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AdultKing 10-16-2010 11:34 AM
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Originally Posted by jkthedesigner (Post 17613341)
Sir you are a genius.
:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh
:error
Let's play the game that you were correct (already done this in the thread... :disgust) well wouldn't you buy 10 packages for each of your competitors to get hem sandboxed or "shut down and sites delted... domain taken away." I know many people who drop a grand to see their competitor disappear off of SE's.

:BangBang:

So now you advocate joe-jobbing people's sites to get them sandboxed.

You are a real class act. :321GFY

Agent 488 10-16-2010 11:36 AM
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Originally Posted by AdultKing (Post 17613344)
So now you advocate joe-jobbing people's sites to get them sandboxed.

You are a real class act. :321GFY
over your head.

AdultKing 10-16-2010 11:39 AM
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Originally Posted by Agent 488 (Post 17613352)
over your head.
I got it, but I think he'd like to sell packages to do just that.

I'd still like to know his response to lifting a testimonial from someone elses web site and passing it off as his own.

jkthedesigner 10-16-2010 11:42 AM
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Originally Posted by AdultKing (Post 17613344)
So now you advocate joe-jobbing people's sites to get them sandboxed.

You are a real class act. :321GFY
I'm done conversing with you. Maybe youth has it's advantages over let's say...dotage?

Just stay out of the thread.

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Originally Posted by Agent 488 (Post 17613352)
over your head.
Thanks. Clearly he missed it. Just like the rest of the thread.

Machete_ 10-16-2010 11:45 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by jkthedesigner (Post 17613341)
wouldn't you buy 10 packages for each of your competitors to get hem sandboxed or "shut down and sites delted... domain taken away."
No, i would not. What goes around, comes around.



Quote:
Originally Posted by jkthedesigner
I know many people who drop a grand to see their competitor disappear off of SE's.
Yeah, you're in bed with a lot of scumbags. We already got the idea.

AdultKing 10-16-2010 11:48 AM
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Originally Posted by jkthedesigner (Post 17613367)

Just stay out of the thread.

No fucking chance.

You lifted a testimonial from another website and posted it as your own, I'm calling you out dude, what's with that ?

fris 10-16-2010 11:49 AM
dripfeedblasts is the best of the xrumer services out there

Phoenix66 10-16-2010 11:53 AM
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Originally Posted by Machete_ (Post 17613319)
If your site is hosted even on a half assed decent host, your account will be shut down and sites deleted, as your hosting gets thousands of spam complains - i guarantee it.

Your domain may also be taken away by the registrar. (Remember all the idiots here whining about evil registrars, stealing their domains, when their NS status lists: domain-disabled-for-spam ?)
What you are saying indicates that either you do not understand what he's offering or you are ignorant about se optimization in general.

What you are saying is true about mail spam. SE spam done wrong can cause some of the mentioned problems but not all of them and only if it's done very wrong.

minicivan 10-16-2010 11:53 AM
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Originally Posted by jkthedesigner (Post 17613291)
I can't wait to hear this. Why do I need other people's money to find the diamond in the coal? Clearly I have already found the ones with higher PR. I can do that myself... It's not that hard to use a mass Page Rank Checker. I'm not sure how I am ignorant either. If you'd care to explain please do :1orglaugh
The real question is the one that people who offer seo services can never answer - If you have all these "diamonds" why are you trying to sell coal?

Tempest 10-16-2010 11:56 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Machete_ (Post 17613319)
If your site is hosted even on a half assed decent host, your account will be shut down and sites deleted, as your hosting gets thousands of spam complains - i guarantee it.

Your domain may also be taken away by the registrar. (Remember all the idiots here whining about evil registrars, stealing their domains, when their NS status lists: domain-disabled-for-spam ?)
You don't have a clue how this should be used if you're worried about being shut down etc. now do you... :1orglaugh

Being shut down for comment etc. "spam"??? :1orglaugh Me thinks you're thinking about the wrong sort of spam.

