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PornMD 10-15-2010 04:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Yngwie (Post 17611452)
What happened with that list was not an intentional thing. People are acting like we killed the president or some crap. Errors happened and it was fixed very fast. I understand people being weary due to the whole epassporte issue, but we (Paxum) seem to be the #1 target of everyone's bashing. PR is not the bad one for making a thread about this. I fully understand why they would make a thread about this, but do you honestly think that we would do something like this intentionally to hopefully get more people to sign up with us knowing full well that any sponsor/company that's not actually signed up with us or using us would come on here and make a thread such as this one?

That would be a very idiotic business move on our part. This was a huge mix up which we have fixed and we will make 100% sure that it never happens again. I know that what I say won't make much of a difference, but this is just my :2 cents:

I can understand it may not have been intentional (of course the only people who can say that are you guys so there's no way for us to know for sure, so moot issue), but even if it was unintentional, it was something fallacious on the website that would naturally benefit Paxum, and PR and the other sponsors would have a right to not be happy about their companies being on that list if they're not using you. I do applaud you guys for fixing it fairly quickly, but just was wringing that asshole's neck for getting on PR's case for complaining about it.

Carry on. :)

Ron2k1 10-15-2010 05:03 PM

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Originally Posted by will76 (Post 17611493)
in all honesty, yes I think they would do it intentionally.

you guys (paxum reps) have been going around telling affiliates to go tell the companies they promote to add paxum.

you have been making announcements about "big companies" that will be using paxum soon.... why not just wait till you can name the company instead of the " big company soon" crap which may or may not happen.

you are doing everything you can to try to make sponsors think they need you, and affiliates think that the "big" sponsors are adding you. So to put a list of big companies up to try to further this agenda, really isn't a big leap considering the approach you have taken on this board.

and I don't know what is worst, if you did it on purpose or not. If you really didn't intend to do that but fuck up little things like that, god help you handling people's money. Where you have zero room for error.

And you are doing everything you can to try to bash a company who did not scam anyone yet.

If you don't like them, just stay away

Quagmire 10-15-2010 05:04 PM

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Originally Posted by madtwin (Post 17610703)
Hey, give people what they want! Add Paxum as an alternative payout!...

Quote:

Originally Posted by AzTeK
You're a fake and phony...

http://www.planet-familyguy.com/pfg/...ers/phoney.jpg
YOUR HEAR THAT PAXUM? YOU'RE A PHONY! A BIG FAT PHONY! :1orglaugh

Aric 10-15-2010 05:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Alprazolam (Post 17611495)
You understand people are "weary", but I think the word you're looking for is "leery".

Your grammar is absolutely horrendous. I wouldn't trust you with an empty soda bottle, let alone my hard earned money.

I actually think he meant "wary" :2 cents:

This one is my favorite so far:

Quote:

Originally Posted by Steve-Paxum (Post 17610663)
...but i would definately keep the cash flowing. What he did to the company can't be explained and his unlogical decision will hunt our company for a long period....

:Oh crap

SomeCreep 10-15-2010 05:12 PM

It's disturbing to see so many people blindly flocking to these brand new payment companies which have virtually no reputation. I guess these are desperate times. I wish all sponsors just payed via check. There are still a few sponsors that don't, which forces some webmasters to use these shady ass b2b payment companies.

Yngwie 10-15-2010 05:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Alprazolam (Post 17611495)
You are not someone who should be representing a new alternative pay method desperate for credibility. Their drastic attempt to establish credibility is being set back immensely by your posts.

You understand people are "weary", but I think the word you're looking for is "leery".

Your grammar is absolutely horrendous. I wouldn't trust you with an empty soda bottle, let alone my hard earned money.

I'm sure you're a nice guy though.

:2 cents:


I meant WARY.. Wow.. I make one little mistake and I'm treated like I'm an idiot.

willwank 10-15-2010 05:14 PM

If all the trolls bashing Paxum spent that time on work they would have earned minimum monthly payout somewhere by now, and would actually appreciate a card. Paxum, CashX, Payoneer, EMC2, wherever... I don't care as long as it works for you :2 cents:

Stop the fucking mindless bashing. If you gonna bash, at least pick a topic that matters. Like what is done to ensure site security and individual account integrity. From an affiliates pov that is something that matters. Paxum is new, without any track record, yes, it's an undisputed fact, move the fuck on. Sponsors, big and small, do their due diligence and make their decisions regardless of what you dipshits say or feel. If a sponsor feel they need at least some track record before they move, fine. It's an argument that has to be respected.

