I love when people use that quote.

#1. What does it have to do with the price of tea in China? It has zero to do with the subject.

#2. You think because MC said it, it must be true? :1orglaugh

thanks for posting baddog very informative as usual. I will be giving you a holler so we can get some more traffic :)

SEO isn't as much about improving the amount of traffic as it is the quality.

Can you answer my question please. Thank you.

Good work. Well written. :thumbsup

Matt Cutts is the man, like he says it makes no difference what so ever...

http://www.mattcutts.com/blog/myth-b...-ip-addresses/

Not exactly. Again, this is why I said do not draw attention to yourself by unnatural actions.

I am sorry, we are not here for Page Rank, we are here for SERPS.

Your article describes using sites on different IP addresses to link to each other. "SEO Hosting".

The quote from Matt Cutts clearly states "Google handles virtually hosted domains and their links just the same as domains on unique IP addresses"

It has everything to do with the subject.

Matt Cutts is head of Google's Webspam team, I really doubt he'd go out and spread some bullshit. Whereas you clearly have a vested interest in SEO hosting.

matt cutts does spread some "fake info" every now and then to combat black hat

but going from that to baddog saying "if mc said that it must be true?" no no, if baddog said that then it must be true. roflcopter @ seo hosting


i sale tgp hosting
tube hosting
linklist hosting
and anything you wanna name it hosting, but that plan costs 3x.
oh and COLD ice too. its the shiznit.

I am sorry, when have I EVER suggested virtual hosting won't work? Shared server, dedicated IP = good thing. Shared server, shared IP, not so much. If you are only interested in PR, I guess it would suffice.

As far as Cutts is concerned, you do realize that G wants zero SEO.

If you are going to quote people, how about the godfather of SEO?

50 seo hosting for sell cheapz!

He's wrong about the "host crowding" all the time .. since he started offering his service.

"For several years Google has used something called ?host crowding,? which means that Google will show up to two results from each hostname/subdomain of a domain name. That approach works very well to show 1-2 results from a subdomain..."

Your terminology is a little off there.

"Virtual hosting is a method for hosting multiple domain names on a computer using a single IP address."

I wasn't talking about virtual private servers.

And he is talking about Page Rank. I will always recommend a dedicated IP over a shared any day of the week. I will also listen to people like Bruce Clay, who will INSIST that you host your site on a dedicated IP or they will not accept you as a client.

If you ask 10 different SEO's the same question you will get 10 answers. Again, I am not trying to sell you. You go with what works for you. :2 cents:

The rules of these threads were clear

http://www.gofuckyourself.com/showthread.php?t=950712

THE RULES:
1) Trolling in GFY Educational Threads will be grounds for immediate banning for one week.

2) Using the GFY Educational threads as a platform to Spam will be removed and a warning issued.


I was not fucking around with these. You are banned till next week. You can contact me at that time for unbanning.

Great post, BD

How many actual, real, SEO webmasters do you see using similar services, and what qualifies the O.P as an authority worthy of educating anyone on Search Engine Optimization? This isn't trolling, this is a serious question. Chosing this as a debut topic for the new 'area' was maybe a bad idea, its fairly controversial.

There is no way to prove any of these claims, and no direct evidence the O.P can provide to back any of it up. Its all marketing hype.

Saying not to spam them (in this case) is a little bizarre for me, since this whole post is a blatant spam for his own services, which many SEO webmasters do not use to begin with. I've been gaming google for 6 years, and have a pretty lengthy, and surprisingly thorough contact list. Guess how many of them use services like this? Zero of them. Guess how many SEO noobs ask about it and how important it is? Almost all of them.

What am I missing here? I was excited to see some quality posts for this new forum. If this is the 'grand debut', it certainly has crippled my excitement.

'If you ask 10 SEO's they will all say different" another default snakeoil response, ask 10 SEO's who actually have a clue, and have actual sites that rank, THEN SEE WHAT THEY SAY.

This is all smoke and mirrors, and if not, it should be pretty clear for the OP to produce examples or links showing how this information is actually is factual (which a lot of is just the opposite, or twisted versions of the facts, already pointed out many times earlier). Maybe an educational post should not be made by someone biased (monetarily) about the value of the information. I mean, he plans to profit off people believing this. It is NOT unbiased, factual information no matter how you slice it.

He may or may not be fairly educated at hosting, but his SEO results, and rankings are very much a question to most posters here, I think there needs to be some standard for such 'educational' posts.

Baddog, as much as I'd like to take a poke, this isn't really meant to be. I'm speaking more to the issue of seo hosting, and many of its myths, that coincidentally, play strong into your businesses success.

