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stocktrader23 11-25-2010 07:44 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by gideongallery (Post 17728704)
your mixing felony copyright infringement which is the criminal statutes and the civil liablities.

you might want to get a better lawyer, none of these lawsuits are criminal procecution, that section was designed for the guys making and selling counterfeit copies of dvd on the street corner.
Sir, for starters I don't need a lawyer for anything to do with copyright infringement.

That out of the way, I specifically quoted the part that is for noncommercial infringement. I did not want to paste a wall of text here but will do so now.

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The most recent amendment to criminal copyright infringement was the No Electronic Theft Act of 1997 (NetAct) which made it a felony to reproduce or distribute copies of copyrighted works electronically regardless of whether the defendant had a profit motive. Thus, it changed the 100-year standard regarding profit motive but retained the element of willfulness. The ease of infringement on the Internet was the primary reason for criminalizing noncommercial infringement as well as recognition of other motivations a nonprofit defendant might have such as anti-copyright or anti-corporate sentiment, trying to make a name in the Internet world and wanting to be a cyber renegade. So, the infringement must be either: (1) for purposes of commercial advantage or private financial gain or (2) involve the reproduction or distribution of one or more copies of a work or works within a 180-day period with a total retail value of $1,000. Commercial infringers are subject to higher penalties, however. A commercially motivated infringer can receive up to a five-year federal prison term and $250,000 in fines; a noncommercial willful infringer is subject to up to a one-year prison term and $100,000 in fines. The prison term maximum for repeat infringers is up to 10 years for commercially motivated ones and up to six years for noncommercial infringers.

Copyright infringers may be sued both civilly and prosecuted criminally for the same infringing act. In cases where the alleged infringer has few assets that a copyright owner might recover in a civil suit, the owner may seek to have the government prosecute the infringer as a criminal. In addition to the different remedies and penalties, there are other differences between civil and criminal copyright suits, although the underlying infringing activity may be the same. For example, the civil statute of limitations is three years; it is five years for a criminal prosecution. The burden of proof for copyright infringement in a civil suit is ?preponderance of the evidence? while it is ?beyond a reasonable doubt? for criminal copyright infringement. For civil remedies, it is the copyright owner who brings suits; for criminal penalties it is the federal prosecutor who litigates the case.

RycEric 11-25-2010 08:27 PM
All the IP lawyers in this thread :1orglaugh

Barry-xlovecam 11-25-2010 10:53 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by gideongallery (Post 17728321)
read the case moron
1. she lost
2. see 1

Barry-xlovecam 11-25-2010 11:11 PM
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Criminal Copyright Infringement—17 U.S.C. § 506(a) and 18 U.S.C. § 2319

The principal criminal statute protecting copyrighted works is 17 U.S.C. § 506(a), which provides that "[a]ny person who infringes a copyright willfully and for purposes of commercial advantage or private financial gain" shall be punished as provided in 18 U.S.C. § 2319. Section 2319 provides, in pertinent part, that a 5-year felony shall apply if the offense "consists of the reproduction or distribution, during any 180-day period, of at least 10 copies or phonorecords, of 1 or more copyrighted works, with a retail value of more than $2,500." 18 U.S.C. § 2319(b)(1).
*"distribution" would include any website offering infringing content for download. Of course, this is US law and the government would have to be motivated to indict. I can think of political reasons to or not to indict and prosecute.

gideongallery 11-26-2010 12:19 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Barry-xlovecam (Post 17728926)
1. she lost
2. see 1
your using that case to argue that ip address is enough to identify the person as the infringer.

from a case where they clearly did a lot more than use her ip address to identifier

that like saying we should convict people on charges on murder if they own blue cars because cops were able to catch a murder who drove a blue car after doing all the investigation to successfully prove he commited the crime.

from the transcript your ignoring.