"I took a screenshot" Wtf! Is this kindergarten all over again? What are you gonna do? Sue because they erroneously sent you some new affiliates that thought it was great that you offered Paxum payments?

Dreamteam 10-15-2010 05:21 PM

pffffffffff

Dreamteam 10-15-2010 05:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Alprazolam (Post 17611495)
You are not someone who should be representing a new alternative pay method desperate for credibility. Their drastic attempt to establish credibility is being set back immensely by your posts.

You understand people are "weary", but I think the word you're looking for is "leery".

Your grammar is absolutely horrendous. I wouldn't trust you with an empty soda bottle, let alone my hard earned money.

I'm sure you're a nice guy though.

:2 cents:


Shut the fuck up you piece of shit. :321GFY

Tempest 10-15-2010 05:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by will76 (Post 17611493)
in all honesty, yes I think they would do it intentionally.

you guys (paxum reps) have been going around telling affiliates to go tell the companies they promote to add paxum.

you have been making announcements about "big companies" that will be using paxum soon.... why not just wait till you can name the company instead of the " big company soon" crap which may or may not happen.

you are doing everything you can to try to make sponsors think they need you, and affiliates think that the "big" sponsors are adding you. So to put a list of big companies up to try to further this agenda, really isn't a big leap considering the approach you have taken on this board.

and I don't know what is worst, if you did it on purpose or not. If you really didn't intend to do that but fuck up little things like that, god help you handling people's money. Where you have zero room for error.

Wow... You've really turned into a real conspiracy nut.. Maybe you should go to the doctors and see if he will prescribe something for you.. At the very least maybe it will help with your anger levels. You've got zero stake in this and you're acting like a rabid dog.

targetpro 10-15-2010 05:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Alprazolam (Post 17611495)
You are not someone who should be representing a new alternative pay method desperate for credibility. Their drastic attempt to establish credibility is being set back immensely by your posts.

You understand people are "weary", but I think the word you're looking for is "leery".

Your grammar is absolutely horrendous. I wouldn't trust you with an empty soda bottle, let alone my hard earned money.

I'm sure you're a nice guy though.

:2 cents:

QFT

Steve Perry is a nice guy I'm sure too, but would you trust him with your money and enough personal information to create a new you? Him and RuthB (who's only claim to fame is working for an affiliate program that couldn't cut it and just disappeared one day) post the most idiotic and nonsensical responses I've ever seen from people who supposedly represent a financial services company. If I have time later, I'll make a montage of stupid Paxum rep. quotes. If Octav was as smart as a businessman as he claims to be, he should shut these monkeys up and just let their actions as a service provider speak for themselves over time. Paxum really so far has all the markings of a fly-by-night operation.

Varius 10-15-2010 05:33 PM

One last thing I've been meaning to point out to all the Paxum reps (this isn't a criticism, it's more advice):

The way most of you post on here, you sound like you have been with the company for years, through good and bad times, grew up with the founder, fought together overseas ,etc... You are ready to throw your names and reputations on the line for them and fight the good fight against all the haters.

The thing is, you guys have been with them for what? 2-3 months at most?

Do your job professionally, work hard - I'm not saying not to do any of that.

However, my advice to you all is, don't put yourselves on the line in that kind of way until you have been with them longer and know exactly how the company and owners operate.

The last thing you'd want is to wind up a scapegoat with nothing to show for it but a few bucks an hour :2 cents:

drx 10-15-2010 05:35 PM

not cool

Dreamteam 10-15-2010 05:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by targetpro (Post 17611580)
QFT

Steve Perry is a nice guy I'm sure too, but would you trust him with your money and enough personal information to create a new you? Him and RuthB (who's only claim to fame is working for an affiliate program that couldn't cut it and just disappeared one day) post the most idiotic and nonsensical responses I've ever seen from people who supposedly represent a financial services company. If I have time later, I'll make a montage of stupid Paxum rep. quotes. If Octav was as smart as a businessman as he claims to be, he should shut these monkeys up and just let their actions as a service provider speak for themselves over time. Paxum really so far has all the markings of a fly-by-night operation.


