it's much more simple than that.

the thinking is

if someone can link 2 mutually exclusives events together in a way that makes that linking a massive coincidence, then the 2 events together = conspiracy.

which one? i thought there was several

which one what?

I don't know about you guys but I pay real fucking close attention to the security measures when I am in the airport. Its a complete mess, the guys looking at the scanners are tired, not interested and half the time not paying close attention to what they are seeing. Next time you are on the security line, just look over at the guy/girl behind the monitor. Look at their eyes and the way in which the process the bags Its scary! Good Luck to us all!

it doesn't matter to many posters in this thread, they've concluded it's all a ploy to keep us in fear. no such thing as terrorism/hijacking martyrs/etc.

I understand that is the manner of thinking from which conspiracy theories gestate. My point is that, as conspiracy theories go, the notion that these package bombs were planted by the government in furtherance of lubricating public acceptance of airport body scanners is just more of a non sequitur than would be a conspiracy theory positing that this was a 'false flag' operation in furtherance of aiding the government's defense in the al Awlaki lawsuit.

My personal belief is that the bombing plot was not a conspiracy of any kind beyond the most obvious sort suggested by the facts that have been offered/reported here; namely, it was a conspiracy to set off some bombs.

It's not a terribly exciting theory, I know... but it has the merit of being simple enough to be practicable.

I don't even have a clue what that is - might as well be powdered dinosaur penis.

thank you, thank you, thank you

finally someone on gfy with a brain.

I really want to work up the nerve to travel some day with a big rubber dong shoved down my pants just to see the look on the face of the female TSA agent when she grabs hold of it while patting me down. The comebacks for the question of "What's this" are just too many to pick one.

"In flight entertainment"
"So THAT'S where that thing went! I have been looking everywhere for it"
"Wanna go to the bathroom and find out?"
and of course the obvious, spoken in a rather loud voice;
"It's my COCK! What do you think it is?"

Pretty sure this would just be a one way ticket into the little room with the latex gloves and KY jelly so for now this is merely pure fantasy. Makes them wonder why I am giggling when I get patted down though. :)

that's exactly my point.:thumbsup

it's the explosive chemical found in the device and mentioned in every intelligently written news article re: the matter that i've read.

Looks again like another false flag attack.

This one is much like the "Underwear-Bomber" hoax (on December 28th) that was used to extend many of the Patriot Act provisions that were set to expire on January 1st.

It's once again very interesting how this new fake terror scare was timed on the eve of the mid-term elections. Notice how HARD they are pushing this in the corporate controlled media. I bet once the last ballot is counted, you won't hear another word about it. Maybe you will, but it will dusted off and used for the eventual full scale invasion into Yemen. Any one that tunes into even a little bit of alternative news knew this was coming.

With 9/11 and the never ending chain of on going false flag attacks, I think the general public is now being forced to pull their heads from their asses, and wake up to what's being done to them. I see more people starting to question things now, which is a positive sign.

I'll be flying this weekend...I'll opt for the patdown for the simple fact that the line will probably be shorter.

The guy in The Atlantic article makes a great point.

If a terrorist wants to shut down air travel and kill a lot of people, they can just do what they're going to do in the security line.

When you think about it that way, all of the security is a bit ridiculous.

Glad to see you woke up JFK :)

Nice sig. I read some stuff from lewrockwell.com from time to time. Any other good recommends?

Such an attack would shutdown an airport, but not the entire system.

Furthermore, the government would like spin such an attack as an example of the security working, since it would have occurred outside of the security checkpoint.

Airliners themselves remain a primary target of terrorists, in large part due to the amount of destruction one can do with a large jet fully loaded with fuel, as was well illustrated in the 911 attacks...

Pilots of large jets are trained to ditch away from populated areas when in doubt of being able to land safely, such as the pilot who ditched into the Hudson. Terrorists know the power of jets and hence remain a highly sought target.

Such an argument about the security line itself being as much a threat as what they're attempting to protect against would be more applicable to public schools - if one is seeking to attack a school, the security line is likely among the best places to do it.

