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justinsain 11-07-2010 11:03 AM

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Originally Posted by DBS.US (Post 17680090)
There are two invisible rings of radiation trapped by the Earth?s magnetic field in the upper atmosphere situated about 3,000 and 15,000 kilometers above the surface. These belts of radiation are named Van Allen radiation belts after the physicist James Van Allen who had discovered them in 1958. Van Allen belts contain high-energy, charged subatomic (electrons and protons) particles emitted by solar flares and carried by solar wind. If the Earth?s magnetic field had not trapped these subatomic particles and held them in the form of thick belts or rigs away from the Earth their radiation measuring 3,00,000 electron volt would have charred all the living beings to death. The astronauts going to the Moon have to go through these belts and the journey through these belts would have been fatal for them. Conclusion: Manned Moon missions have not taken place. End of debate:thumbsup

Also man has never gone under water as there is no oxygen for them to breath and they would certainly drown. Oh wait, they covered their ass in a submarine. :upsidedow

Davy 11-07-2010 11:13 AM

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Originally Posted by DBS.US (Post 17680090)
There are two invisible rings of radiation trapped by the Earth?s magnetic field in the upper atmosphere situated about 3,000 and 15,000 kilometers above the surface. These belts of radiation are named Van Allen radiation belts after the physicist James Van Allen who had discovered them in 1958. Van Allen belts contain high-energy, charged subatomic (electrons and protons) particles emitted by solar flares and carried by solar wind. If the Earth?s magnetic field had not trapped these subatomic particles and held them in the form of thick belts or rigs away from the Earth their radiation measuring 3,00,000 electron volt would have charred all the living beings to death. The astronauts going to the Moon have to go through these belts and the journey through these belts would have been fatal for them. Conclusion: Manned Moon missions have not taken place. End of debate:thumbsup

Rrrrright. So those guys cleaning up the chernobyl reactor after its explosion are a myth, too?
PS: Some of them still live today.

The bigger problem is all the man-made crap that is floating around up there.

But I do believe that we never went to the moon.
Why would it have been possible to go there in record time when we now - 50 years later - cannot accomplish to go there?

DBS.US 11-07-2010 11:14 AM

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Originally Posted by justinsain (Post 17680102)
Also man has never gone under water as there is no oxygen for them to breath and they would certainly drown. Oh wait, they covered their ass in a submarine. :upsidedow



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_Richard_ 11-07-2010 11:21 AM

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Originally Posted by DBS.US (Post 17680090)
There are two invisible rings of radiation trapped by the Earth?s magnetic field in the upper atmosphere situated about 3,000 and 15,000 kilometers above the surface. These belts of radiation are named Van Allen radiation belts after the physicist James Van Allen who had discovered them in 1958. Van Allen belts contain high-energy, charged subatomic (electrons and protons) particles emitted by solar flares and carried by solar wind. If the Earth?s magnetic field had not trapped these subatomic particles and held them in the form of thick belts or rigs away from the Earth their radiation measuring 3,00,000 electron volt would have charred all the living beings to death. The astronauts going to the Moon have to go through these belts and the journey through these belts would have been fatal for them. Conclusion: Manned Moon missions have not taken place. End of debate:thumbsup

well..

there is a chance they american'd it up and just turned everything off to go through the thinnest part of the belt

Paul Markham 11-07-2010 11:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Gerco (Post 17679320)
Maybe this is the point. Maybe they know that we have gone to far and the earth is doomed, so we need to seed another planet for the race to survive? Mar's just being the first test shot.

The odds on Mars being able to support life are extreme. So far with all the telescopes we have there has been no places discovered that could support life. Assuming we have the technology to get there and survive the journey, no gravity is a killer. If your body adapts to it when you land you get crushed.

We have no options, the Earth is all we have. Spending trillions trying to get off it is wasting money that might be better spent saving the planet.

DBS.US 11-07-2010 11:31 AM

Moon rock' given to Holland by Neil Armstrong and Buzz Aldrin is fake
A moon rock given to the Dutch prime minister by Apollo 11 astronauts in 1969 has turned out to be a fake.

http://i.telegraph.co.uk/telegraph/m...k_1471511c.jpg

More,,,

justinsain 11-07-2010 12:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Paul Markham (Post 17680164)
The odds on Mars being able to support life are extreme. So far with all the telescopes we have there has been no places discovered that could support life. Assuming we have the technology to get there and survive the journey, no gravity is a killer. If your body adapts to it when you land you get crushed.

