John I need your reply in ICQ I sent messages, my ICQ is 608486140.

I also called you to let you know about the mail I sent reminding you of the ICQ alert about the skype message and its been more than 3 minutes BUT YOU HAVEN'T REPLIED!!!!

I AM GOING TO YOUR HOUSE NOW.

I am on my ICQnow talking to john but I haven't receive anything yet as came from you.

Oh no no, I get it now... You're competing with me.

Personally, I don't care what rules you make up on the fly.

I'll give you a list of the programs doing this, I just want to see if you have the balls to do anything about it and destroy your Company over night.

Please e-mail it over.

GFY threads definitely need a priority field then we would know which ones are important as they are all urgent status

Hey, msg your #1 guy... and your best friend running it. Ha dude, your top 20 all do it. Every VOD, almost any dating company on nats.

You're doing this ONLY to try and corner the market for your inhouse work, bullshit - i'm calling your card. I've been selling this as a service for years and even had your help.

Your coders helped ME set this up on yappodollars - I did the damn work, you helped!

You've got be kidding me with this crap.

You're being paranoid. No one is trying to steal business from you. If you'd like to e-mail the list over like you mentioned I'd appreciate it.

I guess sarcasm doesn't translate into Filipino.

sarcasm? this happens to me and my team all the time. i thought it was a complete cut and paste from one of your clients

I am sorry but what did you say?

It has little to do with what I do vs. you guys do, and more to do with what you've already allowed, what I've worked with you on directly. Then you come out and say it's not allowed.

Come on, that's complete bullshit.

I would never setup a clone of nats for someone, even though I could. But masking the front to hide "nats" was one of the first 5 support tickets I ever put in with you, and to do that I had to mask things.

All I said was it needs to be licensed. Seems you woke up on the wrong side of the bed this morning or something. Again, if you could email me that list, that'd be great!

Why type it again, when you can just read it again?

I'm informed now... It explains why nats4 is locked down so much.

Sorry, I won't be emailing you - however I've already started contacting my clients and pointing them to this thread. I feel they should be fully aware that you've changed your policy "rules" without notice and that it could threaten the very income stream they rely on nats for, being that so many of them for years now have been making changes like this.

Now you've resorted to threats I see.

Policy rules haven't changed. I don't know if you even fully understand what the point here is, but your reaction to it is very telling.

Also, next time, don't offer something if you don't intend to follow through on it.

Why is it a threat? If it's always been this way, you wouldn't be threatened.

A threat would be me saying, I'm going to move them all to MPA because MPA allows this.

Again, the point has been explained.

Next time don't change your policies/rules to fit your needs in a gfy thread... and I won't have to bailout on you to save my clients asses from possible shut down.

I am in a position where, I would like to set up a white label for my NATS install but I haven't yet.

I had heard that "nats 3 could do it and nats 4 cant" when I made some general inquiries and left it at that and have been mostly handling things with only one URL pretty well, but I do find it limiting in some respects and at some point would like to be able to white label my Nats install.

I think the issue is mostly moot because

1) I don't know how in the world Nats would ever know and,

2) A second Nats license is not necessarily going to break anybody's bank, especially given that apparently they are doing so many joins that they need to split them between multiple affiliate programs and it appears the second one would not need any installation or setup since it pretty much just mirrors the first.

No one has changed any rules. Apparently your ego has grown to the point where feel you have the right to pirate copies of our software. It's been noted. I'm done discussing it with you.

Thank you for understanding. If someone wishes to run a second affiliate program, all they simply have to do is have it properly licensed.

Posting in a drama thread.

Long story short, TMM is more than willing to assist you with generating a tracking code for statistical purposes or otherwise - it's fully documented in several places.

Attempting to co-brand the site with a new name/theme has never been condoned.

OMG I have to delete this thread since this wont help my needs, anyway john Thank you.

Nobody is pirating copies if your bloated software dick head. Clearly you do not have the technical knowledge to even understand what your software can and can't do ~ that's pathetic.

Over the years I've stuck up for your shit more than anyone, and now you want to smack me in the face..

Really? Well, lucky for me, I love games and I love... to fuck with dick heads. So game on shit stain.