O MY GOD you are smart ... (I'm jelous) :1orglaugh

Tempest 10-15-2010 05:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Varius (Post 17611589)
One last thing I've been meaning to point out to all the Paxum reps (this isn't a criticism, it's more advice):

The way most of you post on here, you sound like you have been with the company for years, through good and bad times, grew up with the founder, fought together overseas ,etc... You are ready to throw your names and reputations on the line for them and fight the good fight against all the haters.

The thing is, you guys have been with them for what? 2-3 months at most?

Do your job professionally, work hard - I'm not saying not to do any of that.

However, my advice to you all is, don't put yourselves on the line in that kind of way until you have been with them longer and know exactly how the company and owners operate.

The last thing you'd want is to wind up a scapegoat with nothing to show for it but a few bucks an hour :2 cents:

One of them has been working with the Owner for several years now via one of his other companies, i.e. pillsmoney.com

Alprazolam 10-15-2010 05:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Dreamteam (Post 17611571)
Shut the fuck up you piece of shit. :321GFY

Your bias is uncannily obvious.
You are dismissed.

epitome 10-15-2010 05:43 PM

Everyone sign up for Paxum!

Please do.

I'm changing my stance. If nothing bad happens, great. If something bad happens then maybe you'll go out of business and I'll have one less competitor.

Paxum

I'll stick to wires and checks.

Alprazolam 10-15-2010 05:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Yngwie (Post 17611539)
I meant WARY.. Wow.. I make one little mistake and I'm treated like I'm an idiot.

There are a plethora of grammatical and punctuation errors in your words. Would you sign a loan document at a bank with the amount of errors and level of professionalism that is your writing?

Honest question?

Varius 10-15-2010 05:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Tempest (Post 17611610)
One of them has been working with the Owner for several years now via one of his other companies, i.e. pillsmoney.com

Ok, so except Chris :upsidedow

My message to the rest stands; it goes to anyone actually - you should never push something in a personal manner, unless you have had proper time to actually believe in it / become a part of it.

PornMD 10-15-2010 05:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Varius (Post 17611639)
Ok, so except Chris :upsidedow

My message to the rest stands; it goes to anyone actually - you should never push something in a personal manner, unless you have had proper time to actually believe in it / become a part of it.

Meh...I can't fault them for that. If you have an employer who is telling you to help instill confidence/trust in the brand in a community, what else are you going to do? My issue is more with the people who aren't designated as employees who are doing it, especially the fake nick roaming here who's posts thus far are 90% either selling people on Paxum or selling people against one of the other services.

Varius 10-15-2010 05:58 PM

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Originally Posted by PornMD (Post 17611648)
Meh...I can't fault them for that. If you have an employer who is telling you to help instill confidence/trust in the brand in a community, what else are you going to do.

You should do so by letting the service stand upon its own merits. Present the facts, say things like "I haven't been here long, but from what i can see so far, things are run well", etc...be direct and honest about it and I dare say more and more people appreciate that approach. The suave salesman approach works less and less in today's markets.

If I see someone, with a new company that's barely a month old, saying how it's awesome and the best company they have ever worked for, would never screw anyone and so forth... I would stay away and think less of that person and anything they may do in the future.

It's like how I never trust someone who frequently says "trust me" in their day-to-day speech :winkwink:

brassmonkey 10-15-2010 06:01 PM

im going to watch some movies play nice.

PornMD 10-15-2010 06:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Varius (Post 17611658)
If I see someone, with a new company that's barely a month old, saying how it's awesome and the best company they have ever worked for, would never screw anyone and so forth... I would stay away and think less of that person and anything they may do in the future.

I imagine for most people, even an average job with reasonable pay that seemed to be okay would be far better than anyone they've worked for. I had 1 day job ever and the company was a fucking mess, so if I got a job at McDonalds tomorrow, it'd probably be "awesome" and they'd be "the best company I've ever worked for", which is why I don't work for anyone else. :1orglaugh The sad thing is I didn't realize how shitty of a job it was until I was no longer in it because I had dedication to who I was working for...which is what Ruth et al have, which again is not really a fault even for a new company.

