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Tom_PM 10-29-2010 11:13 AM

I once got a dozen or so sales in a day from a hun gallery for mature touch when it was a fairly new site. One tgp pic gallery lol. I think it was $42 a sale plus reward points. Not bad for 12 or 15 low res pictures and 2 text ads.

Can you do that today? And no, I never paid for any listings anywhere ever. It was not a super high placed listing or anything. I think it was maybe 2002? Cant remember.

signupdamnit 10-29-2010 11:14 AM

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Originally Posted by stocktrader23 (Post 17651764)
YouTube is on the verge of brining in hundreds of millions per year in profit. Not gross, profit. They will be much more profitable in the future too. Sorry, but adapt or die couldn't be more fitting.

But is General Mills ever going to be willing to advertise their cereals on Pornhub? What about Dow Chemical? It's unlikely. Youtube isn't a pornsite it has a wider appeal and different demographics. It's a different ballgame.

BlackCrayon 10-29-2010 11:17 AM

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Originally Posted by stocktrader23 (Post 17651764)
YouTube is on the verge of brining in hundreds of millions per year in profit. Not gross, profit. They will be much more profitable in the future too. Sorry, but adapt or die couldn't be more fitting.

Until they do, its all just talk. They bought youtube in 2006 for 1.65 billion and have yet to make a profit. That says something.

stocktrader23 10-29-2010 11:20 AM

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Originally Posted by signupdamnit (Post 17651772)
I think you missed the point. More money passed through The Hun in 1998 than what passes through Pornhub in 2010. The same will probably be true in 2015 as well, but by a greater margin. Ad rates are mostly determined by ROI.

No. I seriously doubt this. People throw their videos to these tubes because sales come in from them just like galleries. It's just not filtering through a damn affiliate first. What that means is that 50% of the revenue automatically equals more money than they made from affiliates.

stocktrader23 10-29-2010 11:22 AM

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Originally Posted by BlackCrayon (Post 17651792)
Until they do, its all just talk. They bought youtube in 2006 for 1.65 billion and have yet to make a profit. That says something.

What, you don't believe it? They did the same thing every other big company does in gaining marketshare first. YouTube, Facebook, etc will all be FINE.

Tom_PM 10-29-2010 11:29 AM

Youtube's logo today proclaims that they've reached 1 billion subscribers.

edit: oops no, it says 1 billion subscriptions to be exact.

BlackCrayon 10-29-2010 11:29 AM

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Originally Posted by stocktrader23 (Post 17651812)
What, you don't believe it? They did the same thing every other big company does in gaining marketshare first. YouTube, Facebook, etc will all be FINE.

They already had the marketshare though. Who is the competition? Break.com? Yeah right. Youtube is *the* site for maintream video and has been for years. I'm not sure how long it took facebook to be profitable but it seemed like once its popularity caught on, bam, that was it. Youtube is already popular, so they only thing they can do is monitize better.

stocktrader23 10-29-2010 11:31 AM

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Originally Posted by BlackCrayon (Post 17651841)
They already had the marketshare though. Who is the competition? Break.com? Yeah right. Youtube is *the* site for maintream video and has been for years. I'm not sure how long it took facebook to be profitable but it seemed like once its popularity caught on, bam, that was it. Youtube is already popular, so they only thing they can do is monitize better.

And they will. And it won't be $2,000,000 per year with 5,000 affiliates to pay half of that money to. They will make hundreds of millions per year. The big adult tubes will do similar on a smaller scale but it will still be more money than the big boys are making now. The income streams are changing, amount spent is not.


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