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Xer0 01-09-2011 07:58 AM

Some people have no taste...
 
I'll be quick with this story.

About a year ago today, I offered to help out this adult model with her website for FREE.
She gave me a direction and within 3 days I had the preview section of her site all worked out and online.

The spec was simple - help her design and build a new site for FREE.

This is the preview I made:

http://www.purephat.net/preview/index.html

http://www.purephat.net/preview/index_b.html

This is her existing site - which she designed and built:

http://sexykrisl.com/

Is it me, or did she make the wrong choice with her current site?

Working with her, really made me think twice about doing anything for FREE. As a developer and designer working at a top agency - I realise that fighting with clients is unavoidable - but it really grates me when someone can't take advice when all the work being done is for FREE.

candyflip 01-09-2011 08:01 AM

What she should have done was hire a professional.

~Ray 01-09-2011 08:03 AM

they both could use a bit of modernizing.. but for free, yours was ok.

Xer0 01-09-2011 08:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ~Ray (Post 17830578)
they both could use a bit of modernizing.. but for free, yours was ok.

Well that's the funny thing, she was determined to have a similar looking site to the one she already had. Some of the design choices were forced onto the design and build.

You can see that my examples have been influenced by her taste.

signupdamnit 01-09-2011 08:15 AM

It's her site and her choice. As long as she thanked you for your help and time without leading you on about things I can't see why you would be mad.

dazzling 01-09-2011 08:18 AM

That is one ugly looking woman. I cant believe anyone would waste money to join her website to look at her.

Xer0 01-09-2011 08:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by candyflip (Post 17830577)
What she should have done was hire a professional.

For 2 hrs a day over 3 days... I don't think I did too bad... considering it was for FREE.
And I am a professional FYI.

I'd love to see what you can to do without even trying buddy ;-)

ottopottomouse 01-09-2011 08:22 AM

Site is hopeless.

Click photos / videos / free tour and unless you realise you need to scroll down the page doesn't appear to change.

candyflip 01-09-2011 08:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Xer0 (Post 17830591)
For 2 hrs a day over 3 days... I don't think I did too bad... considering it was for FREE.
And I am a professional FYI.

I'd love to see what you can to do without even trying buddy ;-)

So you're saying you were helping, but didn't really try? Ok, buddy. :1orglaugh

I stopped doing my own design stuff a few years back and now have 2 people on staff who handle it all for me.

That said, I would still have no problem putting together something that might actually stand a chance of converting surfers in 2010.

Emil 01-09-2011 08:24 AM

I think her design looks better than yours, but that's just me.

Xer0 01-09-2011 08:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by signupdamnit (Post 17830588)
It's her site and her choice. As long as she thanked you for your help and time without leading you on about things I can't see why you would be mad.

Right you are.
And this happened a year ago. It was all very friendly.

The previews I made were a compromise for her requirements and taste. It's annoying when you know that the site could have been so much better.

But one positive thing came out of it.
It was just fun doing some porn work - rather than big name brands with a team of 20 or so.

Xer0 01-09-2011 08:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by candyflip (Post 17830597)
So you're saying you were helping, but didn't really try? Ok, buddy. :1orglaugh

I stopped doing my own design stuff a few years back and now have 2 people on staff who handle it all for me.

That said, I would still have no problem putting together something that might actually stand a chance of converting surfers in 2010.

I don't know about you... At 2 hrs a day for 3 days isn't really working.
Still - would love to see your sites ;-)

I might learn a thing or 2.

Supz 01-09-2011 09:04 AM

They both look about a decade old.

Xer0 01-09-2011 09:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Supz (Post 17830672)
They both look about a decade old.

Yeah - like your site.

djroof 01-09-2011 09:09 AM

the girl is sexy ;) that's all

Jack Sparrow 01-09-2011 09:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Xer0 (Post 17830615)
I don't know about you... At 2 hrs a day for 3 days isn't really working.
Still - would love to see your sites ;-)

I might learn a thing or 2.

I dont think anyone knows what sites he is running.

Xer0 01-09-2011 09:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jack Sparrow (Post 17830694)
I dont think anyone knows what sites he is running.

Yeah - looking at the trail of messages he leaves at other topics - he seems to think he's a wise cracking guy ;-)

He just says stuff, for shits and giggles.

Scott McD 01-09-2011 09:21 AM

Who else thought this thread was gonna be about Steve Lightspeed ??

Hank_Heartland 01-09-2011 09:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Scott McD (Post 17830701)
Who else thought this thread was gonna be about Steve Lightspeed ??

Me:1orglaugh

Davy 01-09-2011 01:09 PM

If I had an insane amount of money, I'd get myself a pink Ferrari. Just because.

