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DWB	12-14-2010 06:53 AM

Wikileaks - An insight into child porn (wow)

This is a VERY long read, but is an in depth look at how child porn started and where it is today. Fascinating information about how the child porn creeps are beating law enforcement these days.

Link: http://mirror.wikileaks.info/wiki/An...orn/index.html

Also a few shocking statements in there, like this one:

Quote:

Even Web sites that still exist, such as Met-Art.com bought productions in 2000 with 11-14 year old girls, and everything was billed through the very serious CCBill (this series are no longer at Met-Art Journal).

I know most of you retards won't read it, but those of you who do will probably be as shocked as I was about it all. God damn Russians. :mad:

iSpyCams

12-14-2010 07:07 AM

That article is really long. Interesting, but I was forced to skim.

seeandsee

12-14-2010 07:10 AM

In before the storm!

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...Texas-1935.png

CaptainHowdy

12-14-2010 07:11 AM

Reading..........

DWB	12-14-2010 07:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by seeandsee (Post 17772341)

In before the storm!

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...Texas-1935.png

My God, is that a real photo? That is terrifying!

Reminds me of "The Nothing" in The Never Ending Story.

Tjeezers

12-14-2010 07:12 AM

long read
but very informative

thank u for the share

DWB	12-14-2010 07:19 AM

Amazing to think that just 10 years ago such content was somewhat accepted, at least from a hosting / billing point of view. Times change.

I wonder what Banks are still working with them today, assuming that operation is even still in running.

Caligari

12-14-2010 07:23 AM

Quote:

A few years ago there were these kinds of problems with the magazine "Seventeen" in the Netherlands. When the Internet emerged, the company produced entirely legal pornography with young people aged 16. As long as this was sold in the Netherlands, it was no problem. But with the advent of the Internet Seventeen wanted to sell the pictures and videos on the internet as well. It was not long until it hit the headlines everywhere for "child pornography", especially in the USA. This became a huge political pressure on the Dutch authorities.

Why i never touched that shit with a ten foot pole, you're playing with fire.
I mean for fuckssakes its called Seventeen!

Startling report, wow this world is fucked up.

Ethersync

12-14-2010 07:23 AM

Great article. I had no idea that so much CP content was hosted in Germany. I have friends from Western Europe who have shot models in Russia and Ukraine and told me some truly crazy stories about mothers and fathers literally begging them to shoot content with their very underage daughters because they needed the money. That Russians and Ukrainians are so involved does not surprise me at all. The end of the article where he talks about how to fix the problem is especially interesting.

CaptainHowdy

12-14-2010 07:44 AM

Nothing really "new", isn't it??

DWB	12-14-2010 07:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CaptainHowdy (Post 17772408)

Nothing really "new", isn't it??

I guess that would depend on if you're into online child porn or not. :upsidedow

marketsmart

12-14-2010 08:03 AM

if the punishment for producing or having more than 20 pictures or videos of child porn was death, it wouldnt take long for the demand to wean. at least in the US..

.

DWB	12-14-2010 08:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by marketsmart (Post 17772476)

if the punishment for producing or having more than 20 pictures or videos of child porn was death, it wouldnt take long for the demand to wean. at least in the US..

.

So long as they could PROVE without a shadow of a doubt that those 20 pics are yours, I totally agree with you.

J. Falcon

12-14-2010 08:21 AM

That was a very interesting article.

spazlabz

12-14-2010 08:24 AM

I read the whole thing, I am a slow thorough reader so it took me some time. There are a lot of points in it that I disagree with but I cannot fault his argument except this one;

Quote:

The possession of child pornography should be decriminalized, and only its production and distribution should remain a criminal offense. Physical violence against a person, no matter what age, should be drastically and severely punished.

If you allow for possession of this type of content then you are encouraging the production of it. If someone can financially gain from it with the end user facing no repercussions, then its availability would become even more rampant. The writer full explains how the distributors are beating the governments.

J. Falcon

12-14-2010 08:38 AM

Is Landslide Productions really innocent like this guy says?

spazlabz

12-14-2010 08:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by J. Falcon (Post 17772591)

Is Landslide Productions really innocent like this guy says?

the writer (Mr X) really did not seem to have anything to gain for pointing it out and I see no reason to not believe that portion of the article at all. It makes sense with the witch hunts that have been going on for years

Angry Jew Cat - Banned for Life

12-14-2010 08:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by spazlabz (Post 17772554)

I read the whole thing, I am a slow thorough reader so it took me some time. There are a lot of points in it that I disagree with but I cannot fault his argument except this one;

If you allow for possession of this type of content then you are encouraging the production of it. If someone can financially gain from it with the end user facing no repercussions, then its availability would become even more rampant. The writer full explains how the distributors are beating the governments.

you're right, it doesn't make any sense. it's exactly the same as the decriminalization of marijuana idea. it doesn't do anything to change anything, at all. it's either legal or illegal, how the fuck do you halfway it?

interestig article though, particularly the points on how they distribute.

just a punk

12-14-2010 08:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DirtyWhiteBoy (Post 17772318)

Quote:

I know most of you retards won't read it, but those of you who do will probably be as shocked as I was about it all. God damn Russians. :mad:

Met-Art are Russians? Really? :eek7

Machete_

12-14-2010 08:46 AM

Quote:

LOL

like that's news

DamianJ

12-14-2010 08:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by marketsmart (Post 17772476)

if the punishment for producing or having more than 20 pictures or videos of child porn was death, it wouldnt take long for the demand to wean. at least in the US..