No one is smacking you in the face. No one is attacking you. All I see from you lately on here is you looking for confrontation & fights. You seem to be desperate to prove yourself for some reason.

At least you're showing your true colors & level of professionalism now.

Professional? You accused me of pirating your software.. You want to play games, I'm here buddy and I'm going to play.

classic thedoc :1orglaugh

Yes, real professional to accuse me of pirating NATS when I've helped you a shit ton.

Sounds like you should stop reading political threads, because I post in a ton of help/info threads and zero arguments happen.

What do I need to prove John? That you don't actually understand the technical talk related to your software in this thread, thus you think someone is pirating your software when no mater how many ways you twist it, that isn't happening?

I posted two them in this thread, idiot... no go pretend like you have a clue some place else.

wow, the love kettle got to boiling point in this thread!

I know of 2 programs that use the nats db to present stats elsewhere. I even have tickets downloaded somewhere where I was helped out by Boris to do it.... do I get some candy too?

This has nothing to do with technical talk. This has to do with licensing.

NATS is licensed on a per affiliate program basis. Say, xyzcash.com. You seem to believe you somehow have the right to help someone set it up to circumvent that licensing in order to run that same copy/license on abccash.com as a different affiliate program brand. That is against our licensing and is a type of pirating a software.

I've gone back against my saying I'm not arguing with you about it here in the hopes that maybe one last explanation will finally get the point through to you, but that's the last time.

Exactly!...

Do you see someplace in this thread where someone said circumvent the nats lic in order to run a copy of anything on a different place? No... That isn't what is being discussed.

But you are saying if it's on one domain, it's still not allowed.

YappoDollars had three different logins, all on yappodollars.com. One for WM, one for studios and one for moviecards. All showed different colors, templates, linking codes, stats, etc.

With what you are saying, this isn't allowed.

You really don't get it, and your desire to turn everything into a piss fest has permanently burned a bridge as a result. I'm sure you'll go on about how you don't care, but we'll see how that plays out over time.

And that was worked out with you guys on an individual basis at that time. It's also different from what the point of this thread is.

I think you need to talk to your husband and get him to walk away from the computer and cool off a bit. His ego is doing nothing but damage to him at this point.

look, when he's wrong and made to look stupid he even sputters as he types. :1orglaugh

John, you've burned more bridges than a person could count, with a history that goes along with it. So honestly, let the bridge burn, burn it to the ground - it makes no difference.

I'm not looking for a fight, I'm looking to protect my clients.

Just remember, I never came to you for clients but you've come to me before to save your ass and keep the client from jumping ship. As a mater of fact, what have you ever done for me?

I should make you pay me for saving your ass all these years. That's ego btw.

Overall your posts are weak and stupid... either shut the fuck up or try harder, seriously before your lameness rubs off on the entire forum. :1orglaugh

I was going to toss you a knife to cut off your nose in this thread but you're already using an ax.
proving that your scary genius carries over to your business dealings as well. :1orglaugh

Thats true, the 1 advocate nats had was thedoc, ive noticed, and he would defend nats above all else.

Maybe they will appreciate you more over at mpa3.

The bottom line here is this:

When you are going to use data is not allowed because you need to purchased new lic. And it cost money monthly.

When you create something in your lic or your product with their codes it needs to purchased new lic per domain or whatsoever.

And the result is just this. He want more money so everything is MONEY. It's not being pirate your product it's just like this, logging in in different domain is not illegal its useful because it will spread out that your product can done like this and everyone will purchased your product as well.

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Oh more stupid from you, as expected.. Anyway, I best stop before all the affiliates / companies you do business with actually show up to defend you. :1orglaugh :1orglaugh :1orglaugh

Thanks for noticing...

True, and I'm pretty sure Oystein wouldn't call me a thief either.

why would your betters come to my defense?

again, you imagine you're more than you are. :1orglaugh

I just love how "affiliate" can refer to the person running the program or the webmaster as well. lol

no one called you a thief.

guilty conscience most likely.:warning

Man, you post stupid shit... My betters wouldn't come to your defense, that was the point - you're a nobody, hellllloo...

You imagined the post I made to come up with a stupid comment like that....


Yawn... :321GFY