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Q. Based on all of the data that you saw, Dr. Jacobson, do
you have an opinion as to whether a wireless router was
being used in this case?
A. There was no wireless router used in this case.
Q. And that's based on all the reasons you described?
A. Yes.
Q. There is no private IP address, is there?
A. Correct.
Q. So -- and you were sitting in the courtroom for much of
the afternoon?
A. Yes.
Q. So there was no one outside the window who was, you
know, accessing a computer in Ms. Thomas's house through a
wireless router; is that right?
there is 23 pages of testimony going over how the ip address was assigned to a computer connected directly to the modem.

someone would have had to break in to the house and login as jamie and do the downloading for it to be someone else doing it.

like i said if this was intended to get her off they would have dropped that arguement and gone instead to the fair use arguements.

this is about knocking down legal precedents and keeping the appeals processes alive.

nothing within this case justifies the arguement that identifying the ip address is enough to find/accuse them of being guilty.

it a catch 22 but you need to violate/have someone give up their privacy rights to be able to get the proof.

gideongallery 11-26-2010 12:33 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by gideongallery (Post 17728994)
your using that case to argue that ip address is enough to identify the person as the infringer.

from a case where they clearly did a lot more than use her ip address to identifier

that like saying we should convict people on charges on murder if they own blue cars because cops were able to catch a murder who drove a blue car after doing all the investigation to successfully prove he commited the crime.

from the transcript your ignoring.



there is 23 pages of testimony going over how the ip address was assigned to a computer connected directly to the modem.

someone would have had to break in to the house and login as jamie and do the downloading for it to be someone else doing it.

like i said if this was intended to get her off they would have dropped that arguement and gone instead to the fair use arguements.

this is about knocking down legal precedents and keeping the appeals processes alive.

nothing within this case justifies the arguement that identifying the ip address is enough to find/accuse them of being guilty.

it a catch 22 but you need to violate/have someone give up their privacy rights to be able to get the proof.
as borked pointed out

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Yes, but that is just used to corroborate something when applied with more pertinent evidence. 1+2+3+4+5=15, not 5=15

5=15 is the entire case in all these letters...
which is the point i am making your using a case where they did all the ungodly amount of research, had a women self violate her privacy rights by handing over the computer to be analysed.

it no where close to pay up because we got your ip address blackmail letter being sent out by the lawyers.

Dirty Dane 11-26-2010 12:35 AM
I thought the users were sued. Not their IP.

will76 11-26-2010 12:39 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by RycEric (Post 17728761)
All the IP lawyers in this thread :1orglaugh
gideon and stockbroker should go start their own firm. :2 cents:

DamianJ 11-26-2010 03:23 AM
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Originally Posted by Rochard (Post 17727798)
Your
http://www.chicagonow.com/blogs/leag...x430-25721.jpg

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Originally Posted by Rochard (Post 17727798)
the biggest fucking idiot on this board.
Excellent start to presenting your, I am sure, brilliantly thought out reply. Let's see how you justify your approval of this quasi-blackmail...

(Btw, when calling someone a fucking idiot, make sure you don't make really elementary grammar mistakes. You're/your isn't hard.)

Quote:
Originally Posted by Rochard (Post 17727798)
Of course you can sue based on IP address. An IP is clearly proof - it says "someone from this location at this date at this time hit this server and illegally downloaded this content".
It sounds like you actually believe that, which is sweet.

Rochard here are four reasons you are horribly, painfully wrong:

1) spoofing IP addresses
2) open wifi
3) relatives/friends coming over and borrowing your wifi
4) landlord including cable as part of house rental to 6 students

Most important thing, however, is that not a single case has ever gone to court. And they never will. Lightspeed and ACS Law both boast that going to court isn't the endgame. That cash is.

This is NOTHING to do with stopping copyright infringement, it is about making money.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Rochard (Post 17727798)
No different than an IP address. You can be sued for it, and then it's up to you pay the fine or prove them wrong in court.
But Rochard, you brainiac you, why has a SINGLE case never ever gone to court? I will tell you. The people that challenge the quasi-blackmail letters never get taken to court! All they do is write a letter back saying FUCK YOU SUE ME. And that is the end of it.

This has been going on for YEARS in the UK. Not a single case in court. Ever. Been going on for some time in the US, a very letigious country, and not a single court case.

Just have a THINK before you post.


Quote:
Originally Posted by Rochard (Post 17727798)
My god, the fucking entry level in this industry is set very low.
Yeah some people actually throw their toys out of the pram and say they will never ever post on a forum again and then come back pretending to forget they ever said that. Can you imagine!

DamianJ 11-26-2010 03:30 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Paul Markham (Post 17727966)
I think suing pirates is great because it teaches them the consequences of their actions.
That isn't what we are talking about. We are talking about suing IP addresses. If you could sue pirates with proof I would be right with you. But you can't. And it doesn't teach them a lesson, because no case has gone to court.