We have no options, the Earth is all we have. Spending trillions trying to get off it is wasting money that might be better spent saving the planet.

Watch the movie " Mission to Mars ".

It would start off something like that.

About your assessment of Mar's gravity, how do those Mars rovers that collect data and send pictures back to earth operate and stay on the ground?

dicksman42 11-07-2010 12:40 PM

I wonder how many times this has been done throughout existence.Fuck up and start over.

Agent 488 11-07-2010 12:43 PM

earth is overrated.

CaptainWolfy 11-07-2010 12:46 PM

where do i sign?!

Agent 488 11-07-2010 12:55 PM

"Man is an artifact designed for space travel. He is not designed to remain in his present biologic state any more than a tadpole is designed to remain a tadpole." - William S. Burroughs

chazzKorvex 11-07-2010 12:56 PM

How do people age on Mars? Do you age faster or slower or the same? Can you pay for your own trip back?

Maxi 11-07-2010 01:00 PM

I don't know understand how someone with a little logic can accept the suggestion that moon travel is the only technological advancement in the history of man kind that has been abandoned.

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How We'll Get Back to the Moon

Before the end of the next decade, NASA astronauts will again explore the surface of the moon. And this time, we're going to stay, building outposts and paving the way for eventual journeys to Mars and beyond. There are echoes of the iconic images of the past, but it won't be your grandfather's moon shot.

With a minimum of two lunar missions per year, momentum will build quickly toward a permanent outpost. Crews will stay longer and learn to exploit the moon's resources, while landers make one way trips to deliver cargo. Eventually, the new system could rotate crews to and from a lunar outpost every six months.
Before the end of the next decade? Thats 2020. Does this sound like something that had already been done in the 1960's?

Seriously..

Uhh yeah, we've already been to mars in the 1960's but we can't go back until after 2020. Perfect logic.

Ethersync 11-07-2010 01:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Davy (Post 17680049)
Wrong. There is an isotope thought to be in the moon that is worth more than gold. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Helium-3
They only wish they could actually go there and get it...

Correct. This is likely a large part of why there is so much renewed interest in the moon by China, Russia, India and the US.

Ethersync 11-07-2010 02:55 PM

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Originally Posted by chazzKorvex (Post 17680347)
How do people age on Mars? Do you age faster or slower or the same?

Much slower. A human can live well over 1,000 years on Mars. :upsidedow

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Originally Posted by chazzKorvex (Post 17680347)
Can you pay for your own trip back?

Absolutely.

WarChild 11-07-2010 04:33 PM

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Originally Posted by DBS.US (Post 17680090)
There are two invisible rings of radiation trapped by the Earth’s magnetic field in the upper atmosphere situated about 3,000 and 15,000 kilometers above the surface. These belts of radiation are named Van Allen radiation belts after the physicist James Van Allen who had discovered them in 1958. Van Allen belts contain high-energy, charged subatomic (electrons and protons) particles emitted by solar flares and carried by solar wind. If the Earth’s magnetic field had not trapped these subatomic particles and held them in the form of thick belts or rigs away from the Earth their radiation measuring 3,00,000 electron volt would have charred all the living beings to death. The astronauts going to the Moon have to go through these belts and the journey through these belts would have been fatal for them. Conclusion: Manned Moon missions have not taken place. End of debate:thumbsup

Unfortunately, Dr James Van Allen himself ultimately disagreed with your conclusion.

Quote:

"The recent Fox TV show, which I saw, is an ingenious and entertaining assemblage of nonsense. The claim that radiation exposure during the Apollo missions would have been fatal to the astronauts is only one example of such nonsense."

Dr. James Van Allen
Perhaps when it's renamed to the SomeStupidShlepOnGFY Radiaton Belt, you'll be considered a better souce on the subject. Until then, pipe down jackass.

bushwacker 11-07-2010 05:05 PM

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Originally Posted by WarChild (Post 17680751)
Unfortunately, Dr James Van Allen himself ultimately disagreed with your conclusion.