As for whether it works or not, how long was wedigporn #1 for porn? How did he get there?

Machete_ 10-16-2010 11:56 AM
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Originally Posted by Phoenix66 (Post 17613392)
What you are saying indicates that either you do not understand what he's offering or you are ignorant about se optimization in general.

What you are saying is true about mail spam. SE spam done wrong can cause some of the mentioned problems but not all of them and only if it's done very wrong.
I'm speaking from personal experience here. I had my host contact me and almost shut my account down - because someone spammed my url on some forums and they received the complains. Only because i was with them for a long time and they never had problems with me, they didn't delete my sites (but they were pretty pissed).

Machete_ 10-16-2010 11:58 AM
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Originally Posted by Tempest (Post 17613399)
You don't have a clue how this should be used if you're worried about being shut down etc. now do you... :1orglaugh

Being shut down for comment etc. "spam"??? :1orglaugh Me thinks you're thinking about the wrong sort of spam.

As for whether it works or not, how long was wedigporn #1 for porn? How did he get there?
If you think that blog/foum/guestbook owners wouldn't report you to hosting/registrar, you're in for a surprise.

jkthedesigner 10-16-2010 12:04 PM
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Originally Posted by Machete_ (Post 17613400)
I'm speaking from personal experience here. I had my host contact me and almost shut my account down - because someone spammed my url on some forums and they received the complains. Only because i was with them for a long time and they never had problems with me, they didn't delete my sites (but they were pretty pissed).
Sorry to hear that. I'm not trying to offer a way to the demise of your competition. I'm just showing the hole in your line of reasoning.

And the testimonial was from a Bicycle shop in Charlotte. Built there website and did a blast back in '07 for them to get ranked locally. And it did work. Too bad they shut down in early '09. I'm guessing the economy hit them just like it did with everyone else. Not many people are dropping $600 on an entry level bike when they can get one for $150 at Walmart that almost looks the same

jkthedesigner 10-16-2010 12:06 PM
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Originally Posted by Machete_ (Post 17613405)
If you think that blog/foum/guestbook owners wouldn't report you to hosting/registrar, you're in for a surprise.
Machete, if you haven't used this service please don't talk about it like you have. I have never had an issue with clients and their respective registrars. Please don't babble on and on about something you do not fully understand :Oh crap

Phoenix66 10-16-2010 12:06 PM
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Originally Posted by Machete_ (Post 17613400)
I'm speaking from personal experience here. I had my host contact me and almost shut my account down - because someone spammed my url on some forums and they received the complains. Only because i was with them for a long time and they never had problems with me, they didn't delete my sites (but they were pretty pissed).
As far as I understand he's not offering direct forum spamming, he's offering forum profile spamming which is way different. Getting abuse from that is very unlikely.

Also, there are "clean" and "dirty" lists of forums. If you direct-spam forums that are randomly gathered from internet - you will get abuses, no doubts, and if you have a lot of them - you can get your hosting account shut down, though I never heard of domain shut-down in this case. Clean lists consists usually of forums that are abandoned or owned by people who do not care about spam and do not write complaints.

AdultKing 10-16-2010 12:08 PM
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Originally Posted by jkthedesigner (Post 17613417)
Sorry to hear that. I'm not trying to offer a way to the demise of your competition. I'm just showing the hole in your line of reasoning.

And the testimonial was from a Bicycle shop in Charlotte. Built there website and did a blast back in '07 for them to get ranked locally. And it did work. Too bad they shut down in early '09. I'm guessing the economy hit them just like it did with everyone else. Not many people are dropping $600 on an entry level bike when they can get one for $150 at Walmart that almost looks the same
The testimonial you posted is word for word copied from xrumergod.com

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I ordered 20k backlinks several weeks ago and the order was processed in 2 days as promised. I found it really helpful that he has so many different ways to contact him and not once did I find that he was offline when I needed to speak to him ? so far so good! It just added to the whole experience that he was very helpful and most importantly patient. A week passed and my SERPS increased dramatically, I went from the top of page 2 to number 6 on page 1, which I am extremely pleased about. To conclude, I would definitely recommend this service as a one off to increase your SERPs and I would use this service on all of my projects (if I had more than 1 xD). Thanks very much IxRumer
- jboy184
So is that from a Bicycle Shop or did you lift it ?