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Originally Posted by Paul Markham (Post 17727966)
How do people book you for magic via a page that doesn't work? I wish I had found that link earlier and done a screen grab.
Because damianjennings.com isn't my magic booking site, love. Another mystery solved.

PLEASE explain why you think me getting paid to do magic will embarrass me. Please. I am just so darn curious about what you think is shameful about it?

ottopottomouse 11-26-2010 04:12 AM
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Originally Posted by Tjeezers (Post 17728384)
lot of people post in threads like this to boost their own ego`s, acting like the Godfathers of porn. Yet, non of them I read have actually impressed me with something I dont know, or they never did anything that really amazed me. Of course, when people post here to boost their ego, they dont give a shit what others think, they like to think about what they said when reading it back. Sad sad sad... Wake up people, no one gives a shit what you think or achieved.

NO one cares about what you fight against, if you where almost RIP or not,, no one needs to know you can get Jumbo Loans cause your so fucking good, no one cares about your fucking coin collection that was lost for so many years.

I am here cause i need to wait for uploading, and hope to read one day something that would change my fucking day. Until now i am inspired to learn how to smoke crack and how to avoid law suites... Shame on u all ya bitches and happy thanks giving btw
Careful. Someone will put you on ignore and flounce off to boast elsewhere :upsidedow

Paul Markham 11-26-2010 04:59 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by DamianJ (Post 17729149)
That isn't what we are talking about. We are talking about suing IP addresses. If you could sue pirates with proof I would be right with you. But you can't. And it doesn't teach them a lesson, because no case has gone to court.
Bit early for cases to go to court. But cases of copyright infringement for music have gone to court and the results are in the thread. The accused is welcome to choose the court route anytime they wish.


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Because damianjennings.com isn't my magic booking site, love. Another mystery solved.

PLEASE explain why you think me getting paid to do magic will embarrass me. Please. I am just so darn curious about what you think is shameful about it?
So why does the domain appear in the advert? Time to update the advert.

I never said doing magic for money should embarrass you. You're saying that. I just showed everyone the advert and the site that doesn't work.

Of course the http://www.pornbeer.com site works and shows so much about you. :1orglaugh

Such an elegant, entertaining, magical and not cheesy guy. :1orglaugh

stocktrader23 11-26-2010 05:06 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by paul markham (Post 17729301)
bit early for cases to go to court. But cases of copyright infringement for music have gone to court and the results are in the thread. The accused is welcome to choose the court route anytime they wish.
Seriously folks, for the love of fucking christ. Cases of making files available to others have gone to court. Show me one case of someone downloading only that has gone to court. I'm not saying it hasn't happened for fact but I've never seen it and i seriously doubt it has happened due to the 47 reasons posted here by multiple people.

DamianJ 11-26-2010 05:16 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Paul Markham (Post 17729301)
Bit early for cases to go to court. But cases of copyright infringement for music have gone to court and the results are in the thread. The accused is welcome to choose the court route anytime they wish.
Jesus Christ Paul. That is for UPLOADING.

I know you are old. But surely you can see the difference between uploading and downloading?

There isn't one case that Davenport Lyons or ACS brought that has gone to court in 5 years. Isn't that enough time?

The lawyers are now facing a hearing which will probably lead to them being disbarred. That is the point.

Your opinion on the matter is moot. The people that decide whether lawyers can practise law think it is bad. That, Sir, is the point here.

http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/n...-lawyering.ars

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Originally Posted by Paul Markham (Post 17729301)
So why does the domain appear in the advert? Time to update the advert.
Because it is a free listing on a directory, not a paid advert. No need to update it as it didn't give me any traffic. I didn't even know it was still there. I don't spend much time stalking myself.

I have another site I get my magic bookings from. As I keep telling you. Although your quasi-concern is lovely.

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Originally Posted by Paul Markham (Post 17729301)
I never said doing magic for money should embarrass you.
Why do you keep posting about it then?

Quote:
Originally Posted by Paul Markham (Post 17729301)
Of course the http://www.pornbeer.com site works and shows so much about you. :1orglaugh

Such an elegant, entertaining, magical and not cheesy guy. :1orglaugh
Thanks! You're a sweety!

