I'm not going to argue with you about the rules regarding our products. I've explained the issue and our rules regarding it here.

If you're displaying the stats for the purpose of it being another affiliate program, then yes. If you've made some custom admin reports that you happen to have on another domain, then no.

Another affiliate program is exactly that, another affiliate program.

If you have a specific example you're concerned about, you're more than welcome to contact me about it.

People stop having argument I am asking for help not argument please. If you can suggest better that would be fine. If not stay away from this thread it make no sense visiting this thread without opinion.

Why don't you contact me so we can help you setup exactly what you need properly?

Well what I ask is only a data not an admin reports its only sub account or log in to another domain to check summary of their own sales. I am trying to hide my Affiliate Program due to brokers and pretending they are part of it. Hopefully you understand that.

Yes, I do, and we have a solution for it. Please contact me so we can discuss the options for building what you need.

edit: my question was answered.

How do you define an "affiliate program"? Same sites, same terms, etc, but just different design on a different domain is considered a different affiliate program?
so if you run xyzcash.com and wanted to setup xyzcash-ru.com (for Russian webmasters) by just "mounting" xyzcash-ru.com to xyzcsah.com and using some smarty magic to pull different templates on xyzcash-ru.com, that's not allowed?

It's a lot more complex than that. You can't always answer a simplified version of an issue.

If customadminreportsthatjohnsaidwasok.com is accepting affiliate signups or logins to check stats and is considered the affiliate program by those who are using that site/url/brand/etc. to promote it, then no, that is not okay as it is another affiliate program and it would have to also be licensed.

We can't have a situation where someone wants to run 20 different affiliate programs so they license one copy of NATS and use it to run all 20 of the affiliate programs they want to run. I know that is not the specific case here, but it's an example of why we license NATS on a per affiliate program basis.

Again, there are other factors. Is xyzcash-ru.com being marketed as another affiliate program to Russians? Is it their point of login, getting stats, using the affiliate program, etc.? If so, then yes, that is another affiliate program and would need licensing also.

John I need your reply in ICQ I sent messages, my ICQ is 608486140.

I also called you to let you know about the mail I sent reminding you of the ICQ alert about the skype message and its been more than 3 minutes BUT YOU HAVEN'T REPLIED!!!!

I AM GOING TO YOUR HOUSE NOW.

I am on my ICQnow talking to john but I haven't receive anything yet as came from you.

Oh no no, I get it now... You're competing with me.

Personally, I don't care what rules you make up on the fly.

I'll give you a list of the programs doing this, I just want to see if you have the balls to do anything about it and destroy your Company over night.

Please e-mail it over.

GFY threads definitely need a priority field then we would know which ones are important as they are all urgent status

Hey, msg your #1 guy... and your best friend running it. Ha dude, your top 20 all do it. Every VOD, almost any dating company on nats.

You're doing this ONLY to try and corner the market for your inhouse work, bullshit - i'm calling your card. I've been selling this as a service for years and even had your help.

Your coders helped ME set this up on yappodollars - I did the damn work, you helped!

You've got be kidding me with this crap.

You're being paranoid. No one is trying to steal business from you. If you'd like to e-mail the list over like you mentioned I'd appreciate it.

I guess sarcasm doesn't translate into Filipino.

sarcasm? this happens to me and my team all the time. i thought it was a complete cut and paste from one of your clients

I am sorry but what did you say?

It has little to do with what I do vs. you guys do, and more to do with what you've already allowed, what I've worked with you on directly. Then you come out and say it's not allowed.

Come on, that's complete bullshit.

I would never setup a clone of nats for someone, even though I could. But masking the front to hide "nats" was one of the first 5 support tickets I ever put in with you, and to do that I had to mask things.

All I said was it needs to be licensed. Seems you woke up on the wrong side of the bed this morning or something. Again, if you could email me that list, that'd be great!

Why type it again, when you can just read it again?

I'm informed now... It explains why nats4 is locked down so much.

Sorry, I won't be emailing you - however I've already started contacting my clients and pointing them to this thread. I feel they should be fully aware that you've changed your policy "rules" without notice and that it could threaten the very income stream they rely on nats for, being that so many of them for years now have been making changes like this.

Now you've resorted to threats I see.

Policy rules haven't changed. I don't know if you even fully understand what the point here is, but your reaction to it is very telling.

Also, next time, don't offer something if you don't intend to follow through on it.

Why is it a threat? If it's always been this way, you wouldn't be threatened.

A threat would be me saying, I'm going to move them all to MPA because MPA allows this.

Again, the point has been explained.

Next time don't change your policies/rules to fit your needs in a gfy thread... and I won't have to bailout on you to save my clients asses from possible shut down.

I am in a position where, I would like to set up a white label for my NATS install but I haven't yet.

I had heard that "nats 3 could do it and nats 4 cant" when I made some general inquiries and left it at that and have been mostly handling things with only one URL pretty well, but I do find it limiting in some respects and at some point would like to be able to white label my Nats install.

I think the issue is mostly moot because

1) I don't know how in the world Nats would ever know and,

2) A second Nats license is not necessarily going to break anybody's bank, especially given that apparently they are doing so many joins that they need to split them between multiple affiliate programs and it appears the second one would not need any installation or setup since it pretty much just mirrors the first.

No one has changed any rules. Apparently your ego has grown to the point where feel you have the right to pirate copies of our software. It's been noted. I'm done discussing it with you.

Thank you for understanding. If someone wishes to run a second affiliate program, all they simply have to do is have it properly licensed.

Posting in a drama thread.

Long story short, TMM is more than willing to assist you with generating a tracking code for statistical purposes or otherwise - it's fully documented in several places.

Attempting to co-brand the site with a new name/theme has never been condoned.

OMG I have to delete this thread since this wont help my needs, anyway john Thank you.

Nobody is pirating copies if your bloated software dick head. Clearly you do not have the technical knowledge to even understand what your software can and can't do ~ that's pathetic.

Over the years I've stuck up for your shit more than anyone, and now you want to smack me in the face..

Really? Well, lucky for me, I love games and I love... to fuck with dick heads. So game on shit stain.

No one is smacking you in the face. No one is attacking you. All I see from you lately on here is you looking for confrontation & fights. You seem to be desperate to prove yourself for some reason.

At least you're showing your true colors & level of professionalism now.

Professional? You accused me of pirating your software.. You want to play games, I'm here buddy and I'm going to play.

classic thedoc :1orglaugh

Yes, real professional to accuse me of pirating NATS when I've helped you a shit ton.

Sounds like you should stop reading political threads, because I post in a ton of help/info threads and zero arguments happen.

What do I need to prove John? That you don't actually understand the technical talk related to your software in this thread, thus you think someone is pirating your software when no mater how many ways you twist it, that isn't happening?

I posted two them in this thread, idiot... no go pretend like you have a clue some place else.