Put it like this - with how jobs/the economy are right now, if you had a reasonable-paying day job vs. working for yourself and your employer asked you to help instill trust in them, would you say "I'll do what I can but I have to be tentative because I haven't worked for you long"? They'd be like "k, we'll find someone else for $10 an hour who'll be happy to do what we need, thanks." Yes, driven by true merit someone wouldn't do that, but most people are in tough positions right now and won't think twice about it. Heck, if things get any worse, Achmed might suck a dick for 2 rocket launchers.

Agent 488 10-15-2010 06:58 PM

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Originally Posted by neeko (Post 17610421)
Dave,

We met the owner yesterday and this morning at our offices.

We cannot predict the future but everything in that payment solution looks good so far.

The setup / security / people / fees / ease of use so far seems good. If you want to get in touch with the owners ... let us know.

wonder which montreal company is behind paxum?

Adraco 10-15-2010 07:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Yngwie (Post 17611539)
I meant WARY.. Wow.. I make one little mistake and I'm treated like I'm an idiot.

Well, Paxum made BIG mistake in trying to steal credibility from a huge name like PR - Not cool!
That was one mistake (let's call it a mistake, even if it may have been intentional, after all, it COULD be true and an honest mistake)

Now you write all over, and come accross as a bit rough around the corners and maybe not that well educated. And you make mistakes in your writing all over the place. That's two mistakes.

Ruth didin't know the difference between a form and a memo two or three pages ago. That's three mistakes.

There seems to be a little TOO many mistakes, too many uneducated people around to really spark confidence.

I know one of the competitiors has these onboard already:
WebCams.com
AEBN
Streamates
FriendFinder
and I hear that one of the largest cam companies is in the process of joining/implementing right now.

Hard to compare one specific sponsor to another, but I would definitely say that among the above mentioned there are one or more industry leaders. I do not really see the same weight among the ones onboard with Paxum right now, yeah there are TopBucks and Vidz, I noticed but the list above still wins in my world.

The competitior is not mentioned, because I'm not here to push them. I really think Paxum should consider how you are marketing, if the brand is associatated with people who are prone to mistakes, it doesn't really infuse any credibility.

Agent 488 10-15-2010 07:00 PM

brazzers is probably paxum for the idiots out there. manwich or whatever front company they use.

CDSmith 10-15-2010 07:19 PM

Paxum needs to hire one more board rep, one that knows how to promote them and do damage control specifically on adult wm message boards, as well as effective troll control, of which there is a lot of in this very thread.

Hmm, I wonder who would fit the bill?

BlueDude 10-15-2010 07:22 PM

I bet 1/2 the paxum supporters on this board are either fake nick or paid to say good things about paxum and bad things about their competitors.

I just saw CashX have red negative reps, this doesn't make sense.

BloodFart 10-15-2010 07:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CDSmith (Post 17611801)
Paxum needs to hire one more board rep, one that knows how to promote them and do damage control specifically on adult wm message boards, as well as effective troll control, of which there is a lot of in this very thread.

Hmm, I wonder who would fit the bill?

Just pick one of the 43 pay per post reps they have running around already, christ

Shap 10-15-2010 08:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Agent 488 (Post 17611764)
brazzers is probably paxum for the idiots out there. manwich or whatever front company they use.

I doubt it. I'd be much more willing to consider it if they ran it. I have history with them

BlueDude 10-15-2010 08:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Shap (Post 17611886)
I doubt it. I'd be much more willing to consider it if they ran it. I have history with them

LOL, that's funny I must say. A bunch of your stuff is on their tube if you didn't know.

kristin 10-15-2010 08:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CDSmith (Post 17611801)
Paxum needs to hire one more board rep, one that knows how to promote them and do damage control specifically on adult wm message boards, as well as effective troll control, of which there is a lot of in this very thread.

Hmm, I wonder who would fit the bill?