.

True. Because having the death penalty has totally stopped all serious crime in America.

http://www.deathpenaltyinfo.org/dete...r-murder-rates

Oh no, my bad, having the death penalty actually INCREASES the murder rate.

Genius.

Barry-xlovecam

12-14-2010 09:07 AM

To me what the article illustrates; is that many of the prosecutions of simple possessors of CP may be cases of infected zombie computers that are part of the botnet that is used for the dissemination of CP.

Unfortunately, law enforcement is technically ill equipped to shut down and prosecute the purveyors and distributors of CP.

There is also the problem of different laws regarding the age of majority. There needs to be an international treaty setting the legal age for recorded sexual images. (I would suggest this to be 18-years-of-age).

Law enforcement must work on stopping the distribution of CP rather than on doling out punishment to its end user. The "War on Drugs" is an example NOT to follow as it has proved ineffective.

DWB	12-14-2010 09:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cyberxxx (Post 17772604)

Met-Art are Russians? Really? :eek7

I don't know. Are they?

The Duck

12-14-2010 09:11 AM

Very interesting read, thanks.

mineistaken

12-14-2010 09:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Caligari (Post 17772366)

Why i never touched that shit with a ten foot pole, you're playing with fire.
I mean for fuckssakes its called Seventeen!

Startling report, wow this world is fucked up.

But they say it was published in Netherlands and from the article it sounds like they are iplying that 16 is legal age there

spazlabz

12-14-2010 09:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mineistaken (Post 17772684)

But they say it was published in Netherlands and from the article it sounds like they are iplying that 16 is legal age there

was the legal age there

Paul Markham

12-14-2010 09:21 AM

Half way through reading it and need a break. Here's my initial thoughts.

When you scream about 2247 being too strict, remember this article.

grumpy

12-14-2010 09:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by marketsmart (Post 17772476)

if the punishment for producing or having more than 20 pictures or videos of child porn was death, it wouldnt take long for the demand to wean. at least in the US..

.

way of, it goes underground, when there is demand there are suppliers

grumpy

12-14-2010 09:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by spazlabz (Post 17772689)

was the legal age there

its 16 8chrs

grumpy

12-14-2010 10:01 AM

i see people around here still buying traffic from sites that promote cp ( they call it nudist pics )

Caligari

12-14-2010 10:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mineistaken (Post 17772684)

But they say it was published in Netherlands and from the article it sounds like they are iplying that 16 is legal age there

yes thats great, tell that to a U.S. judge or any other country where under 18 is illegal for adult content.
the name Seventeen implies the girls are 17, this is jail time in the U.S. and elsewhere.

spazlabz

12-14-2010 11:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by grumpy (Post 17772786)

its 16 8chrs

is that 16 to have sex or 16 to be in porn?

Davy	12-14-2010 11:09 AM

The article is rather old. Who knows what people are up to nowadays.

Roald

12-14-2010 11:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by spazlabz (Post 17772958)

is that 16 to have sex or 16 to be in porn?

16 to have sex 18 to be in porn as far as I know.

just a punk

12-14-2010 11:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DirtyWhiteBoy (Post 17772667)

I don't know. Are they?

I don't know too. But everything that was quoted in your post was not a secret many years ago. At least I heard it in 2001. Actually this is why I never had an affiliate account at any of mentioned there affiliate programs. I wasn't and idiot and I knew they sell great but I decided to be away from that money :2 cents:

Roald

12-14-2010 11:39 AM

Reading this article makes me think the writer is into the "art" kind of sites.

MikoMike

12-14-2010 11:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DirtyWhiteBoy (Post 17772667)

I don't know. Are they?

Mer-Art based in LA.

just a punk

12-14-2010 11:44 AM

Please don't ask me where the mentioned billing system is based too. I bet also not in Russia. This is why I don't statements like "God damn Russians".

INDY500DRIVER

12-14-2010 11:48 AM

link isnt working, anybody have a mirror?

spazlabz

12-14-2010 11:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Roald (Post 17772982)

16 to have sex 18 to be in porn as far as I know.

Thanks Roald :thumbsup That is how I understand it as well

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