You bump constantly bump my threads and give me more external links. Cheers gramps!

PS Up for the challenge about landing pages I keep posting and you keep pretending not to read like a massive coward?

Paul Markham 11-26-2010 06:14 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by DamianJ (Post 17729331)
I have another site I get my magic bookings from. As I keep telling you. Although your quasi-concern is lovely.
So post it here, or not up to the challenge?

I told you about the landing page idea. I'm waiting for you to show us the site that has a forum that doesn't have images until a surfer gives an email address. A fake forum of course that encourages the surfer to post and is initially trying to get the surfer to sign ups to a site.

Did I explain it right?

DamianJ 11-26-2010 07:00 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Paul Markham (Post 17729427)
So post it here, or not up to the challenge?
What challenge? Sorry your stalking skills are so bad you can't find it yourself.


Quote:
Originally Posted by Paul Markham (Post 17729427)
I told you about the landing page idea.
No Paul, not that idea. We've all moved on from that. You think I am bad at landing pages, let's have a challenge. (This is the fourth time I've posted this here I think). We both make a landing page for a site using the same content. We split test it using google site optimiser. The person who makes the worst converting lander has to pay a grand to charity of choice of the winner.

Up for it? Or will you pretend not to see this. Again.

Anyway, back to the thread.

Please explain why you think suing IP addresses without having proof a crime happened is good.

Go on. I double dare you.

Rochard 11-26-2010 08:56 AM
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Originally Posted by stocktrader23 (Post 17728470)
By the way Rochard, yes you can sue anyone you want in the USA. Want to know what you can't do though? Sue EVERYONE with just an IP address and shit for proof and get away with it for long. If you don't think they will clamp down on spamming lawsuit threats you are crazy. Also, the comments Steve has made here are enough to get him and his lawyer in a world of hurt. I'm still in schock that he had the balls to post details of his blame and shame campaign here, I assure you that a judge would not be pleased with it.

http://ask.metafilter.com/79838/Has-...nloading-music
Seems to me like they are doing it - over thirty thousand times. Using an IP address they can establish guilt (or the assumption of guilt) and sue everyone they "believe" who illegally downloaded content. Out of thirty thousand cases, only two failed to settle out of court.

Your thinking "all they had was an IP address". The truth is that they sued the file sharing services and got IP addresses plus matching account info. Chances are they can match up an IP to the name, address, and email account of the end user.

Agent 488 11-26-2010 09:01 AM
Rochard used to be lighspeed's bitch keep that in mind. explains a lot. must still have to use him as a reference.

Slutboat 11-26-2010 09:03 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by SteveLightspeed (Post 17726078)
DamianJ, why do you always sound like such a bitter cunt?

Exactly - maybe the dude is afraid of the mail he may be getting from you?

Rochard 11-26-2010 09:04 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by DamianJ (Post 17729145)
It sounds like you actually believe that, which is sweet.

Rochard here are four reasons you are horribly, painfully wrong:

1) spoofing IP addresses
2) open wifi
3) relatives/friends coming over and borrowing your wifi
4) landlord including cable as part of house rental to 6 students
Your missing the point here. Your thinking they only have an IP address. They have so much more than that. They have an account at a file sharing service, they have their name, their address, their email address, and whatever other information required to get an account at one of the file sharing services. The IP address isn't the only thing they have, but instead the final nail in the coffin.

Paul Markham 11-26-2010 09:46 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by DamianJ (Post 17729540)
What challenge? Sorry your stalking skills are so bad you can't find it yourself.
Or maybe it doesn't exist. I'm sure no one here thinks that. :1orglaugh

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No Paul, not that idea. We've all moved on from that. You think I am bad at landing pages, let's have a challenge. (This is the fourth time I've posted this here I think). We both make a landing page for a site using the same content. We split test it using google site optimiser. The person who makes the worst converting lander has to pay a grand to charity of choice of the winner.

Up for it? Or will you pretend not to see this. Again.
I have no idea how to make a landing page, not a designer and never pretended to be one. I just know enough about marketing to recognise a shit idea in marketing.

Quote:
Please explain why you think suing IP addresses without having proof a crime happened is good.

Go on. I double dare you.
Where did I say it was good to sue an IP address?

Go find it I double dare you. Not sure you can sue an IP address. Is it possible?

