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Scootermuze 11-03-2010 06:15 PM

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Originally Posted by SpongeBub (Post 17665612)
It means two years of nothing getting passed in Congress. I predict complete gridlock, which I have to believe is what the people wanted. They wanted to stop Obama in his tracks and I suppose they will get their wish.

and if they do, it could be Obama's ticket to re-election.. Now it's the GOP that won't do anything for the next 2 years.. Well positioned for the blame game..

rebel23 11-04-2010 08:36 AM

Rand will stick to his principles

The budget must be balanced

2 trillion dollar deficit is not sustainable and Rand Paul will hold the US Senate to account and will stop the wreckless spending

rebel23 11-04-2010 08:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Scootermuze (Post 17669480)
and if they do, it could be Obama's ticket to re-election.. Now it's the GOP that won't do anything for the next 2 years.. Well positioned for the blame game..

if the economy gets worse Obama wont get elected or the GOP will take over the senate and be able to override his veto's and then things will get done but yes, 2 years of gridlock is no bad thing

rebel23 11-04-2010 08:44 AM

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Originally Posted by pocketkangaroo (Post 17665587)
He gave a good speech. He really has potential to become a major player in Washington.

Will be interesting to see if he really stands up for his statement on the debt ceiling. Still can't see him following through on that promise considering the consequences.

There is no compromise.

Balance the budget or get the fuck outta the way.

Sen. Rand Paul is coming to Washington and will read the US Senate lots of books holding everything up until he gets his way. He will have allies too in Sen. Mike Lee and Sen. Jim DeMint, which should allow him to take a break

spazlabz 11-04-2010 09:38 AM

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Originally Posted by germ (Post 17668389)
i live in kentucky too. what city?
i can hit you up on ICQ if you dont wanna go into details here.

tiny town here, population just over 2500 so yeah I keep it close to the vest, they'd burn my house down and flog me I am sure LOL

spazlabz 11-04-2010 09:41 AM

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Originally Posted by rebel23 (Post 17671139)
if the economy gets worse Obama wont get elected or the GOP will take over the senate and be able to override his veto's and then things will get done but yes, 2 years of gridlock is no bad thing

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Originally Posted by rebel23 (Post 17671175)
There is no compromise.

Balance the budget or get the fuck outta the way.

Sen. Rand Paul is coming to Washington and will read the US Senate lots of books holding everything up until he gets his way. He will have allies too in Sen. Mike Lee and Sen. Jim DeMint, which should allow him to take a break

:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh
Dem thars is knee slappers ya'll

Tam 11-04-2010 09:49 AM

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Originally Posted by spazlabz (Post 17666788)
I live in Kentucky and I like to think of myself as a redneck hick mother fucking liberal. So I did not vote for Rand Paul. Keep your generalizations to yourself please. Not all of us in this beautiful, friendly state are uninformed bible thumping, knee jerking, gun toting, flag waving AH-Mur-i-CANS

I am with you... I didn't vote FOR anyone though, I voted against this Rand Paul idiot.. he is going to make us all look like a bunch of damn fools, I am afraid.

I have lived in Kentucky for 33 years and I have to say, sometimes these people blow my mind... :upsidedow

I love the state for the most part, there are good and bad, but boy those bad ones. the bible beating gun toters REALLY scare me sometimes. lol

spazlabz 11-04-2010 09:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Tam (Post 17671464)
I am with you... I didn't vote FOR anyone though, I voted against this Rand Paul idiot.. he is going to make us all look like a bunch of damn fools, I am afraid.

I have lived in Kentucky for 33 years and I have to say, sometimes these people blow my mind... :upsidedow

I love the state for the most part, there are good and bad, but boy those bad ones. the bible beating gun toters REALLY scare me sometimes. lol

I just hit my 8 year anniversary of living here and I adore the state. The people are good, even the gun toting toothless fucks will bend over backwards to help a friend and a stranger... at least in the rural areas of the state... just dont try and talk politics or reason to them, could get ya hurt LOL

Tam 11-04-2010 09:55 AM

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Originally Posted by spazlabz (Post 17671475)
I just hit my 8 year anniversary of living here and I adore the state. The people are good, even the gun toting toothless fucks will bend over backwards to help a friend and a stranger... at least in the rural areas of the state... just dont try and talk politics or reason to them, could get ya hurt LOL

Two subjects I rarely even speak out loud here are politics and religion... found out the hard way, you can't fight that battle here.

If you've ever been to Marshall County in Kentucky, you'd really change your tune about the rural areas.. I moved out of that county because of the racism there.... MOST people are so nice and kind, sure, but like I said, the ones that are bad, they are REALLY bad!! lol

spazlabz 11-04-2010 09:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Tam (Post 17671498)
Two subjects I rarely even speak out loud here are politics and religion... found out the hard way, you can't fight that battle here.

If you've ever been to Marshall County in Kentucky, you'd really change your tune about the rural areas.. I moved out of that county because of the racism there.... MOST people are so nice and kind, sure, but like I said, the ones that are bad, they are REALLY bad!! lol

oh I hate to say this, but there is quite a bit of quiet racism here, I just dont think about it since t is not overt at all and since I am white it is never directed at me. The population here has a large majority of whites

Ethersync 11-04-2010 10:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Tam (Post 17671464)
I voted against this Rand Paul idiot..

Why is he an idiot?

IllTestYourGirls 11-04-2010 11:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Ethersync (Post 17671645)
Why is he an idiot?

