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rowan

11-01-2010 03:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Monique Niccole (Post 17656387)

I can't wait for thread where he's begging to sell those sites because they're not making any money.

They just missed out on some sweet traffic from PI and PB.

If that happens then someone's going to get a great ROI... drop all those stupid rules, release more FHGs, sales will be quadruple within 30 days! :1orglaugh

redwhiteandblue

11-01-2010 03:41 AM

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Originally Posted by AlphaSky (Post 17656990)

Our goal is not to allow affiliates to create a free library of our content online that reduces overall sales to affiliates and ourselves.

How is that working out for you?

Roald

11-01-2010 03:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Nicky (Post 17656421)

they must have worked something out in that case cause I remember Roald saying in a thread "we told them we would remove the FHGs and we will not promote them anymore at all. Too much hassle."

We don't promote them anymore as in we don't put any new fhgs/content up. They have their section(s) and thats about it. Too much hassle indeed ;)))

BigRod

11-01-2010 04:00 AM

Honestly how many of you preaching about the sanctity of a TOS have the time to read the TOS of every company you do business with. Jesus Google AdSense updates their TOS daily, if I read every update it would consume my day.

When doing business with a company you have to trust their TOS is similar to everyone else in the industry. When they bring a violation to YOUR attention, then and only do you have to decide whether promoting their company is worth it.

Without going into detail I recently had a similar situation come up, when I was made aware of the TOS infringement (YES, I was made aware) I had to make a choice as to whether or not I wanted to do continue to business with them under their restrictions. In this particular case I choose to cease business, but harbor no ill will towards the program.

Hell its their program and really they can drive it into the ground if they want to.

richmedia

11-01-2010 04:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AlphaSky

We have sent out numerous emails to all our affiliates and gave them well over a month to make the needed adjustments

We never got any alerts from you!

candyflip

11-01-2010 05:12 AM

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Originally Posted by AlphaSky (Post 17657459)

You can't compare us to Twistys. Twistys is a "mega site" with hundreds of women. We have 2 sets of twins. That's it. Once affiliates create multiple free libraries of our content it creates a lack of interest due to over exposure and too many free samples.

We sell our original content to our members for $ 24.95. We don't give it away for free.

Ask yourself how many websites have you seen come and go in the last 5 years? Why? Because their content gets blown out all over the net with over promotion.

It's up to the site owners and affiliates to keep a lid on the splurge of free samples to keep the traffic interested in "buying" a membership as opposed to just Googling it and finding a multitude of affiliate libraries with hundreds of free samples. If you were a site owner of original content (not sure if you are or not, don't bite my ass off.) you would understand this. Affiliates don't share the same risk because when the site gets blown out, he can simply delete dead affiliate programs and move on to the next one. We are not going to let that happen to our sites. We've been making money for over 2 years now with just 4 models and we plan on continuing by dodging all the pitfalls of over promotion online.

Make 'em pay to see what they want to see... not give it all away for free and wonder why sales are so bad.

I've seen people mention that there's not much content in the member's area to begin with, so putting out all 12 of your galleries on one site is pretty much giving them access to most of your member's area.

I couldn't be bother to check out your stuff, because you've come off as a moron on here...so I don't know if this is the case or not.

Slick

11-01-2010 05:19 AM

I don't understand why they'd want to limit the use of their hosted galleries. If I had a program, I wouldn't care if someone built a site of just my hosted galleries, wouldn't you want the exposure ?? As long as they're not using a pass to your site, pulling your content, and making their own, why would you care ??

MrMaxwell

11-01-2010 06:13 AM

I think the site owner is trying to say over exposure when he keeps mentioning over promotion. What is this guy doing with a program? These poor girls need a better manager! LoL over here.

Alpha Sky - why not make a pile of very softcore FHGs? Your position is, they'll pay to see, great - use soft promo material. But provide more. A-lot more. And erase the "over promotion" bullshit from your brain - what are you, doing too many drugs? Please!

Brujah

11-01-2010 07:00 AM

Alpha Sky has his mind made up and he's stubborn so that's probably what will eventually kill his program. Not whether or not someone posts 8 or 12 FHGs.

pornguy

11-01-2010 07:09 AM

Limiting the number of galleries available is not that bad of a thing. But terming an account without speaking to the person for something like that. Hrm...

MrMaxwell

11-01-2010 07:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Brujah (Post 17658083)

Alpha Sky has his mind made up and he's stubborn so that's probably what will eventually kill his program. Not whether or not someone posts 8 or 12 FHGs.

Good way to fucking tank a business. Have your mind made up and be stubborn.

Agent 488

11-01-2010 08:05 AM

i assume the 12 galleries is the whole members area so year, if you have 12 gals up why buy .... has a certain logic.

fris	11-01-2010 08:36 AM

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Originally Posted by AlphaSky (Post 17656990)

Hello, It's really not fair that you feel you can break our rules and over promote our sites while all our other affiliates are following our simple rules.