But, to reiterate, for a terrorist fixated on airline travel, the plane itself remains the primary target - and in that regard, despite all the theatrics and shortcomings of security screenings, the current focus of TSA security of keeping terrorists away from the planes is the correct emphasis.

Ron

don't fly UPS airlines!

@ OP - it wouldn't surprise me one bit if it were all related. You watch how easily the body scanners are accepted now. :disgust

The sad thing is it makes travelling to places like the US that much more of a drag.
That is absolute key :2 cents:

please point out where that has happened in this thread.

It's funny, I told my husband that this was a setup and that they were going to either declare war on someone or try to pass some sort of law. I should start gambling, I'm pretty good at this!

what war has been declared and/or law passed as a result of this?

:1orglaugh I will be sure to FedEx myself from here on out

priority! :thumbsup

Key words here are "Saudi national".

Um, 9/11, how many of them were "Saudi nationals"? Like all of them but one?

Be sure to get tracking and insurance, you're too pretty to get misplaced and end up in Timbuktu. :winkwink:

If you've been following, Yemen is a prime target and one of the next fronts on the so called "global war on terror."

Yemen Emerges as Base for Qaeda Attacks on U.S.

..that article is interesting, because the article was published just a day after this new false flag attempted toner cartridge bomb plot by the Wall Street Journal (which is just another of the establishments propaganda media arms). In it they cite the known CIA conspirator "Anwar al-Awlaki" who they say is now hiding in... surprise, "Yemen!" Quote: "The American-born cleric Anwar al-Awlaki had been in contact with the would-be bomber, and some analysts believe the latest effort may also be linked to Mr. Awlaki, a charismatic preacher who remains in hiding in Yemen and has issued threats by Internet."


THIS IS HILARIOUS because "Anwar Al-Awlaki" is also connected to the Christmas Day bombing, the Fort Hood shooting, the Times Square bombing attempt, and also was a religious leader to the alleged September 11 hijackers.

NOW, here's the kicker..

EXCLUSIVE: Al Qaeda Leader Dined at the Pentagon Just Months After 9/11

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2010/10/20...ntagon-months/

Anwar Al-Awlaki is always connected to to these false flag events. He's like the new Osama! The CIA just moves him around where they need to justify an invasion, or what not.

what do you mean if i've been following.


bottomline: no war has been declared and no laws have been passed as a result of the device found.

read this: http://www.askthepilot.com/essays-an...y-on-security/

it's all bullshit anyways - all those security checks. IF someone wanted to bring a plane down it can still be done - anytime.

and TSA is the most useless, annoying collection of imbeciles that has been put together by humans in history

excellent article. the TSA is a perfect example of the government's answer to government not working: more government.

http://www.askthepilot.com/wp-conten...SnowGlobes.jpg

No conspiracy has ever existed, they are ALL just theories. Idiots.

;)

Not "declared" ...but "expanded." This global war on terror is moving to country after country unabated.

As for laws...


Readout of Secretary Napolitano's Participation in the International Civil Aviation Organization Triennial Assembly

Release Date: September 28, 2010

For Immediate Release
Office of the Press Secretary
Contact: 202-282-8010

MONTREAL?Department of Homeland Security (DHS) Secretary Janet Napolitano today visited Montreal to participate in the International Civil Aviation Organization (ICAO) Triennial Assembly and urge representatives from nearly 190 ICAO countries to approve an unprecedented joint Declaration on Aviation Security?following the joint declarations negotiated at the regional aviation security summits the Secretary has attended in Europe, Africa, Asia, the Middle East, and the Western Hemisphere over the past nine months.

?The United States applauds the ICAO?s unprecedented focus on enhancing international aviation security,? said Secretary Napolitano. ?Working together, the international community is forging a historic new foundation for aviation security that will better protect the entire global aviation system from evolving terrorist threats.?

