Watching it later tonight, I like the show so far!

to dull to go through the handcuffs, which would have been a no brainer for hardened steel designed not to be cut

the rust metal pipe/bolt on the other hand?

would have been like cutting through butter.

I'm really enjoying the series, however some of the acting sucks. The lead character (the cop) is great, but the 'Asian kid', the 'Redneck's Brother' and now the 'Vatos' all suck and way to stereotypical. Wish they would tone it down a little in that department.

i dunno, i like the asian dude.

well, it is still a zombie flick... :1orglaugh

lol, I get what you're saying but I like this series (especially the pilot episode) because it wasn't so "stereotypically" cheezy. It had great acting and the potential for DEEP character development. I just kind of feel they are getting away from that.

It's mentioned that the mexican gang-bangers went to check on their folks, and for most latins family is very important. This is shown quite clearly when the old lady, who is the grandmother ("abuela") of one or more of the gang-bangers interrupts the stand off and they back off.

As for those who think there isn't enough action, hah! In the comics there's whole arcs where there are no zombies whatsoever because the story is about how the survivors cope. If you want to simply watch zombies getting fucked up play "Left 4 Dead".

yeah I know, I just thought it wasn't quite explaind enough. They acted too much like gangbangers to just be regular guys banding together to protect their grandparents. A guy who was just a janitor seems pretty competent at being the head honcho for the gang. And the wanna-be kid has the pot leaf tattoo? Come on... the writing is just lazy and stereotypical. What wouldn't be stereotypical is if one of the women grabbed some balls and went back to look for Merle with the men. Or if that Jim guys turns out to be somewhat psychic with that dream he had and starts to lead the group in a religious sense. That'd be interesting. (haven't read the books so can't say if this is going to happen or not).

They WERE gangbangers who went to protect their old folks. Just because you're in a gang doesn't mean you don't give a shit about your nana getting eaten by zombies :winkwink:

I disagree. For example, you're saying that the gang bangers shouldn't give a shit about their old folks. When the old lady sees the cop she immediately jumps in to defend her grandson saying "don't take him away, he's a good boy he just got into trouble he's okay now", which shows in an understated way WHY a gang banger would stay in the middle of a zombie apocalypse to defend her.

Myself, I prefer subtle things like that than being hit over the head about a character's motivation.

I agree, the grandmother stepping in like that was a nice touch. But so far most of the other plot lines are pretty standard Hollywood action movie fare:
racist hicks pissing people off, then needing help and/or being useful
asian kid providing the smarts/planning
cop trying to save the world/do the right thing
old guy being wise and steady/offering philosophical commentary
wifebeating guy getting put in his place

I do like that one of the sisters died. Now maybe the older sister will be free to pick up a gun and kick some ass instead of just fishing.

Why has noone thought about shelter for the fall/winter? They seem happy to be camping? What's with that?

She will. Oh man will she ever.

They were staying close to the city so they could go raid it for supplies and they were relatively safe. As you can see that changed, and winter will play a big part in the following events, although I believe that will be in the next season.

while action wise, this show is still good, it's starting to feel like a madlib.
everything is the easiest possible formula for story-writing.

i was really hoping for something new here.

i might not make it past this season and i am a zombie FANATIC.

but im more of a fanatic for good writing and non formulaic character development.

This show is great, I like it.

I don't know if it'll happen in the TV show, but in the books, they find a prison to take refuge in.

Well that is just excellent, then. I will keep watching. :)

I'm warming up to this. I love the whole "everyone in the world is dead but us" just like in "The Stand".

However camping out in the middle of the woods with no defenses is pretty dumb. It's only a matter of time before something happened. I'm not saying that camping out in the middle of the city is a good idea either, but your gonna need a building for defenses sooner or later.