How soon until we saw the heads off of employees who refuse to be searched naked?

That's a dumb fuck analogy since I always ask to hold the pickles and they
gladly do it every time and if they fuck up and forget and I complain they give
me the burger for free.

:helpme

someone call my name? :)

and they hire IDIOTS, as someone else had said, one step above mall cops:2 cents:

So I'm at one of the checks in Europe and I happen to get this fucking rookie, he's picking tru everything in my camera bag, which pisses me off in thew 1st place, lifts up some chargers and lo and behold he comes accross a mini vibrator:Oh crap

They were handing them out in Miami at the meet n greet Vivid was I think, u could wear it around your neck
I put it in the camera bag and then totally forgot about it.

So he says whats this ? I said its a dildo, by this time the idiot is getting on my nerves, is it for male or female he asks... female I say , so he puts it in a tray with the camera , to be checked by his supervisor,

He's sort of snickering ..... the super comes over takes a cursory look and sort of waves it off, as its nothing, but the ididot purposely lifts the dildo out and shows it to him, the super asks whats this ?

By this time I'm boiling ... I said ITS A FUCKING DILDO rather loudly......... he said calm down sir .... go ......

Both of them scurry back to the post and I notice this elderly worman smirking as I walk by :1orglaugh

Yeah, but the elderly woman was smirking because when she found out about being
searched she covertly planted her dildo in your bag.

:1orglaugh

I haven't "heard" about any "drug cases"

I'm just telling you that me and every tom, dick, and harry used to fly around with a little stash in our pocket. You don't do that shit now because they are searching you and everything you have.

Why are they going through everything you have when they already have scanners going on you? A metal detector is already in use, the pilots door is solid steel, as long as you don't have explosives on you at that point you can't do much of anything except tote an ass whipping on the plane. :1orglaugh

So what are they really looking for when they go through all of your stuff?

And why are they trying to "detain" someone like that pilot who decided "fuck it" I'm not gonna fly now?

That would be like deciding not to get in a taxi or on a bus and the driver "detaining" you. If you or me tried that shit it would be called "kidnapping"

Bottom line is that we are supposed to be free. And not being searched everywhere we go. It's a testament to how badly we are losing our liberty in this country. As I said earlier...in the 1970's planes were hijacked constantly. They COULD have put that steel door in at that point and stopped that dead cold. But they didn't.

In the 1980's a few planes were blown up in mid air. They COULD have put in explosives detection but they didn't.

This whole 9-11 thing is being used as an opportunity by authorities to do everything they never could before. From tapping our phones, to monitoring emails, to illegal search and seizure, and the list goes on and on.

I saw something on the news the other day where a commentator said that we need to realize "just how tall our enemy really is". And is the loss of our rights necessary or even effective against a handful of crazy people?

:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

What do they think the pilot is bringing something to pass off to someone else to take down a plane?

That's the only reason at all it could even make sense. The pilot can crash his own plane with no other tools.

His job is to fly. :1orglaugh

LOL "terrorism" is all a facade put up to strip away freedom.

it is not hard, when people are afraid you can control them.

create fear, you create control.

yep http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...s/c/ca/1x1.png

again, if he is truly opposed to it, he can quit.

Yep. I think people are finally starting to wake up to it though. Took me a few years.

The TSA agents had all just watched that show The Event and now they are all on high alert thanks to a TV show

They used to tell us X-Rays were safe and they were even used in shoe shops for measuring people's feet. Now they tell us that the Body Scanners that emit Terahertz are safe, even though they tear apart human DNA, but hey, those machines are getting someone very rich so best not look into the health time bomb.

Airport body scanners 'could give you cancer'
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/travel/tr...ou-cancer.html

Full-body scanners used on air passengers may damage human DNA
http://www.naturalnews.com/027913_fu...nners_DNA.html

Classic example has just happened this week

16 Oct 2010 France hit by new wave of mass pension protests
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-11559265

18 October 2010 France: Saudis warn of new al-Qaeda threat
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-11562598

This is how they try to control us, using an imaginary outside threat.

damn bilderberg group! working at the international level to destroy *our* freedoms, i.e. anyone who isn't a bilderberg member. no wait, i mean the NWO, damn NWO working at the international level over 100s of years to create a facade of terrorism to keep us on our knees.

no wait, the damn jews, working at the international level to keep all non-jews on our knees!

no wait,

This is really sad but don't worry people once they have complete control in the middle east those machines will soon disappear lol ;) :1orglaugh

Yeah, it's like that.



Here's how they act if you provoke them a little..

Or not very much :)

That is not a job, it's a profession and I hardly see anyone through away his freedom or profession to the benefits of Big Brother unless is a fucking sheep

They tell you to go to war, kill people and get killed for freedom and they are the first ones taking that freedom away from you. The only enemy is the system

The biggest problem with the Backscatter, etc imaging machines is that they take WAY too fucking long to clear people. You have to stand there for 7 seconds while it takes an image, then if you have ANYTHING they are unsure about, they want to do a pat down. I was in a hurry on Saturday at LAX, so I went through one - did not have time to ask for alternate screening -- and I had to go to secondary for my watch -- which was clearly visible on my arm since I had on short sleeves. The person watching the monitor communicates to the agent the area that needs to be looked at -- in this case, my left wrist - and then you wait until they decide to check it. So instead of being through in 5 seconds and gathering my bags, it took about 20 seconds, of course while bags are piling up since they now go through faster than people with this system.