AdultKing 10-16-2010 12:11 PM
One would suggest that if you are going to post a testimonial, make sure a quick Google search wont prove you copied it elsewhere :)

Machete_ 10-16-2010 12:14 PM
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Originally Posted by jkthedesigner (Post 17613417)
Sorry to hear that. I'm not trying to offer a way to the demise of your competition. I'm just showing the hole in your line of reasoning.
Ok, let's take a look at the hole in your reasoning:

If your service provides such stellar results, why do you bother selling it to other people for peanuts instead of running it for your own sites and making 50x that money?

A few sites in google top 10 would bring in $x,xxx per day, with no work involved.

So why waste your time, arguing on boards through the day in hopes of getting a couple clients who spend meager $50-$100 ?

jkthedesigner 10-16-2010 12:15 PM
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Originally Posted by Machete_ (Post 17613400)
I'm speaking from personal experience here. I had my host contact me and almost shut my account down - because someone spammed my url on some forums and they received the complains. Only because i was with them for a long time and they never had problems with me, they didn't delete my sites (but they were pretty pissed).
I'm sorry but I'm not sure this has anything to do with the service I am offering.

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Originally Posted by minicivan (Post 17613393)
The real question is the one that people who offer seo services can never answer - If you have all these "diamonds" why are you trying to sell coal?
Coal is cheaper than diamonds. You can choose what you want. That is why there are multiple packages..

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Originally Posted by Tempest (Post 17613399)
You don't have a clue how this should be used if you're worried about being shut down etc. now do you... :1orglaugh

Being shut down for comment etc. "spam"??? :1orglaugh Me thinks you're thinking about the wrong sort of spam.

As for whether it works or not, how long was wedigporn #1 for porn? How did he get there?
:thumbsup

Quote:
Originally Posted by Phoenix66 (Post 17613425)
As far as I understand he's not offering direct forum spamming, he's offering forum profile spamming which is way different. Getting abuse from that is very unlikely.

Also, there are "clean" and "dirty" lists of forums. If you direct-spam forums that are randomly gathered from internet - you will get abuses, no doubts, and if you have a lot of them - you can get your hosting account shut down, though I never heard of domain shut-down in this case. Clean lists are usually consists of forums that are abandoned or owned by people who do not care about spam and do not write complaints.
You nailed it on the head :thumbsup

The links are added to profiles. Spamming on forum posts is a disaster waiting to happen.

We have white and black lists that are constantly updated. It's my job to stay on top of things, not yours.

AdultKing 10-16-2010 12:19 PM
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Originally Posted by jkthedesigner (Post 17613452)

We have white and black lists that are constantly updated. It's my job to stay on top of things, not yours.
Well we already know you can use cut and paste to copy a testimonial from another website then present it as your own AND THEN lie about it when confronted with proof of your deception.

So sure, anyone would trust you.

jkthedesigner 10-16-2010 12:26 PM
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Originally Posted by AdultKing (Post 17613456)
Well we already know you can use cut and paste to copy a testimonial from another website then present it as your own AND THEN lie about it when confronted with proof of your deception.

So sure, anyone would trust you.
My testimonial was probably scraped from the internet like everything else is. This is the first time I've actually posted on the internet about this service.

AdultKing 10-16-2010 12:30 PM
Umm dude, you posted the testimonial in this thread exactly as you copied it from xrumergod.com.

I smell bullshit in everything you say.