Perhaps when it's renamed to the SomeStupidShlepOnGFY Radiaton Belt, you'll be considered a better souce on the subject. Until then, pipe down jackass.


:thumbsup

amateurcanada 11-07-2010 10:50 PM

Bring a fleshlight lol.

bellskids 11-07-2010 11:00 PM

Expansion into space wont happen until its profitable to do so. Once the earth is bled dry of its precious elements then private corps will become interested in prospecting within the asteroid belt. Until then there will never be more than a dozen humans in space simultaneously.

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Maxi 11-07-2010 11:10 PM

It's time to face facts.

Humans will never colonize another planet.

Man has not set foot on the Moon, and probably never will, the farthest humans have been in space is the ISS which is nothing more then a huge satellite.

To be honest I wouldn't be surprised if technological advancement comes to a screeching halt within the next 50 years due to wars / lack of resources.

This is not the future of man kind.
http://thesituationist.files.wordpre...lustration.jpg

This is.
http://blastr.com/assets_c/2009/07/D...x365-21296.jpg

xholly 11-07-2010 11:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Paul Markham (Post 17679309)
The big question is why?

When I see the human race spend money on the latest war to steal limited resources from their fellow humans or designing the newest super deadly weapons system that can blow up the earth 20 times over I ask why why why? why are humans so fucked in the head and always fighting with each other?

When I see money being spent on such advances as this is gives me a small glimmer of hope. Look ahead.

Carl Sagan would apreciate this and if I could Id signup to go tomorrow.

Kiopa_Matt 11-08-2010 12:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Maxi (Post 17681179)
It's time to face facts.

Humans will never colonize another planet.

And what makes you so certain of that? Look at the technology that was available in 1910, and compare that with the technology available now in 2010. Then compare that with the technology available in 1810.

Back in 1910, main mode of transportation was horse buggy & carriage. Back then, a trip from the UK to US was a huge undertaking. Now, it's just an 8 hour pain in the ass.

There's absolutely no reason we can't colonize another planet within the next 100 - 200 years. Might have to have a decent sized war, before us idiots decide to begin working together to make it happen, but nonetheless, it's very much possible.

2MuchMark 11-08-2010 12:19 AM

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Originally Posted by DBS.US (Post 17680090)
There are two invisible rings of radiation trapped by the Earth?s magnetic field in the upper atmosphere situated about 3,000 and 15,000 kilometers above the surface. These belts of radiation are named Van Allen radiation belts after the physicist James Van Allen who had discovered them in 1958. Van Allen belts contain high-energy, charged subatomic (electrons and protons) particles emitted by solar flares and carried by solar wind. If the Earth?s magnetic field had not trapped these subatomic particles and held them in the form of thick belts or rigs away from the Earth their radiation measuring 3,00,000 electron volt would have charred all the living beings to death. The astronauts going to the Moon have to go through these belts and the journey through these belts would have been fatal for them. Conclusion: Manned Moon missions have not taken place. End of debate:thumbsup

Did you not have any science at all in elementary school? Nothing you said is correct.

2MuchMark 11-08-2010 12:22 AM

Humans will make it to other planets one day. I don't see this one-way mission to Mars as something that will ever get done, but I do see a return flight one day. This month's Popular Science has an article about a new plasma engine that can make the trip in a few months instead of 2 years.

The Moon may be ruled out for the moment but if enough reasons to go somewhere would pop up, I'm sure we (humans) would find a way. I can see man returning to the moon and flying to Mars in our lifetime. What I would really love to see is the discovery of life in our own solar system. Jupiters moons IO and Europa are the best bets. I'd love to see NASA send a probe to these moons that could land and drill through the ice and hopefully sample a gallon of water full of life. That would be one of the biggest scientific discoveries ever.

X37375787 11-08-2010 12:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Ethersync (Post 17680598)
Much slower. A human can live well over 1,000 years on Mars. :upsidedow

How does that work? Time is linear everywhere, unless there is some alternative physical properties on Mars that I don't know about.

Note, gravity does not alter space-time.

Kiopa_Matt 11-08-2010 01:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Equinox (Post 17681239)
Note, gravity does not alter space-time.

