Just because you don't understand what it means doesn't mean that it doesn't apply to me. If you had a few more brain cells remaining you might have been able to grasp it.

You're a highschool burnout...talk about being a dork.

Give it up, people. You can't ever win an argument with a religious person. They replace science with belief and mostly wrong, loose correlations, and call it facts.

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Awesome dude.

There is definitely NOT a santa claus - the case for a "GOD" is just as weak.

Fuck that, I'm Albertan. I dropped out of highschool to drill for oil. DRILL BABY DRILL.

What the fuck are you babbling about? Energy is energy, astounding fucking breakthrough. Comparing energy to an element like oxygen or carbon, makes no sense. An element alone powers nothing without energy. Drawing reference to your AC power supply makes no sense either. It's merely a form of energy transfer. Energy is what it is, energy. That is that. But what exactly is that? Why is it here? If energy cannot be created nor destroyed, where did it come from? When you start looking ito science's theories, things start riding on faith just about as much as claiming that energy source is a godly deity. The whole big bang. Something from nothing. Why not just say God did it? Makes about as much sense in reality.
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When it comes down to it, science can give it's little spiel on energy, but it still doesn't really know anything about it aside from how it acts and reacts. Everything we "know" about creation and the source of the universe is 100% theory.

My only reference to energy was stating that there is a power out there beyond our understanding, and maybe all that power boils down to is energy as we know it from science, which is still pretty much unexplainable. That is until we crush science as we know it and prove the first law of thermodynamics wrong, by learning to create energy out of nothing.

I'm not trying to rename energy, or cite energy as a God-figure, you're continuously pumping words into my mouth, and reading shit to fit whatever your argument is. I get nothing from trying to label a higher power, because I don't try to label a higher power. Have you read and comprehended a single fucking word I've typed? No. Why? because all you do is spout whatever bullshit you need to support your "there is no God" belief. So tell me, what do you get from so adamantly stating that there is no higher power to be named, when you don't know either?

You end your argument with "so what?" EXACTLY! So fucking what? Who cares either fucking way? There is no possibility to know. Maybe we don't have any proof of God because he's forsaken his creation and does give a fuck to pay any attention to us. Maybe there just isn't one and everything exists randomly with zero true meaning at all. No one will ever fucking know. Arguing either side of the argument makes you an idiot...

Might as well, you clearly don't know what you believe yourself... :2 cents:

so was i. u of a baby.

I lived on Whyte for 2 years, the only time I spent on campus was wandering around high on shrooms. For some reason I always wanted to go wandering campus when I was eating mushies. Lots of shit to trip out on around there. Loved trying to catch jackrabbits. Fuck are there a lot of rabbits on campus, they're everywhere...

I hear you guys are gonna get fucking puked on out in Fernie today. 20cm?

Are you religious? You follow Judaism? It's ok to stake a claim to your faith... You are a product of the molding and shaping done to your mind when you were young and impressionable. But you won't find much comfort fighting with people on a porn blog about it... You know, I have a lot of Jewish friends and here is the cool thing about Jews - they like the structure and the traditions and the warm embrace of their religious communities, but unlike Christians and Muslims, many of them know that their religion and all religions are most likely total bullshit. Jews like religion, but they are open to science and they can adapt to science... Sounds like you feel this way yes?

But the argument that "you can't prove there isn't a god" is bogus - science is getting incredibly close to understanding the circumstances with which life sprang forth on this planet - all the building blocks of life are found in the icy comets that crashed into the earth in abundance during the formation of our solar system. The conditions and the mechanisms that allowed natural selection to occur and life forms to become more complex over time are well understood.

ALL the religions have wildly incorrect and laughable origin-of-life theories, they are now proven false by science - if you don't believe that, then you don't believe in your car, or the computer you are reading this on.

i lived on whyte for around 5 years (you remember that converted hospital they made into lofts? that's were i moved there when my company was around a year old or so). yeah, u of a is an interesting place lol. my brother lived in hub for 6 years (history degree, then masters), we got into all kinds of hijinks over the years.

also, my first beer in a bar (i was 16), was at room at the top. we got into the underground tunnels once. endless trouble with security douches. have you ever been in the science building? the wierdest building on campus. hallways that lead no where, etc. that where i did most of my labs. holy rambling post batman. i miss those days.

yeah we got 18 cm yesterday, 22 cm today, mountain officially opens on Dec 4.

added you to icq. have some questions for you

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Overstatement of the year... We have some new theories... The nice advantage science has over religion is that the scientific community is willing to accept new theories. When a theory is proven wrong, they can accept that and write it off. Religion can't/won't do that. Doesn't change the fact that it's mostly theory. People throw so much faith at scientific theory. There is still so much we have no clue about, just look at NASA's announcement today. Everything we "knew" about life has changed again.

I'm not a religious person, and if I had to choose a side I'd lean towards the argument for atheism, but I've realized that Atheists are almost as flawed in their argument and theists. I do believe there are forces beyond our comprehension that are driving existence, I just don't think they come in the form of the Gods that religion has taught. I don't believe there is a differentiation between good or evil, and I don't believe there is any cosmic battle between the two. I'm not going to rule out the possibility though.

If I had to give anyone credit for getting "religion" right, it would be the old indigenous pagan type followings who worshiped the earth they lived on. They still looked towards spirits and all that shit, but at least their prayer was pointed in the right direction. They essentially worshiped the building blocks of life that the earth provided them.

well said... you're a smart cat

Atherists are soooooooooooooo cool... :thumbsup

Awww, burnout learned a new phrase. That's cute. It's almost like he's trying to think. Scroll back and see who started with the personal attacks.

The dictionary isn't exactly wrong but it lacks a detailed explanation.

I know. You are one by the way.

I also believe that your kids are a hell of a lot smarter than you and when they see you make a stupid statement like that, they feel embarrassed that "survival of the fittest" doesn't apply to them or any of your offspring.:1orglaugh

agnostic atheist... :2 cents: