are very sorry for the error and guarantee it won't happen again.

I do want to take this opportunity to say that it is nothing personal against the employees.

My problem is with Paxum management, just like my problem was with Epass management.

I never hated Michael O., and I do not hate you, Chris or Al.

I've been in the unfortunate situation of being an employee that has to do what they are told to do in order to pay my bills, so please never take anything personally, even if it does appear that way.

brassmonkey 10-15-2010 01:29 PM

this is very entertaining more please!

Tempest 10-15-2010 01:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by epitome (Post 17610771)
Ruth is talking about some form and Octav is talking about a memo.

I don't know how much business experience you have, but they are two completely different things.

If they are talking about the same thing how is it my fault that the employees do not know the difference between a form and a memo?

Ruth posted how they got the info... Octav posted how it ended up on the site. But hey.. This place is all about the mob mentality and taking out their own anger about shit on anyone they can... The voice of reason has no place here for some... carry on...

bolsex 10-15-2010 01:35 PM

I can see Traffic Cash Gold on the list! funny!

epitome 10-15-2010 01:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by paxum (Post 17610795)
I am sorry but it is the same but written by 2 different persons. I tried to elaborate and explain what happened. Ruth said that we were contacted by webasters to add the name to the list of sponsors and that is of course true. That list gets compiled in a list of sponsors we have to contact to convince them to pay their webasters by paxum. That list was taken by mistake by our designer thinking it was the list of sponsors that already signed up and this is what I explained. This is what happened and both Ruth and myself explained the same situation in different words.
thank you

Octav Moise

Let me ask you a straight forward question, that I hope you do not mind answering.

If you were looking to place your money with someone for safekeeping (or even transmission) and you experienced all of this hiccups, half-truths, clarifications and all of that, would you then trust them if they said "oh, well, we're terribly sorry for everything, but I assure you it was just a misunderstanding."

If you would, please wire me $10,000 for safekeeping.

will76 10-15-2010 01:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RuthB (Post 17610785)
I'm not sure how it differs. Octav just provides more information about the situation. Fact still remains that the information submitted through the contact form was inadvertently used to compile the list that was posted live online. We are very sorry for the error and guarantee it won't happen again.

you people are full of so much bullshit. Ruth you blamed it on Paxum users saying that they used a form that should have been used by Program owners. You blame the Paxum users for using a form that was for Program Owners.

Quote:

Originally Posted by RuthB (Post 17610563)
. What happened is that on the business sponsors form we have a link to add programs to the list. That contact is intended for program owners not regular paxum users.

Octav says it was companies submitted from users that they should add. Octav blames the designer for publishing a list of companies they *want* to add.

Quote:

Originally Posted by paxum (Post 17610653)
The information he took was from an internal company memo that we compile every day with suggestions from webmasters asking us to talk to programs that they would like to see offer paxum as a payment option.

Makes no fucking sense. If the "submit form" was for program owners then it wouldn't be a list of people you want to add, they would already be added.

Octav is saying he knew it was from webmasters, you are saying "opps" that was suppose to be from program owners, we *just* finding out about it now.

So either you guys knew the programs being submitted on that page from webmasters and not owners and you did nothing about it, or you guys are just plain stupid and have no idea what you are doing.

christ, 1+1 = 36 around here.

epitome 10-15-2010 01:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tempest (Post 17610835)
Ruth posted how they got the info... Octav posted how it ended up on the site. But hey.. This place is all about the mob mentality and taking out their own anger about shit on anyone they can... The voice of reason has no place here for some... carry on...

Form:

http://www.payment-solutions.com/ima...ckpay-form.gif

Memo:

http://www.citizensforethics.com/fil...es/memo1_0.jpg

But hey, we're talking about the same thing, right?

If this was the first Paxum hiccup I'd be inclined to believe.

RuthB 10-15-2010 01:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by will76 (Post 17610800)
So in one version the designer took an internal memo of the companies they *want* to add and published it, and no one checked the designer's work before it went live??

In another version it was Paxum users using some add function to add companies to the list that was suppose to be meant only for program owners to add their companies' name to the list. Which none of this was verified and it just goes live??

wtf :warning:helpme:warning two very different stories.

The list the designer took and published was comprised of the names submitted through the form that I referenced in my post.

I'm sorry it isn't clearer to you Will, it seems fairly straightforward to me. Octav simply elaborated what I came to be aware of. I posted as soon as possible to ensure that the situation was addressed. Then Octav expounded the information.

Basic fact; we fucked up. We're very sorry and we're making sure that this will never happen again. It's easy to go searching for some kind of 'conspiracy' or something, but fact of the matter is, this was simply a mistake, and one that we promptly corrected and addressed.