I've thought the same thing this whole thread.

will76 10-15-2010 08:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by willwank (Post 17611545)
If all the trolls bashing Paxum spent that time on work they would have earned minimum monthly payout somewhere by now, and would actually appreciate a card. Paxum, CashX, Payoneer, EMC2, wherever... I don't care as long as it works for you :2 cents:

Stop the fucking mindless bashing. If you gonna bash, at least pick a topic that matters. Like what is done to ensure site security and individual account integrity. From an affiliates pov that is something that matters. Paxum is new, without any track record, yes, it's an undisputed fact, move the fuck on. Sponsors, big and small, do their due diligence and make their decisions regardless of what you dipshits say or feel. If a sponsor feel they need at least some track record before they move, fine. It's an argument that has to be respected.

"I took a screenshot" Wtf! Is this kindergarten all over again? What are you gonna do? Sue because they erroneously sent you some new affiliates that thought it was great that you offered Paxum payments?

Kindergarten is more like saying that companies are using your services when they are not.

Move on... ? it's GFY.... don't come here whoring for customers in practically every thread and then be upset when some people don't like what you are offering or what you are saying.

Just the same, if Paxum doesn't like it they can move on and go whore another board.

The fact of the matter is, if Paxum would have had their shit together, wouldn't have slammed the board so hard and understood how to talk to people, be upfront with them, made opportunities out of issues instead of bigger messes, they would be smelling like a rose right now. Unfortunately for them you only get 1 first impression.

It's all in the way you handle yourself, the way you come across and how you deal with people. They could have done things so much better. For starters, paying to advertise here would have been a better gesture then a bunch of reps whoring and would have shown people they could at least afford the price to advertise vs a free ride trying to pluck people from the board.

gecko 10-15-2010 08:24 PM

things that make you go hmmm

gecko 10-15-2010 08:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CDSmith (Post 17611801)
Paxum needs to hire one more board rep, one that knows how to promote them and do damage control specifically on adult wm message boards, as well as effective troll control, of which there is a lot of in this very thread.

Hmm, I wonder who would fit the bill?

keysersoze! if they can only convince him ;)

will76 10-15-2010 08:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Varius (Post 17611639)
Ok, so except Chris :upsidedow

My message to the rest stands; it goes to anyone actually - you should never push something in a personal manner, unless you have had proper time to actually believe in it / become a part of it.

great advice.

will76 10-15-2010 08:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CDSmith (Post 17611801)
Paxum needs to hire one more board rep, one that knows how to promote them and do damage control specifically on adult wm message boards, as well as effective troll control, of which there is a lot of in this very thread.

Hmm, I wonder who would fit the bill?

Ibill-Rodrigue ? :winkwink:

TheSwed 10-15-2010 08:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by will76 (Post 17611904)
Kindergarten is more like saying that companies are using your services when they are not.

Move on... ? it's GFY.... don't come here whoring for customers in practically every thread and then be upset when some people don't like what you are offering or what you are saying.

Just the same, if Paxum doesn't like it they can move on and go whore another board.

The fact of the matter is, if Paxum would have had their shit together, wouldn't have slammed the board so hard and understood how to talk to people, be upfront with them, made opportunities out of issues instead of bigger messes, they would be smelling like a rose right now. Unfortunately for them you only get 1 first impression.

It's all in the way you handle yourself, the way you come across and how you deal with people. They could have done things so much better. For starters, paying to advertise here would have been a better gesture then a bunch of reps whoring and would have shown people they could at least afford the price to advertise vs a free ride trying to pluck people from the board.

Why do you care???
Was you planing to start use them?

Nicky 10-15-2010 08:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CDSmith (Post 17611801)
Paxum needs to hire one more board rep, one that knows how to promote them and do damage control specifically on adult wm message boards, as well as effective troll control, of which there is a lot of in this very thread.

Hmm, I wonder who would fit the bill?

If they are serious with the biz and they want somebody to really be on top of the game I know one.... He makes good money as is in this biz but he is open to remote suggestions.

Argos88 10-15-2010 08:54 PM

It is not serious for a supposed "payment processor" to list sponsors who pay via their service.

Seriously, it is not serious at all.

Makes them look like an amateur site run from a basement...

Few days ago they told me in this forum that MasterCard must approve any changes to their site, even if it's small...

I still don't see why they removed the word MASTERCARD form their main site.

But anyway, did MASTERCARD approve to list adult sponsors on their home page?? STRANGE, seriously.

Check this:

http://webcache.googleusercontent.co...&hl=en&ct=clnk

On Sep 22 it showed MASTERCARD.. not anymore... STRANGE.


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