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Originally Posted by Slutboat
Exactly - maybe the dude is afraid of the mail he may be getting from you?
Probably spot on. But I doubt if many here can put up their hands and say they have never downloaded something that wasn't pirated. And don't fear getting a letter. Damian knows lots about how to hide an IP address.

Agent 488 11-26-2010 09:50 AM
pual why do you always bully damien on the internets? serious question.

DamianJ 11-26-2010 10:09 AM
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Originally Posted by Slutboat (Post 17729740)
Exactly - maybe the dude is afraid of the mail he may be getting from you?
Are you bipolar? Serious question.

One day you start a thread calling me a pirate.
The next day you start a thread apologising for calling me a pirate. (and everyone lolled at you)
And now you post in a thread insinuating I am a pirate again.

Fucking funny stuff.

Love you

xoxo

Agent 488 11-26-2010 10:11 AM
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Originally Posted by Agent 488 (Post 17729850)
pual why do you always bully damien on the internets? serious question.
i mean paul. i think reading dvtime's posts has made me dyslexic.

will76 11-26-2010 10:12 AM
Damian should go work for Piratebay's PR department.

DamianJ 11-26-2010 10:13 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Rochard (Post 17729742)
Your missing the point here.
*You're

Quote:
Originally Posted by Rochard (Post 17729742)
Your thinking they only have an IP address.
*You're


Quote:
Originally Posted by Rochard (Post 17729742)
They have so much more than that. They have an account at a file sharing service, they have their name, their address, their email address, and whatever other information required to get an account at one of the file sharing services. The IP address isn't the only thing they have, but instead the final nail in the coffin.
Who is THEY Rochard, my love?

This thread is about ACS: Law's lawyers facing a hearing for sending out letters to IP address owners for torrenting files. They certainly had no proof aside from a IP address. That is what I take issue with. As it isn't proof.

Thanks for playing though. You're sweet.

DamianJ 11-26-2010 10:19 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Paul Markham (Post 17729842)
Or maybe it doesn't exist. I'm sure no one here thinks that. :1orglaugh

That's right Paul! It doesn't exist! You've rumbled me!

Quote:
Originally Posted by Paul Markham (Post 17729842)
I have no idea how to make a landing page, not a designer and never pretended to be one. I just know enough about marketing to recognise a shit idea in marketing.
Right, I just assumed as you post so much about how to market a site you would be up for the challenge. I will lend you a designer. You just come up with the idea. How does that sound?

Or are you still too scared?

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Originally Posted by Paul Markham (Post 17729842)
Where did I say it was good to sue an IP address?
Oh gosh. YOu are teh funny today Paulie!

Really amusing stuff. Thanks for the bumps!

So you think it is BAD to sue an IP address?

You u-turn more than slutboat. People made more money before the internet. People made more money after the internet. Sending letters is good. Sending letters is bad. Is it your meds or were you always like this?

Brilliant fun today, gramps.

Paul Markham 11-26-2010 10:20 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Agent 488 (Post 17729850)
pual why do you always bully damien on the internets? serious question.
Because he started the slagging match and I can give as good as I get. He's now the grammar policeman on GFY. :1orglaugh

:1orglaugh :1orglaugh

DamianJ 11-26-2010 10:22 AM
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Originally Posted by will76 (Post 17729910)
Damian should go work for Piratebay's PR department.
Yes, because running PR for the world's largest torrent site is just like pointing out that suing IP addresses is abhorrent.

Come to Vegas, I am bringing buttons with DAMIAN IS AN COCKSUCKER on. You, slutboat, Rochard and Old Man Markham can each have one. It will be SUPER AWESOME!!!!111oneoneone

DamianJ 11-26-2010 10:28 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Paul Markham (Post 17729927)
I can give as good as I get
No you can't.

You post saying I live in a rented hovel.
You post saying I am a magician.

And I don't care about either of those things.

That's it.

That really isn't anywhere near as good as you get.

Not even the same ballpark.

But it's sweet you try. Keeps you off the streets.

xoxox

Agent 488 11-26-2010 10:29 AM
off the streets and injecting himself in public.

stocktrader23 11-26-2010 10:58 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Rochard (Post 17729716)
Seems to me like they are doing it - over thirty thousand times. Using an IP address they can establish guilt (or the assumption of guilt) and sue everyone they "believe" who illegally downloaded content. Out of thirty thousand cases, only two failed to settle out of court.