No, but it does slow down the rate of molecular breakdown. The more gravity, the faster your cells break down and stop multiplying, hence you die faster. Mars doesn't have as much gravity, so your cells will continue to multiply for much longer, hence keeping you alive longer.

Maxi 11-08-2010 01:31 AM

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Originally Posted by RDFrame (Post 17681216)
And what makes you so certain of that?

Nuclear winter?

I think you should just put your space travel dreams on hold and see how WW3 plays out first. We all know it's going to happen and when it does theres a very good chance that it'll put a stop to technological advancements and bring us back a 100 years, so you may be forced to riding a horse carriage sooner then you're able to migrate to another planet.

Kiopa_Matt 11-08-2010 01:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Maxi (Post 17681269)
Nuclear winter?

I think you should just put your space travel dreams on hold and see how WW3 plays out first. We all know it's going to happen and when it does theres a very good chance that it'll put a stop to technological advancements and bring us back a 100 years, so you may be forced to riding a horse carriage sooner then you're able to migrate to another planet.

And what makes you so certain that WWIII will happen? Every world leader knows what will happen if a nuclear war breaks out, and I don't think any of them are stupid enough to engage in it. Besides, if WWIII does happen, the war itself will be over in about 6 hours. The rest will be diplomacy. You know, "Oh look, we just killed 1.5 billion people in half a day. This isn't good, so maybe we should sit down and talk before pushing more red buttons".

Fabien 11-08-2010 02:06 AM

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Originally Posted by ********** (Post 17681228)
Humans will make it to other planets one day. I don't see this one-way mission to Mars as something that will ever get done, but I do see a return flight one day. This month's Popular Science has an article about a new plasma engine that can make the trip in a few months instead of 2 years.

The Moon may be ruled out for the moment but if enough reasons to go somewhere would pop up, I'm sure we (humans) would find a way. I can see man returning to the moon and flying to Mars in our lifetime. What I would really love to see is the discovery of life in our own solar system. Jupiters moons IO and Europa are the best bets. I'd love to see NASA send a probe to these moons that could land and drill through the ice and hopefully sample a gallon of water full of life. That would be one of the biggest scientific discoveries ever.

Yep and all religions would go down the toilets :1orglaugh
Did we ever went to the moon ? Hummmm don't know if it's a joke but we will go back for sure and if we never went there well trust me, we'll go there one day and suck up all the juice she has to offer hehehehehehe ! We will go to Mars and do the same. Will we see this ? Will i see this ? I doubt it !

Fabien 11-08-2010 02:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Maxi (Post 17681269)
Nuclear winter?

I think you should just put your space travel dreams on hold and see how WW3 plays out first. We all know it's going to happen and when it does theres a very good chance that it'll put a stop to technological advancements and bring us back a 100 years, so you may be forced to riding a horse carriage sooner then you're able to migrate to another planet.

This is way more predictable then going to Mars indeed !
Sadly, i'm 99.9% sure this will happen. I just hope i'll be in another place when it happens ...

Fabien 11-08-2010 02:11 AM

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Originally Posted by RDFrame (Post 17681273)
And what makes you so certain that WWIII will happen? Every world leader knows what will happen if a nuclear war breaks out, and I don't think any of them are stupid enough to engage in it. Besides, if WWIII does happen, the war itself will be over in about 6 hours. The rest will be diplomacy. You know, "Oh look, we just killed 1.5 billion people in half a day. This isn't good, so maybe we should sit down and talk before pushing more red buttons".

" Every world leader knows what will happen if a nuclear war breaks out, and I don't think any of them are stupid enough to engage in it."
:upsidedow:(

Do you really want some names ?
I got a few that comes to mind :pimp without thinking hard :Oh crap
Crazy fucks everywhere mate and some of them are at the top of the pyramid !

Bird 11-08-2010 02:26 AM

It's that crazy Sir Ricky Branson and Google.......................




http://www.google.com/virgle/



http://www.google.com/virgle/



http://www.google.com/virgle/

ottopottomouse 11-08-2010 04:10 AM

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Originally Posted by RDFrame (Post 17681273)
And what makes you so certain that WWIII will happen? Every world leader knows what will happen if a nuclear war breaks out, and I don't think any of them are stupid enough to engage in it. Besides, if WWIII does happen, the war itself will be over in about 6 hours. The rest will be diplomacy. You know, "Oh look, we just killed 1.5 billion people in half a day. This isn't good, so maybe we should sit down and talk before pushing more red buttons".