If I'm trolling and this is breaking the rules, guess I'll see you all in a week or two, but I would think that constructive discussion on these threads should be encouraged and would add to the value of each one of them.

anyone who knows anything about seo knows that baddog is a snakesoil salesman. he has yet to show any decent serp on a term with any decent traffic.

Maybe before taking off on your rant you should learn to pay attention to what is BOLD in my post. Oracle Porn was banned for trolling this thread, not spamming. Therefore, he is banned for one week. We set the rules, they are not for debate.

Beyond that, you are certainly welcome to your opinion. But keep the debate constructive and on topic. In many cases people will end up learning far more in the long run through a debate. If you want to bring your knowledge to the table. We more than welcome that, and as stated in our announcement thread please contact us and we would love to have more and more people bringing their knowledge to the table.

Lastly, this is not the first of these posts. As stated in our announcement thread, this series began on February 1st. You can find the first of the series in the GFY Educational series forum section.

interesting spam.

lol seo hosting

I think you're missing the point. I don't think Jdoughs was trying to defend Oracle Porn in any way, more showing a slight irony in the set rules and their application to posts of 'educational threads' and responses therein. Of course, the suggestion that baddog's level of spamage is anything close to that of Oracle Porn's level of trolling is slightly fallacious, yet the point still stands and adds to his overall argument.

Whats your take on different DCs, DC location, hostnames/reverse DNSs and multiple/virtual nameservers Baddog?

Great post Baddog - thanks for the knowledge and a bump.

Regarding 3% on dedicated IP preference in SERPs, assuming stated quote is true, what would be logical explanation for providing preference to dedicated IPs over shared majority? more reliable, trusted or even significant than the other? What's your take on this?

Thanks Baddog!

seo is dead

Great read thanks for posting it :)

Different C class hosting is just one part of creating a network if you're trying to game the search engines.

Other considerations people should think about:

Whois details - are you going to fake 50 different sets?

Registrars - how many different ones are you going to use?

Are you using the same site generator / template on multiple sites?

Are you leaving any kind of common footprint whatsoever across your network?

I wouldn't be surprised at all if in the next year or so we see google putting sites hosted on these supposed "SEO Hosting" plans increasingly put under the microscope, and it will go down as yet another "potential spam" factor.

There's a reason I host several hundred sites on over a dozen different hosting companies, and across a variety of different registrars. Most people who have large networks that I know do the same.

Good luck.

gotta love gfy.

i get trolled by PleasurePays attacking my newborn child and wife and nothing happens. But post in a baddog thread and you get banned. what about the rules on personal attacks on family members, and children especially????

amazing.

my apologies for bringing this in your thread BD, ignore it from here out, but I couldnt pass that up. considerer it a free bump.

Eric I brought it to your attention previously because you were ther person who UNBANNED pleasurepays after he was banned originally for trolling me and making weird pedo accusations about me and my family. Pedo accusations should never be taken lightly and he was unabnned by you without any debate over his actions.

You unbanned him and he started going after my kid and wife now.

anyway, just see this shit as ironic.

good post, BadDog. As usual!

wow, Eric is back? That's awesome news! (I have been away for the last few weeks, so I didn't know)

baddog you're trying to explain astrophysics to winos... good luck with that ;)

i remember we were kickin it outside the palms last month and that new cat was like 'all hostings the same right so why is your seo shit any different'

Lots of haters in this thread, nice article.

If you dicks respond like this to anyone that is kind enough to share some information, why should anyone bother giving out the goods. Way to go idiots, go fuck yourself.

I personally would prefer not have a few douchebags ruin the educational series for those who want to learn, plenty of people do appreciate the effort and will support the contributors.

Please post if you agree with this so that the jerkoffs that have only negativity to spread can be outnumbered and proceed to fuck off.

Why is it that when members of this industry share info and give their insights and opinions, everyone wants to label it as spam? I haven't seen Baddog try to sell his services to anyone in this thread. In fact, he clearly said he is NOT intending to do that.

For the record, we invited Baddog to participate and share his expertise on this topic. He did not beat down our door to try to spam his product.

Please utilize this series to take away new knowledge and apply it where possible to increase your bottom line. Healthy debate is ENCOURAGED - if everyone agrees and high fives each other, we aren't making progress. But trolling and attacking the topic and the author is not acceptable.

OMFG. Isnt that the pimp with $280 checking account.
You're trying way too hard kid. Kiking it outside.. new bird.. Where you on a radar before march 2009?
Give this dude a "bro club prospect" patch. :1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

All QFT!