U.S. Secretary of Transportation Ray LaHood, the head of the U.S. delegation, and Transportation Security Administration Administrator John Pistole joined Secretary Napolitano?who is the first U.S. Secretary of Homeland Security to participate in ICAO?s triennial meeting. ICAO, the United Nations? body governing aviation, sets global aviation standards.

In Montreal, Secretary Napolitano met with her counterparts from around the world to discuss the path forward on key aviation measures under consideration to strengthen the global aviation system?including the unprecedented joint Declaration on Aviation Security?which reflects the historic campaign, launched following the attempted terrorist attack on Dec. 25, 2009, to bolster worldwide aviation security standards. She also underscored the United States? support of the ICAO Comprehensive Aviation Security Strategy?a robust, comprehensive security framework that will establish a strong global aviation security strategy in the years ahead.

Since the attempted terrorist attack on Northwest Flight 253 from Amsterdam to Detroit on Dec. 25, 2009, Secretary Napolitano and the Department of Homeland Security have taken concrete steps to bolster security at airports across the United States?deploying law enforcement personnel, behavior detection officers, air marshals, and explosives detection canine teams; expediting the deployment of new Advanced Imaging Technology (AIT) units to help detect metallic and non-metallic explosives; and implementing new, enhanced security measures for all air carriers with international flights to the United States.

DHS also fulfilled a key 9/11 Commission recommendation in June 2010 by implementing Secure Flight for 100 percent of passengers flying domestically and internationally on U.S. airlines, meaning that the Transportation Security Administration, not the air carriers, vets passengers against government watchlists before a boarding pass is issued.

For more information, visit www.dhs.gov.

Readout of Secretary Napolitano's Participation in the International Civil Aviation Organization Triennial Assembly


Now they are trying now to RAM THIS SHIT DOWN THE THROATS OF 190 COUNTRIES!

There was a backlash building as countries like Dubai and Italy started to terminate their use harmful naked body scanners. Now the tide will be reversed because of this, and other countries will be more accepting of these draconian security measures brought to us through more fear and lies.

again, no war declared, no expansion. if the cia wants to do its dirty work in yemen, they do it, that's how the cia operates.

again, no laws passed, there's no been no laws passed, there's no law mentioned in that cut & paste.

Problem, Reaction, Solution..

We are not yet in the "Solution" phase.. ;-)

as i mentioned earlier, government's answer to fucked up government is more government. this started a long long time ago, decades and decades.

I couldn't agree more.

What's funny but sadly predictable about GFY is that someone who is by all accounts much smarter than any other poster in this thread, Q, has pointed out why it simply doesn't make any sense.

Instead of digesting what this man has to say, and learning a thing or two, the conspiracy retards go on patting each other on the back and "welcoming" their newest member. Morons every last one.

""They vetted people politically and showed indifference toward security and intelligence advice of others," the former agent said."

i thought this was interesting considering the couple that managed to sneak into the white house

sorry, i was referring to the devices that had been sent

I have worked as a security guard and I was patting people to find weapons or illegal objects. I think pat downs are a good idea.

48 hours before the mid-term elections ... hmm...

the pat down leaving Amsterdam was no joke, ask the epoch crew that were on my flight. the chick that patted us girls down stuck her hand straight down the back of my pants and had her way with my ass followed by feeling inside my bra (leaving my shirt over my bra but using the shirt to reach into my bra). i guess i was lookin pretty suspicious in my ripped up jeans and tshirt. maybe didnt help that i smelled of weed.

Like the others, this latest false flag seems to be falling apart completely.

Did Obama Order British Authorities To Find Non-Existent Ink Bomb?

Also..

Obama was informed of the plot at 10:35PM eastern Thursday night, despite the fact that the East Midlands package was only first discovered roughly at the exact same time ? 3:30am on Friday morning UK time.

http://www.whitehouse.gov/the-press-...y-robert-gibbs

:1orglaugh

Some of you absolutely amaze me. You're ridiculous.

I love Q and he's certainly entitled to his opinion, as are all the others in here. Perhaps some have more open minds than others:2 cents: