does anyone else see the irony of a nick 'JFK' creating a thread titled "Not a conspiracy theorist, but this is too much of a coincidence !"


no....


just me?


LOL

lol 8char

I'm not sure I see the coincidence in the first place, honestly.

On the one hand, you have technology that is designed to prevent people from smuggling bombs/bomb parts on to a plane by concealing those bombs/parts on their person.

On the other hand, you have bombs that were being transported as cargo, a result of their having been mailed to another country.

Since the bombs were not smuggled aboard on the body of a person, the proposed bodily x-ray technology the TSA wants to employ would not have (and could not have) prevented what transpired here.

As such, any argument (or "propaganda campaign," if you prefer) that these attempted bombings could have been prevented by the bodily x-ray technology would be easily refuted, as it would be patently and obviously false.

If you're reaching for conspiracy theories connected to this, I'd say it would be much more likely that this was in furtherance of the U.S. defending its decision to target Anwar al Awlaki for assassination, and to bolster their defense in the civil suit brought by al Awlaki. Given that the bombing plot is alleged to be the work of the AQAP ("Al Qaeda in the Arabian Peninsula") and al Awlaki is alleged to be a leader of the AQAP, that connection would make some sense to me as the basis of a conspiracy -- or (more likely IMO) as an act of mere opportunism, should it be the case that the bombs are real but the connection to AQAP is not.

I'm not at all suggesting that such a conspiracy is at work... just that it is a more plausible theory than the airport security/ x-ray one. :2 cents:

Scary thread.

Is the pat-down performed by a male officer for males and a female officer for women?

I definitely prefer a women and I believe it should be performed by a female officer in all the cases

I dont think its as much as a gov't conspiracy as much as it is outside contractors wanting those contracts to build out those machines and funding for TSA "training" :1orglaugh

Think about it tho... if they would of had these very expensive machines in place, these bombs would of never made it through. Someone probably said "nah, we dont need them" then they come back and say "told you so, now the price is higher!" :1orglaugh

:1orglaugh


I might talk smack about these scanners but the reality is that if I go
to the airport and they say "walk through here"; I'm walking through the "here"
they just pointed to.

I'm not even going to try to do something different because I don't think
it will work out any better.

Didn't you know that Fear sells?

Look a few posts above yours.

yeah I saw that after I posted... you beat me to it :thumbsup:winkwink:

it's much more simple than that.

the thinking is

if someone can link 2 mutually exclusives events together in a way that makes that linking a massive coincidence, then the 2 events together = conspiracy.

which one? i thought there was several

which one what?

I don't know about you guys but I pay real fucking close attention to the security measures when I am in the airport. Its a complete mess, the guys looking at the scanners are tired, not interested and half the time not paying close attention to what they are seeing. Next time you are on the security line, just look over at the guy/girl behind the monitor. Look at their eyes and the way in which the process the bags Its scary! Good Luck to us all!

it doesn't matter to many posters in this thread, they've concluded it's all a ploy to keep us in fear. no such thing as terrorism/hijacking martyrs/etc.

I understand that is the manner of thinking from which conspiracy theories gestate. My point is that, as conspiracy theories go, the notion that these package bombs were planted by the government in furtherance of lubricating public acceptance of airport body scanners is just more of a non sequitur than would be a conspiracy theory positing that this was a 'false flag' operation in furtherance of aiding the government's defense in the al Awlaki lawsuit.

My personal belief is that the bombing plot was not a conspiracy of any kind beyond the most obvious sort suggested by the facts that have been offered/reported here; namely, it was a conspiracy to set off some bombs.

It's not a terribly exciting theory, I know... but it has the merit of being simple enough to be practicable.

I don't even have a clue what that is - might as well be powdered dinosaur penis.

thank you, thank you, thank you

finally someone on gfy with a brain.

I really want to work up the nerve to travel some day with a big rubber dong shoved down my pants just to see the look on the face of the female TSA agent when she grabs hold of it while patting me down. The comebacks for the question of "What's this" are just too many to pick one.

"In flight entertainment"
"So THAT'S where that thing went! I have been looking everywhere for it"
"Wanna go to the bathroom and find out?"
and of course the obvious, spoken in a rather loud voice;
"It's my COCK! What do you think it is?"

Pretty sure this would just be a one way ticket into the little room with the latex gloves and KY jelly so for now this is merely pure fantasy. Makes them wonder why I am giggling when I get patted down though. :)

that's exactly my point.:thumbsup

it's the explosive chemical found in the device and mentioned in every intelligently written news article re: the matter that i've read.

Looks again like another false flag attack.