What you are saying is that Xrumergod scraped your testimonial and changed the name before you posted it on this forum!!!! For fucks sake.. do you think we are all stupid ?

jkthedesigner 10-16-2010 12:32 PM
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Originally Posted by Jesus H Christ (Post 17613461)
Let me throw in a little advice for any potential Xrumer service link buyers. BUT first if you know how to use xrumer or hrefer you'd already know there is an option to grade your list by PR. So you don't need a "mass Page Rank Checker". Second, you would never, I mean EVER mass PM a forum because that triggers instant complaints to google via WMT.
Correct. I've never spoken of a mass Private Message..?


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Simple, you will find out what sites/links or key-phrase get ranked indexed with ZERO risk to you. Matter of fact, you will get paid for it. I'll explain it very simple terms, what most people don't know is there are sites out there that somehow fell through the cracks with Google. They are true diamonds in the coal because they can be a PR-0 or whatever and all content and links for some odd reason= instant love.
Umm outbound links don't really help let alone get "instant love."

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Also, there are many forums out there with a PR4 or better that have upgraded and their forum sits on a new sub-domain. Their old forum homepage redirects but the old join page does not and you now have access to 1000's of free old forum threads to link from. My favorite thing to do is check the most popular thread and then quote the op with a link in it. Or if they are dumb enough to leave HTML-on a new landing page for a mass mail with anchor text link. ......... Big love here folks.
Interesting idea. Never thought about doing that lol :thumbsup

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The only way i'd use your service: After I got a phrase in the top 10 I would employ your service to link spam the sites above me and then i'd drop a dime to Google and then climb the rank naturally. :2 cents:
:1orglaugh

Machete_ 10-16-2010 01:02 PM
You seem to (very conveniently) have missed my post, so I will quote it again:


Quote:
Originally Posted by Machete_ (Post 17613449)
Ok, let's take a look at the hole in your reasoning:

If your service provides such stellar results, why do you bother selling it to other people for peanuts instead of running it for your own sites and making 50x that money?

A few sites in google top 10 would bring in $x,xxx per day, with no work involved.

So why waste your time, arguing on boards through the day in hopes of getting a couple clients who spend meager $50-$100 ?

jkthedesigner 10-16-2010 01:07 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Machete_ (Post 17613449)
Ok, let's take a look at the hole in your reasoning:

If your service provides such stellar results, why do you bother selling it to other people for peanuts instead of running it for your own sites and making 50x that money?

A few sites in google top 10 would bring in $x,xxx per day, with no work involved.

So why waste your time, arguing on boards through the day in hopes of getting a couple clients who spend meager $50-$100 ?
I have done this. I don't make $1,000's a day but I do pretty decent :winkwink:

And just to let you know you can bring out this so called "hole" in just about any consulting company :1orglaugh

Machete_ 10-16-2010 01:09 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by jkthedesigner (Post 17613549)
I have done this. I don't make $1,000's a day but I do pretty decent :winkwink:

And just to let you know you can bring out this so called "hole" in just about any consulting company :1orglaugh
http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_KTHmYo26-U...keBullshit.jpg

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jkthedesigner 10-16-2010 01:30 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Jesus H Christ (Post 17613574)
because he is trying to make his $540 investment back.. seen this 100x. I'll say this again about xrumer.. The biggest problem with xrumer, it's only a tool designed around basic default strategy. Most people who buy it don't have a clue on strategy and learn it through the "basic" functions of Xrumer that is obsolete. In short, it's a catch 22 because if you already have a sound strategy xrumer just makes it easier.
I've made that much last month :321GFY

Look, all I am trying to do is offer a service. If you don't like the service or don't want it then that is fine. It's not going to hurt my feelings or my paycheck. If you don't want it then keep doing what you are doing. If you're interested or just want to learn more, you can contact me on ICQ

Alprazolam 10-16-2010 01:40 PM
haha fucking awesome.

Alprazolam 10-16-2010 01:41 PM
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Originally Posted by Machete_ (Post 17613319)
If your site is hosted even on a half assed decent host, your account will be shut down and sites deleted, as your hosting gets thousands of spam complains - i guarantee it.