Your thinking "all they had was an IP address". The truth is that they sued the file sharing services and got IP addresses plus matching account info. Chances are they can match up an IP to the name, address, and email account of the end user.
Where is the info on this sued 30k people and 29,998 of them settled out of court. More like 2 forced them to court? And again, SHARING, SHARING, SHARING!

u-Bob 11-26-2010 11:08 AM
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Originally Posted by Redrob (Post 17726615)
We shouldn't go after the end users. We have enough PR problems without alienating our customers.
true .

DamianJ 11-26-2010 11:10 AM
Whilst you read about silly people thinking sending out quasi-blackmail letters is a good idea, why not pop up a couple of galleries for the totally amazing Lolly Badcock?

Got girl girl traffic?

She can convert that.

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Got Fetish/BDSM/Strap on traffic?

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Smoking?

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Hardcore or Anal?

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Fisting?

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Get promo tools and link codes here.

stocktrader23 11-26-2010 11:27 AM
RIAA in the process of being sued for 'abuse of the legal system' for THEIR 30,000 'lawsuits'.

http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/n...nt-mobster.ars

I really hope you are talking about a different 30,000 because 99.9% of these people did NOT settle out of court.

RycEric 11-26-2010 12:02 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by DamianJ (Post 17730034)
Whilst you read about silly people thinking sending out quasi-blackmail letters is a good idea, why not pop up a couple of galleries for the totally amazing Lolly Badcock?

Got girl girl traffic?

She can convert that.

http://img.skitch.com/20101126-qdxp6...xp9hyypfqb.jpg

Got Fetish/BDSM/Strap on traffic?

She can convert that too.

http://img.skitch.com/20101126-ften3...9t32x5hb9j.jpg

Smoking?

Yup.

http://img.skitch.com/20101126-hi9yr...e5uif5h5ew.jpg

Hardcore or Anal?

Uh huh.

http://img.skitch.com/20101126-ktg9t...ufekr2xtbs.jpg

Fisting?

You fucking bet!

http://img.skitch.com/20101126-fw6ex...y1m8urjifk.jpg

etc

etc

You get the idea. From hardcore to solo, Lolly will make you more money than reading Paul Markham talk out of his arse. Fact.

Get promo tools and link codes here.
I bet that could be done. I'm just not sure if the ISP abuse sects would go along with or consider it spamming. We're testing, something along the lines of this, soon. I know it's been done before... not the pics.. but a referral link to a dvd or join page on the infringement notice. The company (who did this before) went BK and their shareholders sued them.. oh wait.. they opened up again under another brand this last month :winkwink:

Nice pics in any event :pimp

Paul Markham 11-26-2010 03:47 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by DamianJ (Post 17729938)
No you can't.

You post saying I live in a rented hovel.
You post saying I am a magician.

And I don't care about either of those things.

That's it.

That really isn't anywhere near as good as you get.

Not even the same ballpark.

But it's sweet you try. Keeps you off the streets.

xoxox
You missed me saying your marketing idea was crap and you can't even do a good job marketing yourself.

gideongallery 11-27-2010 01:40 AM
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Originally Posted by Paul Markham (Post 17730556)
You missed me saying your marketing idea was crap and you can't even do a good job marketing yourself.
so why don't you take him up on his challenge

if his marketing is such crap you should be able to design a landing page that outsells him.

Paul Markham 11-27-2010 01:44 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by gideongallery (Post 17731212)
so why don't you take him up on his challenge

if his marketing is such crap you should be able to design a landing page that outsells him.
Knowing a marketing idea is crap and designing a page are two different things. But I don§t expect you to understand that.

It would be like me challenging Damian to a contest of who can shoot the best content. Pointless and proves nothing.

gideongallery 11-27-2010 02:09 AM
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Originally Posted by Paul Markham (Post 17731213)
Knowing a marketing idea is crap and designing a page are two different things. But I don§t expect you to understand that.
wtf are you talking about
designing a landing page that sells is all about marketing.

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It would be like me challenging Damian to a contest of who can shoot the best content. Pointless and proves nothing.
no it not because your calling out his marketing skills

if he said your content total crap and he could do a better job then it would be equal.

as long as you keep calling him a crap marketer then challenging you to a marketing competition is just calling you on your shit old man.


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