This one is much like the "Underwear-Bomber" hoax (on December 28th) that was used to extend many of the Patriot Act provisions that were set to expire on January 1st.

It's once again very interesting how this new fake terror scare was timed on the eve of the mid-term elections. Notice how HARD they are pushing this in the corporate controlled media. I bet once the last ballot is counted, you won't hear another word about it. Maybe you will, but it will dusted off and used for the eventual full scale invasion into Yemen. Any one that tunes into even a little bit of alternative news knew this was coming.

With 9/11 and the never ending chain of on going false flag attacks, I think the general public is now being forced to pull their heads from their asses, and wake up to what's being done to them. I see more people starting to question things now, which is a positive sign.

I'll be flying this weekend...I'll opt for the patdown for the simple fact that the line will probably be shorter.

The guy in The Atlantic article makes a great point.

If a terrorist wants to shut down air travel and kill a lot of people, they can just do what they're going to do in the security line.

When you think about it that way, all of the security is a bit ridiculous.

Glad to see you woke up JFK :)

Nice sig. I read some stuff from lewrockwell.com from time to time. Any other good recommends?

Such an attack would shutdown an airport, but not the entire system.

Furthermore, the government would like spin such an attack as an example of the security working, since it would have occurred outside of the security checkpoint.

Airliners themselves remain a primary target of terrorists, in large part due to the amount of destruction one can do with a large jet fully loaded with fuel, as was well illustrated in the 911 attacks...

Pilots of large jets are trained to ditch away from populated areas when in doubt of being able to land safely, such as the pilot who ditched into the Hudson. Terrorists know the power of jets and hence remain a highly sought target.

Such an argument about the security line itself being as much a threat as what they're attempting to protect against would be more applicable to public schools - if one is seeking to attack a school, the security line is likely among the best places to do it.

But, to reiterate, for a terrorist fixated on airline travel, the plane itself remains the primary target - and in that regard, despite all the theatrics and shortcomings of security screenings, the current focus of TSA security of keeping terrorists away from the planes is the correct emphasis.

Ron

don't fly UPS airlines!

@ OP - it wouldn't surprise me one bit if it were all related. You watch how easily the body scanners are accepted now. :disgust

The sad thing is it makes travelling to places like the US that much more of a drag.
That is absolute key :2 cents:

please point out where that has happened in this thread.

It's funny, I told my husband that this was a setup and that they were going to either declare war on someone or try to pass some sort of law. I should start gambling, I'm pretty good at this!

what war has been declared and/or law passed as a result of this?

:1orglaugh I will be sure to FedEx myself from here on out

priority! :thumbsup

Key words here are "Saudi national".

Um, 9/11, how many of them were "Saudi nationals"? Like all of them but one?

Be sure to get tracking and insurance, you're too pretty to get misplaced and end up in Timbuktu. :winkwink:

If you've been following, Yemen is a prime target and one of the next fronts on the so called "global war on terror."

Yemen Emerges as Base for Qaeda Attacks on U.S.

..that article is interesting, because the article was published just a day after this new false flag attempted toner cartridge bomb plot by the Wall Street Journal (which is just another of the establishments propaganda media arms). In it they cite the known CIA conspirator "Anwar al-Awlaki" who they say is now hiding in... surprise, "Yemen!" Quote: "The American-born cleric Anwar al-Awlaki had been in contact with the would-be bomber, and some analysts believe the latest effort may also be linked to Mr. Awlaki, a charismatic preacher who remains in hiding in Yemen and has issued threats by Internet."


THIS IS HILARIOUS because "Anwar Al-Awlaki" is also connected to the Christmas Day bombing, the Fort Hood shooting, the Times Square bombing attempt, and also was a religious leader to the alleged September 11 hijackers.

NOW, here's the kicker..

EXCLUSIVE: Al Qaeda Leader Dined at the Pentagon Just Months After 9/11

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2010/10/20...ntagon-months/

Anwar Al-Awlaki is always connected to to these false flag events. He's like the new Osama! The CIA just moves him around where they need to justify an invasion, or what not.

what do you mean if i've been following.


bottomline: no war has been declared and no laws have been passed as a result of the device found.

read this: http://www.askthepilot.com/essays-an...y-on-security/

it's all bullshit anyways - all those security checks. IF someone wanted to bring a plane down it can still be done - anytime.

and TSA is the most useless, annoying collection of imbeciles that has been put together by humans in history

excellent article. the TSA is a perfect example of the government's answer to government not working: more government.

http://www.askthepilot.com/wp-conten...SnowGlobes.jpg

No conspiracy has ever existed, they are ALL just theories. Idiots.

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