It will happen, only takes one mentally unstable dictator to start it and there's no shortage of them. Personally i'd much rather go from alive to cremated in half a second than be around for the aftermath.

Angry Jew Cat - Banned for Life 11-08-2010 04:22 AM

WW3 is coming, it is a ways off though. I predict it'll be the states who start it of course. The way I see it playing out is this. With time 3rd world nations will begin to develop and catch up. Look at India for example. They are positioned to make some serious moves in the next century. These countries will begin to put in a serious fight for power over resources, which at the moment is dominated by few. At the moment the US is greedily devouring everything they can and exploiting the fuck out of the 3rd world. The key to free market and capitalistic gains is expansion. There is no longer room for expansion within America, this is why they are in these other countries to begin with. Once these countries have the power to develop for themselves, or have been completely sucked in by American interests and those competing with American corporate interests (existing competition, and new competitors), you're going to start seeing much more aggressive battles take place over resources. You can bet the states will be the first ones to start stirring the shit. It's their divine right to conquer everything, right? Eventually there will be no more room for America to continue growing unless they launch an all out attack somewhere, and you can bet they will one way or another. Then it's time to take sides.

Fuck it, maybe a one world order is what we need at this point...

Ethersync 11-08-2010 04:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Equinox (Post 17681239)
How does that work? Time is linear everywhere, unless there is some alternative physical properties on Mars that I don't know about.

Note, gravity does not alter space-time.

I wasn't serious :1orglaugh

...though I think there are some accepted theories about gravity altering time, but I think it's the reverse of what I said and that less gravity means time is sped up and more means it's slowed down. Details: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gravita..._time_dilation

Paul Markham 11-08-2010 05:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Maxi (Post 17681179)
It's time to face facts.

Humans will never colonize another planet.

Man has not set foot on the Moon, and probably never will, the farthest humans have been in space is the ISS which is nothing more then a huge satellite.

To be honest I wouldn't be surprised if technological advancement comes to a screeching halt within the next 50 years due to wars / lack of resources.

This is not the future of man kind.
http://thesituationist.files.wordpre...lustration.jpg

This is.
http://blastr.com/assets_c/2009/07/D...x365-21296.jpg

Sad post but I think true. Unless we find something on Mars that robots can't exploit and makes the trip profitable this is all we have. Getting to another solar system and getting to Mars is like comparing walking next door and going around the globe in a paddle boat.

Paul Markham 11-08-2010 05:07 AM

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Originally Posted by xholly (Post 17681207)
When I see the human race spend money on the latest war to steal limited resources from their fellow humans or designing the newest super deadly weapons system that can blow up the earth 20 times over I ask why why why? why are humans so fucked in the head and always fighting with each other?

When I see money being spent on such advances as this is gives me a small glimmer of hope. Look ahead.

Carl Sagan would apreciate this and if I could Id signup to go tomorrow.

Wars are profitable. Space travel isn't, unless it's about putting satellites up for Mobile Phone and TV transmissions. :winkwink:

Zorgman 11-08-2010 05:55 AM

Did they ever think about sending remote controlled robots to Mars to setup a base then send people later on?

mekent 11-08-2010 06:10 AM

gotta love it...

Sorry, but the page you're looking for doesn't actually exist. Why? Well, because...we didn't have time to build it. Because we didn't think that particular page was all that important. Because this is just an early version of the Virgle site and lots more pages will be coming down the pike as the project --

-- oh, all right. Fine. April Fool's. Ha, ha, ha. It isn't real. There. Are you happy? Does it please you to drag us out of our lovely little fantasy world, to crush all our hopes and dreams? Is that really what you need to hear? Fine, you've heard it. Virgle isn't real.

Yet.

goodsites 11-08-2010 06:12 AM

Man, I can get away from you people? Fuck, if only my body could endure the space trip. I'd so be there... Anyone got $100,000 for some health change surgeries.. I seriously want to get way from you people. Help my dreams! <and im dead serious>


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