15 seconds may not sound like much, but you multiply that per person standing in the average security line and it's going to create a huge bottleneck that will cause nothing but problems for everyone.

Awesome. lol

this so called Pilot is a fucking pussy. And a looser. He's crying like a baby because he had to take his shoes off?

He works for a small airline that I've never heard of.

And the discussion about him being a pilot and not needing weapons to take down an aircraft down doesn't fly with me - What's to stop a terrorist from having a fucking pilot pass a weapon through security? Maybe he won't crash his airplane, but for $10k he might help out in other ways. Everyone passes through fucking security. Everyone, no exceptions.

This fucker needs to loose his pilot's license. I'm stunned that someone allowed to fly a fucking airplane is such a big cry baby over having to take off his fucking shoes.

read again - it was not about taking off the shoes

6 instances of "fuck" helped get your point across. Thanks for the added emphasis.

Irony, the real pussy became a folk hero.

rochard, you are on the rocks or something?
all airline employed (and most of all licensed pilots) have already been cleared through TSA through a threat assesment program (background check). Sure good eggs can go rotten but not very likely..

A passenger have a choice: go through the machine, fly private, drive or stay home..

I feel for this guy, he doesnt have a choice, either show your stuff or get fired..

The whole "Illuminati" "Bilderberg" "Terrorism" is all just pure image. You dont have to physically control people when you leave their minds trapped in fear.

Convince people that there is a problem/power that they cannot protect themselves against and then you can slowly strip away their freedoms.

you can even go around and projecting violence on society ie police brutality then you can ask people for their guns and beat them with it. because the more you project violence on society the more people are ok with it and the more you can use violence against them.

the entire world is a calculated pattern. you can choose to live outside of it.

that is why i got really into world history and the teachings of different societies. everything boils back to control. and you realize all societies are controlled by the same way. and that control is pure facade it only matters because people make/let it matter.

the greatest minds in the world realize you dont have to do things behind closed doors anymore. you do it right out in the open and you can make anything become a trend, no matter how violent or evil people will follow along.

exactly. so why can't he take his pilot skills to another company, or maybe even for himself. you know, buy a small plane, move somewhere relaxing, and fly like that? money? i guess the loss of privacy isn't really that important to him. this whole show was nothing more than empty posturing.

bureaucracy out of control, nothing more & nothing less. for this to be construed as a small group of people controlling another, larger group through fear with the goal being to strip away freedom doesn't understand the issues of complex social systems and assumes there's something of value for the one group of people to strip the other's freedoms away.

it's not a conspiracy.

of course there is value in it, that value being in control of things.

more aptly, it's not a conspiracy theory.

some of u are stupid.. he is the pilot of the damn airplane.. if he wanted to crash it, he could in 5mins.. upon takeoff he could just push the stick down and do a nose dive and say bye bye to everyone...

pilots dont need such strict screening.. its stupid.. if a pilot wanted to crash an airplane he'd just do it.. he doesnt need to smuggle a bomb on board

WTF? stop making sense!

How is Rochard supposed to rev his Mustang engine and pretend he knows what he is talking about?

so *they* are controlling just for the sake of controlling? this worldwide group of *them* is behind the curtain orchestrating this control all the way down to the tsa rep?
hardly.



also, i didn't mention theory. this doesn't even meet the standard of theory.

the TSA rep is just a tool. He does like he's told, just like the police, just like the border patrol, just like the soldiers, just like the angry DMV lady. Orders don't come from the bottom, they come from the top.

that misses my point. i'm not saying the tsa rep gets a seat on the controlling group's spacecraft. i'm saying there's zero value in *them* creating fear by manipulating a tsa rep to enforce *their* control like this. the policy is a result of bureaucracy out of control.

as long as people think it's the other group's by design plan to control, we can't face and deal with the real issue: bureaucracy out of control.

Out of chaos comes order. Even if that chaos is manufactured. As long as people believe there is a threat "out there" (i.e. teh evil terrorists) they will willingly hand over their freedoms to any official entity. (i.e. government, the TSA, Homeland Security, etc.)

Security in exchange for privacy = neither.

Oh, you mean like the "Fear of God" hmmm... fucking morons. perfect political base, a group of people already conditioned to believe in fairy tales unquestionably.

the only part of this i disagree with is the manufactured chaos implication. there's simply no proof that this is a by design plan created by the leaders of some SPECTRE sort of outfit.

the plain and simple fact is that most all of us live in a society with rules that are in place to create a more harmonious society for everyone. sometimes those rules get bent out of shape, like a 55 mph speed limit or a tsa policy to xray pilots. just like government's answer for a fucked up government is more government<-- that's not by design

it's not an evil plot orchestrated at the highest level. it's fucked up bureacrats