We are not mean people nor looking to cause trouble.

We have sent out numerous emails to all our affiliates and gave them well over a month to make the needed adjustments.

We NEVER contacted CCBill directly. When an account is suspended an email comes from us, via CCBill in a computer generated format.

We don't have anything personal against anybody, we just simply need to enforce our easy to follow rules against over promotion so that all our affiliates can continue to makes sales.

Our goal is not to allow affiliates to create a free library of our content online that reduces overall sales to affiliates and ourselves.

In our TOS and in our Affiliate Media pages (where the FHG content is located) it simply outlines the rules of posting our FHG's. It's not difficult and it's not unreasonable.

The max per location is 4 per site. If you promote both our sites, then it's 4 from one, and 4 from the other. No posting in public free forums that don't update. Affiliates are to use our FHG's in their own affiliate websites.

If you would please simply correct the situation instead of blaming us, your account will be reinstated within moments and we can move forward and keep making sales.

Let's keep our eye's on the ball. We are here to make you money. We have solid 3rd party billers, you will always get paid on time every time wtih CCBill. Yes, our rules might not "mesh" with what you are used to, but the internet and the adult market is changing daily. We are doing what is needed to survive to keep our affiliates and ourselves happy with sales.

Over promotion = death of a website.

We have put our content "back in the plastic wrapper" to induce more sales in the long run.

Thank you for understanding.

Alpha Sky Productions

why would you care if more than 4 galleries are listed?

richmedia sends 1000's of signups to programs, and you are doing a good job of pissing all the affiliates off.

no wonder you have hardly any members, look at ftvcash, and other programs where they have so many hosted galleries, theirs a reason for it, and they have a huge member base in return.

I think you are doing more harm than good with the limited content.

DamianJ

11-01-2010 08:47 AM

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Originally Posted by fris (Post 17658392)

why would you care if more than 4 galleries are listed?

Because he only has 12 sets of twins pretending to commit incest in the members' area seems to be the popular thought.

I can see why he doesn't want ALL of his fake family fucking in the wild, cos then when someone that wants to see two relatives pretend to they are about to fuck, he would be really disappointed as he has seen all the content already.

czarina

11-01-2010 08:49 AM

that is ridiculous, because of using 12 galleries at a time? Jeez!

Klen	11-01-2010 09:16 AM

I found this hilarious since some programs like nubiles have over 10k+ fhgs yet they still convert very good....

AlphaSky

11-01-2010 04:13 PM

Thanks again. :thumbsup

We'll fall in line and do everything exactly the same, as it has been done for years.

We'll create 1000 FHG's, with free flash movies! Tons of them! We'll have bonus $ 100 per sign up days every Tuesday and Thursday!!! 70% sign up pay outs for the first 10 signs ups, then it'll go to 80% after that!! Yes!! that's it!!! We'll all be rich rich rich!!!! We'll get our own merchant account and we'll never steal or skim sales, no, not us!! We'll maintain these great high payouts and great massive promotional materials cause sales will be amazing!!

I'll get started on it now.... the new programs will debut this weekend!!!

We'll be number #1 on the google search cause we'll be all over the net!! We'll have the biggest websites on the planet!!! Huge profits, huge income!! I'll go buy a new car, new house, throw wild adult promotional parties!!!! ahh, life is good again.

Porn isn't dead, it was just waiting for us!!!

ottopottomouse

11-02-2010 05:09 AM

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Originally Posted by AlphaSky (Post 17661090)

Still not doing it right if you only buy one new car.

stocktrader23

11-02-2010 05:18 AM

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Originally Posted by AlphaSky (Post 17661090)

Serious question, how much content is in the members area?

fris	11-02-2010 05:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by stocktrader23 (Post 17662500)

Serious question, how much content is in the members area?

probably less than 20 sets of content.

DamianJ

11-02-2010 05:40 AM

100 pics in a members area...

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The fact he is not denying there are only 12 sets of pics of the sisters pretending to be about to commit incest suggests there is no more content there.

Sad day.

u-Bob

11-02-2010 06:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DamianJ (Post 17662547)

The fact he is not denying there are only 12 sets of pics of the sisters pretending to be about to commit incest suggests there is no more content there.

Sad day.

what he said.

Zyber

11-02-2010 06:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DamianJ (Post 17662547)

100 pics in a members area...

--

The fact he is not denying there are only 12 sets of pics of the sisters pretending to be about to commit incest suggests there is no more content there.

Sad day.

ouch! That is way too little content. Must piss off members..

Brujah

11-02-2010 06:15 AM

He might be onto something. A paysite, with 12 images rotating only 6 images per month. Absolutely brilliant!