Tempest 10-15-2010 01:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by epitome (Post 17610851)
Form:

Memo:

But hey, we're talking about the same thing, right?

If this was the first Paxum hiccup I'd be inclined to believe.

:1orglaugh :1orglaugh :1orglaugh Riiiigghhhttttt... You're grasping at straws now to justify your point of view... Carry on...

epitome 10-15-2010 01:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tempest (Post 17610866)
:1orglaugh :1orglaugh :1orglaugh Riiiigghhhttttt... You're grasping at straws now to justify your point of view... Carry on...

You're ignoring serious red flags to justify this to be a top notch stand up company. Carry on.

zeuse 10-15-2010 01:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by madtwin (Post 17610703)
Hey, give people what they want! Add Paxum as an alternative payout!...

http://media.ebaumsworld.com/picture...239/APhony.png

RuthB 10-15-2010 01:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by will76 (Post 17610844)
you people are full of so much bullshit. Ruth you blamed it on Paxum users saying that they used a form that should have been used by Program owners. You blame the Paxum users for using a form that was for Program Owners.



Octav says it was companies submitted from users that they should add. Octav blames the designer for publishing a list of companies they *want* to add.



Makes no fucking sense. If the "submit form" was for program owners then it wouldn't be a list of people you want to add, they would already be added.

Octav is saying he knew it was from webmasters, you are saying "opps" that was suppose to be from program owners, we *just* finding out about it now.

So either you guys knew the programs being submitted on that page from webmasters and not owners and you did nothing about it, or you guys are just plain stupid and have no idea what you are doing.

christ, 1+1 = 36 around here.

Seriously Will, I thought you had some businesses to run rather than just go on about semantics.

I am an account rep for Paxum. I see this thread getting fatter and fatter, I am aware of the basic explanation as to what happened here today, and so I post what I know.

Octav does a follow-up post providing additional information that further elaborates exactly what caused this error to occur. His definition of the list and my interpretation of the online form and its purpose may not be exactly 100% equal, however the main 'gist' of the situation is the same:

The names submitted through that form were inadvertently published on our pages, and it was a mistake that we apologize for and have corrected.

If you take a look at this thread, you'll see it was NOT to our advantage for this to happen in any way shape or form! :warning

epitome 10-15-2010 01:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RuthB (Post 17610853)
The list the designer took and published was comprised of the names submitted through the form that I referenced in my post.

I'm sorry it isn't clearer to you Will, it seems fairly straightforward to me. Octav simply elaborated what I came to be aware of. I posted as soon as possible to ensure that the situation was addressed. Then Octav expounded the information.

Basic fact; we fucked up. We're very sorry and we're making sure that this will never happen again. It's easy to go searching for some kind of 'conspiracy' or something, but fact of the matter is, this was simply a mistake, and one that we promptly corrected and addressed.

Fair enough.

You have to understand people's hesitation though.

If you guys can fuck up as something as simple as a list of names, how in the hell are you going to accurately reconcile tens of thousands of monthly transactions worth tens of millions of dollars?

Machete_ 10-15-2010 01:50 PM

Will76, why are you so anal about everything?

Go do something constructive instead of bashing everyone on boards.

Tempest 10-15-2010 01:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by epitome (Post 17610882)
You're ignoring serious red flags to justify this to be a top notch stand up company. Carry on.

Really??? Or maybe I realize that every one of these companies, sponsors etc. will practically all fail and dissapear at one point and so I'll do what I can to minimize my risk.

At this point my preference would be for sponsors to look into and integrate emc2payouts... but the industry leaders are sitting on their hands doing nothing and allowing the mob to drive this process... So until they get their heads out of their asses I'll use what I can and keep my balances very low.

epitome 10-15-2010 01:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tempest (Post 17610910)
Really??? Or maybe I realize that every one of these companies, sponsors etc. will practically all fail and dissapear at one point and so I'll do what I can to minimize my risk.

At this point my preference would be for sponsors to look into and integrate emc2payouts... but the industry leaders are sitting on their hands doing nothing and allowing the mob to drive this process... So until they get their heads out of their asses I'll use what I can and keep my balances very low.

We agree on something. I want emc2payouts, too.

And I hope they use some of the fee money they collect to invest in shortening their name to something I can remember. :1orglaugh

Sponsors will not be looking into emc2payouts if everybody is sitting around saying "we like Paxum!"

Actually, I'd much prefer PayPal over anything and I'm sure within the next few weeks there will be more answers as to whether sponsors can use that.


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