MetaMan 01-09-2011 01:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Xer0 (Post 17830572)
As a developer and designer working at a top agency

Sure buddy! :1orglaugh

Keep telling yourself that. Your shit sucks!

The Admiral 01-09-2011 01:14 PM

Some peoples taste is all in their mouth.

spazlabz 01-09-2011 01:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hank_Heartland (Post 17830737)
Me:1orglaugh

+1 :1orglaugh

djroof 01-09-2011 01:52 PM

any info for the girl ;) anyone had tried her program?

loreen 01-09-2011 02:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Scott McD (Post 17830701)
Who else thought this thread was gonna be about Steve Lightspeed ??

Me :)

But, about the sites, I really like hers better. It's more put together, more "blended".

GatorB 01-09-2011 02:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Supz (Post 17830672)
They both look about a decade old.

That really doesn't matter. Surfers care about CONTENT. Now that beig said the JOIN link is more obvious to me on the actual site. In the end its about getting the surfer to click JOIN. Now all the pink on the actual site is a bit annoying. Might make me click out of there. The background on Xer0's attempt reminds me of wallpaper at grandmas house. Not an image I want in my mind when I want to whack off. Both could use a bit of improvement

MetaMan 01-09-2011 02:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GatorB (Post 17831372)
That really doesn't matter. Surfers care about CONTENT.

Yes it DOES MATTER. Anyone who says design doesnt matter has 0 clue wtf they are talking about.

GatorB 01-09-2011 02:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MetaMan (Post 17831378)
Yes it DOES MATTER. Anyone who says design doesnt matter has 0 clue wtf they are talking about.

Show me a site that has great design but does not give the surfer what he wants and I show you a site that will not be successful.

MetaMan 01-09-2011 02:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GatorB (Post 17831386)
Show me a site that has great design but does not give the surfer what he wants and I show you a site that will not be successful.

where did i say content doesnt matter? they go hand and hand.

Stupid comment on your part.

You can have a great design with shitty content and still sell it. But then you have to have filler content like text to make up for the difference.


Surfers DO care about design. A proper design can increase conversions by insane amounts. A proper design displays that content in a professional manner that makes it sell.

MetaMan 01-09-2011 02:27 PM

Especially when accepting credit cards. The internet is pure image and what you see. When they see a professional base surfers are more likely to attach trusting value to the website.

FlexxAeon 01-09-2011 02:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MetaMan (Post 17831417)
Especially when accepting credit cards. The internet is pure image and what you see. When they see a professional base surfers are more likely to attach trusting value to the website.

:thumbsup

irwin99 01-09-2011 02:29 PM

were you trying to bang her or something?

SmokeyTheBear 01-09-2011 02:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GatorB (Post 17831386)
Show me a site that has great design but does not give the surfer what he wants and I show you a site that will not be successful.

show me a site with great design and no content and ill show you a site with no content and bad design that does shittier :) design does matter. have 2 of anything and package one in a better design and it will sell better.

actually there are a few instances where this may not be true. if you are selling old fashioned hand made chairs in a new plastic packaging , might be better to have hand labels with no packaging.. or organic foods etc where the goal is less waste

The Heron 01-09-2011 02:32 PM

She got big fake tits, of course she has no taste

Angry Jew Cat - Banned for Life 01-09-2011 02:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by irwin99 (Post 17831427)
were you trying to bang her or something?

http://captionsearch.com/pix/vaib62pyrx.jpg

SmokeyTheBear 01-09-2011 02:35 PM

i like your design better but perhaps she felt her amateur design gave more of an amateur look to the site and thus grab a diff crowd.

Xer0 01-09-2011 02:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MetaMan (Post 17831240)
Sure buddy! :1orglaugh

Keep telling yourself that. Your shit sucks!


lol, another wise guy.
Funny, like I said - the 'PREVIEW' took me 6 hours to prepare over 3 days in total.

I'd like to see your shit.

I might learn something... maybe not :P

Xer0 01-09-2011 02:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by irwin99 (Post 17831427)
were you trying to bang her or something?

Nah - I was just doing it for the hell of it.

Xer0 01-09-2011 02:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MetaMan (Post 17831240)
Sure buddy! :1orglaugh

Keep telling yourself that. Your shit sucks!


lol - How do you know i'm not?
I'd love to know which agencies you've worked for... that's none porn related.

OH... and I wouldn't mind seeing your shit.

BTW - judging by all your other posts in other topics... your a tad immature and seem to suffer from anger issues.
Did your mom get raped by a mad baboon with aids!?

http://icanhascheezburger.files.word...butt-heart.jpg

Daddy loves you! :P

GatorB 01-09-2011 03:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MetaMan (Post 17831417)
Especially when accepting credit cards. The internet is pure image and what you see. When they see a professional base surfers are more likely to attach trusting value to the website.

Then when they don't get what they want prompty chargeback their credit card.


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