Because that is what MSNBC told her.

spazlabz 11-04-2010 12:50 PM

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Originally Posted by IllTestYourGirls (Post 17671900)
Because that is what MSNBC told her.

I do not know why Tam thinks Rand Paul is an idiot, but I think he is because he appears to be an uncompromising ideologue, and anyone who is that is an idiot regardless of party affiliation

IllTestYourGirls 11-04-2010 12:57 PM

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Originally Posted by spazlabz (Post 17672157)
I do not know why Tam thinks Rand Paul is an idiot, but I think he is because he appears to be an uncompromising ideologue, and anyone who is that is an idiot regardless of party affiliation

You compromise on freedom? :Oh crap

Ethersync 11-04-2010 02:01 PM

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Originally Posted by spazlabz (Post 17672157)
I do not know why Tam thinks Rand Paul is an idiot, but I think he is because he appears to be an uncompromising ideologue, and anyone who is that is an idiot regardless of party affiliation

I suppose you think our founding fathers should have negotiated a lower tax rate with the British rather than be uncompromising and fight for independence...

germ 11-04-2010 03:04 PM

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Originally Posted by IllTestYourGirls (Post 17672228)
You compromise on freedom? :Oh crap

The Republicans did more to compromise your freedom in the last decade than the Democrats...by a WIDE margin . :2 cents:

That being said...Ron Paul isn't as bad as everyone is making him out to be. Much like his father, his heart is in the right place, he just has some extremely misguided ideas.

Ethersync 11-04-2010 03:13 PM

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Originally Posted by germ (Post 17672924)
The Republicans did more to compromise your freedom in the last decade than the Democrats...by a WIDE margin . :2 cents:

True, but Democrats have not exactly rolled back anything. A pox on both houses as far as I'm concerned.

IllTestYourGirls 11-04-2010 03:19 PM

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Originally Posted by germ (Post 17672924)
The Republicans did more to compromise your freedom in the last decade than the Democrats...by a WIDE margin . :2 cents:

That being said...Ron Paul isn't as bad as everyone is making him out to be. Much like his father, his heart is in the right place, he just has some extremely misguided ideas.

What have the democrats do to change that besides make the Patriot Act permanent? I dont know where you get the idea that I agree with what the Republicans did during the Bush years.

Ron Paul and Rand Paul are not misguided. Unless you believe freedom and liberty are misguided ideas.

germ 11-04-2010 04:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Ethersync (Post 17672971)
True, but Democrats have not exactly rolled back anything. A pox on both houses as far as I'm concerned.

Agreed.

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Originally Posted by IllTestYourGirls (Post 17672985)
What have the democrats do to change that besides make the Patriot Act permanent? I dont know where you get the idea that I agree with what the Republicans did during the Bush years.

Ron Paul and Rand Paul are not misguided. Unless you believe freedom and liberty are misguided ideas.

I got that idea mainly from how adamant you were about McCain/Palin a couple of years back. If I'm mistaken, I apologize.

I agree with a lot of what Ron Paul says. I like his ideas on focusing our effort and resources on problems at home before we try to fix problems abroad. I also think he genuinely cares about and represents the little guy.

That being said, his "smaller government" rhetoric goes a bit overboard at times. He voted against net neutrality. He puts way too much emphasis on deregulation and the idea that the "free market" will save us all. I'm not some dirty hippie that hates rich people...but we've given huge corporations a chance to do the right thing and they royally fucked it up. I think government oversight and regulation for business sectors that have the ability to drastically harm our economy, environment, or overall wellbeing isn't socialism or communism. It's just a safety mechanism.

I don't hate either one of them. I think they have good ideas on certain topics, and bad ideas on others. I'm all for personal freedom and reforming drug laws. I'm against returning to the gold standard and banning stem cell research.

spazlabz 11-04-2010 05:30 PM

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Originally Posted by IllTestYourGirls (Post 17672228)
You compromise on freedom? :Oh crap

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Originally Posted by Ethersync (Post 17672675)
I suppose you think our founding fathers should have negotiated a lower tax rate with the British rather than be uncompromising and fight for independence...

rarely have I felt that someone has asked me a truly stupid question until these

IllTestYourGirls 11-04-2010 07:31 PM

i was not for mccain or palin ever

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Originally Posted by spazlabz (Post 17673409)
rarely have I felt that someone has asked me a truly stupid question until these

You dont understand freedom. Either you have it or you dont.

germ 11-05-2010 04:23 AM

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Originally Posted by IllTestYourGirls (Post 17673691)
i was not for mccain or palin ever



You dont understand freedom. Either you have it or you dont.

You throwing around phrases like "freedom" and "liberty", and telling people that they don't understand them or asking if they're willing to compromise them are very poor ways to argue your point. No one political party has a patent on freedom or liberty. People can disagree with you completely and still love America and freedom.

If your stance on an issue is the right one, you should be able to promote it with facts and reason as opposed to bashing anyone that doesn't agree with you :2 cents:

spazlabz 11-05-2010 07:43 AM

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Originally Posted by IllTestYourGirls (Post 17673691)
i was not for mccain or palin ever



You dont understand freedom. Either you have it or you dont.

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Originally Posted by germ (Post 17674363)
You throwing around phrases like "freedom" and "liberty", and telling people that they don't understand them or asking if they're willing to compromise them are very poor ways to argue your point. No one political party has a patent on freedom or liberty. People can disagree with you completely and still love America and freedom.

If your stance on an issue is the right one, you should be able to promote it with facts and reason as opposed to bashing anyone that doesn't agree with you :2 cents:

QFT because I could not have said it better myself :thumbsup


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