Your domain may also be taken away by the registrar. (Remember all the idiots here whining about evil registrars, stealing their domains, when their NS status lists: domain-disabled-for-spam ?)
not true. far from it.

idiot.

Machete_ 10-16-2010 01:46 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by jkthedesigner (Post 17613594)
I've made that much last month :321GFY
:1orglaugh :1orglaugh

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jkthedesigner 10-16-2010 01:48 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Jesus H Christ (Post 17613601)
you need to get thicker skin... Plus I already threw you a bone in this thread. Next time you come to a forum I'd highly suggest raising the price because if your service was that good... you would not be giving it away for pennies. :2 cents:
True :thumbsup I tend to get defensive but that is just another thing I'm working on.

And you are probably correct. Prices are low right now so I can get a lot of reviews. I'd like to let results and reviews speak for themselves not some guy purely speculating :winkwink:

PGR 10-16-2010 02:31 PM
This guy copy/pasted his price list from xrumergod.com (or the BHW thread). He also marked the prices up. Most likely he's reselling xrumergod's services.

Jdoughs 10-16-2010 02:36 PM
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Originally Posted by P.G.R. (Post 17613720)
This guy copy/pasted his price list from xrumergod.com (or the BHW thread). He also marked the prices up. Most likely he's reselling xrumergod's services.
The prices, the package list, and the 'references' all come from xrumergod's site or threads.

jkthedesigner 10-16-2010 02:37 PM
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Originally Posted by P.G.R. (Post 17613720)
This guy copy/pasted his price list from xrumergod.com (or the BHW thread). He also marked the prices up. Most likely he's reselling xrumergod's services.
Packages do come from there. They were feasible with realistic prices. If you want to go ahead and try to "purchase" links with xrumergod go ahead. The only thing I've heard of him is that he scams through PM's. GL with that :1orglaugh

Jdoughs 10-16-2010 02:38 PM
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Originally Posted by jkthedesigner (Post 17613728)
Packages do come from there. They were feasible with realistic prices. If you want to go ahead and try to "purchase" links with xrumergod go ahead. The only thing I've heard of him is that he scams through PM's. GL with that :1orglaugh
When you accuse someone of being a scammer here you MUST post proof as well.

As it stands, you are using content, and testimonials from this guys site, and you back it up by calling him a scammer.

Nice seeing you post around here for a day.

PGR 10-16-2010 02:40 PM
You are full of shit.

Angry Jew Cat - Banned for Life 10-16-2010 02:50 PM
these services are completely full of shit. if it made the op any money, he wouldn't have time to spam your shit for a quick $50. he'd be continually expanding his own operation... :2 cents:

jkthedesigner 10-16-2010 02:59 PM
Believe what you want. You can all forget about it. I'll keep on doing what I'm doing and you keep doing what you're doing.

My project (why I'm even here) is still in development and it needs my attention more than these side jobs. I have other clients coming back over and over. Three or Four jobs more isn't going to make much of a difference.

Have a nice day. And I didn't say he was a scammer. Ask around and learn for yourself. Peace

AdultKing 10-17-2010 12:49 AM
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Originally Posted by jkthedesigner (Post 17613779)
Believe what you want. You can all forget about it. I'll keep on doing what I'm doing and you keep doing what you're doing.

My project (why I'm even here) is still in development and it needs my attention more than these side jobs. I have other clients coming back over and over. Three or Four jobs more isn't going to make much of a difference.

Have a nice day. And I didn't say he was a scammer. Ask around and learn for yourself. Peace
Nice tantrum. Next time you try to offer services here don't copy content from other people and call it your own, you will be caught out.

Don't be dishonest and lie about being caught out copying and pasting content from others.

Be prepared to back up your claims with facts, people much more knowledgeable than you reside here and will pick you apart.

Many of us have seen hundreds of newbies come and go on these threads trying to sell experienced operators snake oil like you have offered, be more creative next time and offer a real service with real value :2 cents:


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