Freaky_Akula

11-02-2010 06:28 AM

Never seen a sponsor having so stupid limits.

ottopottomouse

11-02-2010 06:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Brujah (Post 17662639)

He might be onto something. A paysite, with 12 images rotating only 6 images per month. Absolutely brilliant!

Exclusivity.

Restricted production adds value. Ferrari always make less of a model of car than they know they have customers for. So he needs a twin pic for every member -1.

CyberHustler

11-02-2010 10:09 AM

Damn... yall went in on homeboy. He doesn't deserve all that hate. There's known scammers that get more love on here... this dude is just a little less fortunate than most and yall burnin' him this bad...

Knowing GFY, dude is probably black. :pimp

pimp3611

11-02-2010 10:24 AM

This alphasky has to be one of the most clueless I've come across since I started in this biz.

Just too much to laugh about in this thread :1orglaugh :1orglaugh :1orglaugh

FlexxAeon

11-02-2010 10:25 AM

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Originally Posted by NanoBot (Post 17663483)

:1orglaugh

it's because there is a lot of mismanaged (if not wasted) potential there, and it frustrates folks. those sites should be killing.

Yahook

11-02-2010 04:23 PM

It's funny to see that such affiliate programs are still alive :)

AlphaSky

11-02-2010 06:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DamianJ (Post 17662547)

100 pics in a members area...

--

The fact he is not denying there are only 12 sets of pics of the sisters pretending to be about to commit incest suggests there is no more content there.

Sad day.

100 pics in our member's area? I wish we had that many. No, we only have about 30 photographs, and 1 video. We might be adding another video soon. I think our rebills will really start to add up when we add that 2nd video.

Jon Oso

11-02-2010 07:12 PM

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Originally Posted by AlphaSky (Post 17665577)

It's funny to a point, but there are people in here that actually want to know the answer to that question.

I don't care either way, I'm just trying to point out that not everyone is on your ass talking shit.

The Porn Nerd

11-02-2010 08:37 PM

I let anyone promote my shit - free money hey ho, hey ho.

Nurgle

11-02-2010 08:40 PM

why anyone would promote this idiots site is beyond me

AlphaSky

11-02-2010 09:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jon Oso (Post 17665682)

If anybody wants to know what is inside our sites, they can actually go to our sites and see for themselves. I can't believe nobody has visited our site tour and browsed around. On the "Join" pages it clearly lets the surfer know exactly what they are getting for the buck.

??? I really don't understand this at all. I think they (not you) are just running out of things to fight about. It's usually the same group of trolls, about 10-15 that go from thread to thread simply harrassing and saying nasty things about people and their businesses. I'm not sure what is going on here on GFY. These trolls are taking over this forum.

So what will they shit on next week? Let's see, how about our locations where we shoot? or costumes? Tune in next week and find out cause the trolling never ends.

I wish the GFY people would put an end to those that abuse these boards.

I thought making unjustified accusations was prohibited here. Somebody stated we have 100 pics in our member's area. I guess it's just a free for all and the trolls can run wild and say anything they want to. Watch out, your sites could be next if they focus in on you. It's really sad what is going on here. One reason why making money online is getting harder. Trolls fighting webmasters that are trying to help affiliates make money. The market place is hard enough as it is, now we have to deal with this?

LeRoy

11-02-2010 09:42 PM

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Originally Posted by AlphaSky (Post 17665577)

Your rules make perfect sense now.

Using 10 galleries to you is displaying your whole members section. Why would someone pay for a membership when they just saw it on an affiliates site?

You might want to add more content IMO. Unless you're happy with the income the site is generating.

AlphaSky

11-02-2010 09:44 PM

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Originally Posted by LeRoy (Post 17665960)

??? I guess some people don't understand sarcasm, my bad. Now, I gotta run, gonna work on our 2nd video release.

Agent 488

11-02-2010 09:50 PM

please gfy. stop the cycle of violence. end thread.

dig420

11-02-2010 09:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tempest (Post 17657327)

Yeah.. That's why sites like Twistys and soooooooooo many others are dieing and you know just exactly how it should be done... You should teach all of them from your vast experience... buy a clue.

I know lol... just an FYI, anyone can overpromote me all they want. I don't mind a bit ;)

baddog

11-02-2010 10:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tempest (Post 17657327)

Yeah.. That's why sites like Twistys and soooooooooo many others are dieing and you know just exactly how it should be done... You should teach all of them from your vast experience... buy a clue.

Comparing him to Twisty's is like comparing On the Rocks to McDonald's.

Quote:

Originally Posted by FlexxAeon (Post 17657511)

if 8+ galleries is "all" then there's a bigger problem :2 cents:

Yet, you still want to promote him? Have you visited his members area? Are you even an affiliate?

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